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1. 03:08 AM - Re: Re: oil tank auxiliary bracket (Rowland Carson)
2. 08:39 AM - Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new co (G-ODTW)
3. 08:53 AM - Door seals (William Daniell)
4. 09:17 AM - Re: Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new co (Tim Ward)
5. 09:57 AM - Re: Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new co (Martin Tuck)
6. 10:29 AM - Re: Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new co (G-ODTW)
7. 11:03 AM - Re: Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new co (jonathanmilbank)
8. 11:32 AM - Re: Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new co (spcialeffects)
9. 07:49 PM - Re: Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new co (spcialeffects)
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Subject: | Re: oil tank auxiliary bracket |
On 2016-12-14, at 22:03, G-ODTW <dave@robotas.co.uk> wrote:
> I had an= 1/8" aly strip in my firewall fwd kit, 25mm * 257mm, in a poly bag
mysteriously labelled "EURO65". I think it must be to make the "90 degree angled
bkt".
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> There is no dwg, so I guess it is wing-it time again.
David - thanks for your message. Yes, I had a EURO65 in my FWF kit too, but couldnt
find a reference to it in the manual, and nobody seems to know what its for.
Karen searched for something that might be used to make the oil tank bracket
support but she couldnt find anything and said that EURO65 did not appear to
be it.
I am adopting plan B which is to use a longer screw at the top inboard location
and fit it with an aluminium sleeve to provide the correct spacing of the bracket
from the indented part of the firewall. I feel this is a better engineering
solution anyway. Not sure if it will count as a mod!
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new co |
I have kit 215, a Classic Tri Gear, with a Rotax 912ULS. It has the Classic cowls
( I actually have 2 sets of them), but the Europa supplied firewall forward
kit requires XS cowls.
Folk tell me I must order a set of XS cowls. But is it feasible to mod the Classic
ones?
Having been totally absorbed running an engineering business for the last 30 years,
building my 'plane came last in the priorities. Finally I have more time
and am making good progress, but I do have a few dumb questions that others asked
15+ years back.
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David Walters
01474 816817
dave@robotas.com
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I set up the doors and they open and close fine...nice tight fit and flush.
Without the seal.
With the seal (without transparency) i have to lean most of my weight down
to get the shoot bolts in. This is obviously going to be hard with the
windows in and my concern is not engaging the rear bolt by mistake causing
the door to depart.
Had anybody had the same problem? I am thinking of finding an alternative
seal.
Will
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Subject: | Re: Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new |
co
David,
If you were supplied with a Europa XS engine frame then no it is not feasible.
The engine frame extends the cowls two inches forward. The XS cowls also have a
different cooling system which allows for your oil and water radiators sent by
Europa.
Would like to buy the Classic cowls however delivery to NZ would too expensive.
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Mob +64 210640221
> On 16/12/2016, at 5:39 AM, G-ODTW <dave@robotas.co.uk> wrote:
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> I have kit 215, a Classic Tri Gear, with a Rotax 912ULS. It has the Classic cowls
( I actually have 2 sets of them), but the Europa supplied firewall forward
kit requires XS cowls.
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ones?
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years, building my 'plane came last in the priorities. Finally I have more time
and am making good progress, but I do have a few dumb questions that others
asked 15+ years back.
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Subject: | Re: Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new |
co
The XS engine mount is different allowing the engine to sit higher for more prop
clearance. The oil and water radiators are located below the engine. I think
you would need the XS style cowlings.
Regards,
Martin Tuck
N152MT (Older Europa with XS cowls).
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 15, 2016, at 10:39 AM, G-ODTW <dave@robotas.co.uk> wrote:
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> I have kit 215, a Classic Tri Gear, with a Rotax 912ULS. It has the Classic cowls
( I actually have 2 sets of them), but the Europa supplied firewall forward
kit requires XS cowls.
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> Folk tell me I must order a set of XS cowls. But is it feasible to mod the Classic
ones?
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> Having been totally absorbed running an engineering business for the last 30
years, building my 'plane came last in the priorities. Finally I have more time
and am making good progress, but I do have a few dumb questions that others
asked 15+ years back.
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> 01474 816817
> dave@robotas.com
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Subject: | Re: Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new |
co
Thank Tim & Martin.
I have now put my Classic top cowl in place, and it is a lot shorter.
Decision made!
The improved prop clearance will be welcome too.
Does anyone need Classic cowls?
Does anyone have a set of XS cowls?
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David Walters
01474 816817
dave@robotas.com
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Subject: | Re: Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new |
co
David, please PM me. I'm doing something similar.
Rgds, Jonathan
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Subject: | Re: Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new |
co
Good to see you are making progress Dave. The XS engine frame makes the engine
sit 1" further forward and 2" higher and will not work with the "classic" cowls........I'v
already researched this as you know i too have the classic.If you
have to buy new cowlings try Neville Eyre's as they have bigger air in takes
and baffles to direct and slow down the air.
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Subject: | Re: Classic cowls, with XS oil & water radiators? Buy new |
co
To use your classic cowls you would need to get a classic engine mount and classic
radiators (2 of them) but am sure the oil cooler could be modified if you
modified the cowls like Peter kember did to move it under the prop. Check out
the Europa owners club site under building.
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