---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/29/16: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:48 AM - Re: Replacement Battery,Artex 406 Emergency Locator Transmitter (Richard Lamprey) 2. 12:53 AM - Re: XS parts (Richard Lamprey) 3. 02:21 AM - Re: XS Firewall Forward Question (jonathanmilbank) 4. 02:41 AM - Re: XS Firewall Forward Question (Roland) 5. 02:45 AM - Re: Re: XS parts (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 6. 09:16 AM - Europa list Airmaster propeller (AUVRAY Michel) 7. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: XS Firewall Forward Question (Kingsley Hurst) 8. 03:47 PM - Re: Re: XS Firewall Forward Question (Kingsley Hurst) 9. 03:56 PM - Re: Re: XS Firewall Forward Question (Kingsley Hurst) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:18 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Replacement Battery,Artex 406 Emergency Locator Transmitter From: "Richard Lamprey" Thanks Alan, I checked out your link, and they have. Eye-wateringly expensive batteries, 300 Euro, for what they are. Puzzling why Light Aero cant bring in from Spruce Europe. Thanks again! Best Richard Classic monowheel, Kenya Home strip, take-off at 6000' asl, 30 degrees C, 912 UL 80hp, fixed pitch warp drive, its doing OK. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460817#460817 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:49 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: XS parts From: "Richard Lamprey" David, dare I ask what happened to G-XSDJ? I saw you with this aircraft many years ago at the PFA rally, was it Kemble? A very nice Europa. Richard, Monowheel, Kenya Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460818#460818 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:12 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: XS Firewall Forward Question From: "jonathanmilbank" Kingsley, While I'm not best qualified to give you an answer, I built an early Europa Classic kit UK#54. In the past 19 years it has given me and many others much enjoyment and to quote Bud Yerly's website " After his career in the Air Force, he began looking and found the Europa was the finest flying sport aircraft hands down, with good cruise and excellent economy." However there's one benefit I wish I could have in my Classic, which the XS offers and that is the engine mount with intermediate frame which moves the engine about 8" or 20cm forward. This facilitates installing the longer-bodied starter motor. Originally I had the excellent 80hp engine, but after changing undercarriage from mono to tri-gear, it became necessary to change from 80hp to 100hp to overcome the extra rolling resistance on grass caused by smaller wheels. Historically the 100hp 912ULS unit had starting difficulties and various measures were introduced to overcome these, including the longer starter motor. Thus far I've found that my 912ULS can be started without "kick-backs", but I would be happier if I could also have installed the longer starter. The Classic frame simply won't accommodate it! If you have the 80hp engine and it has the shorter starter, I would be surprised if you experience significant starting problems. I didn't. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460819#460819 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:41:35 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: XS Firewall Forward Question From: "Roland" Hi Kingsley, it you are considering the heavy duty starter, I can recommend this one http://www.silent-hektik.de/UL_912_Anlasser.htm It has 1KW and I installed it in my XS without problems. Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460820#460820 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:40 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: XS parts Hit a large bump on the notoriously rough strip on Lundy Island on take off but before I had flying speed . Came down on the front face of the next bump & fuselage crumpled just at front edge of thigh support. Very aggravating! Was my 6th time flying in there. David On 2016-09-29 08:53, Richard Lamprey wrote: > > David, dare I ask what happened to G-XSDJ? I saw you with this aircraft many years ago at the PFA rally, was it Kemble? A very nice Europa. > Richard, Monowheel, Kenya > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460818#460818 [1] > Links: ------ [1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460818#460818 [2] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [3] http://forums.matronics.com [4] http://wiki.matronics.com [5] http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:17 AM PST US From: AUVRAY Michel Subject: Europa-List: Europa list Airmaster propeller Hello all, I sell a Airmaster propellerAP332. AP332 N111 Dia. 1.65 m (65") Very good condition, 480 hours of flight. Maintenance every 100 hours TBO 2000 h Complete with constant speed regulator or manual. Take off position, climb,cruse, and feathering position. Original price 6,100 3,500 sold I can send pictures if you contact me Good evening Michel AUVRAY ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:49 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: XS Firewall Forward Question Jonathan, I appreciate the time you spent in replying thank you. You have answered my question in that the intermediate frame on the XS will accommodate the longer starter motor. A friend of mine accidentally ran his 912 (80 HP) without oil and ceased it so we are looking at the option of a 912S to replace it. I was concerned that the longer starter motor on the 912S might not fit so am relieved to know now that it will. Thanks again Kingsley -----Original Message----- From: jonathanmilbank Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:20 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: XS Firewall Forward Question Kingsley, While I'm not best qualified to give you an answer, I built an early Europa Classic kit UK#54. In the past 19 years it has given me and many others much enjoyment and to quote Bud Yerly's website " After his career in the Air Force, he began looking and found the Europa was the finest flying sport aircraft hands down, with good cruise and excellent economy." However there's one benefit I wish I could have in my Classic, which the XS offers and that is the engine mount with intermediate frame which moves the engine about 8" or 20cm forward. This facilitates installing the longer-bodied starter motor. Originally I had the excellent 80hp engine, but after changing undercarriage from mono to tri-gear, it became necessary to change from 80hp to 100hp to overcome the extra rolling resistance on grass caused by smaller wheels. Historically the 100hp 912ULS unit had starting difficulties and various measures were introduced to overcome these, including the longer starter motor. Thus far I've found that my 912ULS can be started without "kick-backs", but I would be happier if I could also have installed the longer starter. The Classic frame simply won't accommodate it! If you have the 80hp engine and it has the shorter starter, I would be surprised if you experience significant starting problems. I didn't. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:56 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: XS Firewall Forward Question "A friend of mine accidentally ran his 912 (80 HP) without oil and ceased it " Oops, I meant "siezed" not "ceased" . . . . . can't even blame auto correct! However, it certainly 'ceased' to run! K ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:06 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: XS Firewall Forward Question Thank you Roland. That's good to know should we ever be looking for a new starter only. Regards Kingsley -----Original Message----- From: Roland Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:41 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: XS Firewall Forward Question Hi Kingsley, it you are considering the heavy duty starter, I can recommend this one http://www.silent-hektik.de/UL_912_Anlasser.htm It has 1KW and I installed it in my XS without problems. 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