---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/18/16: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:55 AM - 912ULS to 914? (William Bliss) 2. 12:57 AM - Re: Fuel vent (Remi Guerner) 3. 02:13 AM - Re: 912ULS to 914? (jonathanmilbank) 4. 02:44 AM - Re: 912ULS to =?UTF-8?Q?=39=31=34=3F? (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 5. 11:23 AM - Re: 912ULS to 914? (graeme bird) 6. 12:47 PM - Re: Fuselage (Roland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:55:43 AM PST US From: William Bliss Subject: Europa-List: 912ULS to 914? Dear All I am struggling to get out of a 450m grass strip 2 persons and full fuel (no baggage). Has anyone got experience of the improvement in take off performance with the Rotax 914 over the 912ULS? I expect this has been debated before but I cannot find a way to search the matronics website for it. Thanks William Bliss G-WUFF Mono Classic XS firewall forwards. 912ULS, Woodcomp SR3000, Smartcontroller ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:38 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fuel vent From: "Remi Guerner" Jerry, That is interesting. Thanks for sharing. I have always considered a fuel vent facing forward was not a safe enough solution, as water and dirt (even bugs!) may enter in flight, being pushed by the airflow. Therefore I have added a second vent which exits vertically at the bottom of the fuselage. The two vents are connected with a tee. Additionally, I have covered the top vent with a stainless steel screen. The bottom vent is also convenient when filling the tank as it allows excess fuel to flow out before the cobra is filled to the top. Remi F-PGKL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460552#460552 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:13:41 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: 912ULS to 914? From: "jonathanmilbank" Hi William, I have experience with the 912UL, the 912ULS as now fitted to my aircraft and some time in a friend's Europa with the 914, which I flew for the initial issue of its permit and subsequently. Subjectively I can assure you that the extra 15 horses in the 914, available for take-off for a short period, are very noticeable and possibly shortening the run by something like 10%. But I wouldn't want the 914 for my aircraft, partly because it's much heavier and also there are questions in my mind about its reliability. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460556#460556 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:44:05 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: 912ULS to =?UTF-8?Q?=39=31=34=3F? William, I have never had any trouble operating from a variety of 400m strips with my XS/914/WoodcompSR2000 or SR3000W combination. There is also a considerable benefit if you want to fly at altitude as it gets more efficient the higher you go effectively. As to reliability the older versions had a tendency for the waste gate to stick if you used Avgas in particular, but this was not too serious - it effectively left you with a fixed manifold pressure, and a 30min job in unsticking it. I have not had any other reliability issues with mine in over 1000hrs. Having said all that I am not sure that I wouldn't go for a 915IS if starting again. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ On 2016-09-18 08:52, William Bliss wrote: > > Dear All > I am struggling to get out of a 450m grass strip 2 persons and full fuel (no baggage). > Has anyone got experience of the improvement in take off performance with the Rotax 914 over the 912ULS? > I expect this has been debated before but I cannot find a way to search the matronics website for it. > Thanks > William Bliss G-WUFF > Mono Classic XS firewall forwards. 912ULS, Woodcomp SR3000, Smartcontroller > Links: ------ [1] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [2] http://forums.matronics.com [3] http://wiki.matronics.com [4] http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:28 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: 912ULS to 914? From: "graeme bird" I have a similar set up to you and fly from a short strip, I seem to be unstuck in 200 Meters or less, are you sure your prop is setup to go fine enough? Do you have the wide blades? -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis ap, pflarm, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP 5, Aera500 & SD on Nexus, 250 hours & 4 years on the Mono, 880 total g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460571#460571 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:47:11 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fuselage From: "Roland" ....read about it in the new EF - sorry about that..... 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