---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/02/17: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:48 AM - Trips 2017 UK/Europe (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 2. 03:16 AM - Re: Trips 2017 UK/Europe (James Kelly) 3. 08:09 AM - Re: The Last Flight of The Year 2016 (Remi Guerner) 4. 09:29 AM - Re: Re: The Last Flight of The Year 2016 (Raimo Toivio) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:40 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Europa-List: Trips 2017 UK/Europe I am pleased to say that rumours of my demise (or my aeroplane's) are premature and GXSDJ is well on the way to resurrection and should be flying in time for me to be fully involved in Trips this year. At the moment we have outline plans for trips to Scandinavia/Arctic, Greece and probably Spain, together with various day trips. It would be good to have suggestions or requests for destinations or routes from anyone contemplating joining a trip or from anyone with local knowledge, and as ever from anyone prepared to lead a trip. I hope to publish a more detailed list of trips with dates in the next two weeks or so. Am happy to discuss any ideas via email or phone at any time (numbers in Europa Flyer) Happy New Year and safe landings! David Joyce, Europa Club Trips organiser ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:16:26 AM PST US From: James Kelly Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trips 2017 UK/Europe Thanks David, Happy new year and please keep me posted. Jim Kelly On 2 Jan 2017 10:50 a.m., wrote: > I am pleased to say that rumours of my demise (or my aeroplane's) are > premature and GXSDJ is well on the way to resurrection and should be flying > in time for me to be fully involved in Trips this year. At the moment we > have outline plans for trips to Scandinavia/Arctic, Greece and probably > Spain, together with various day trips. > > It would be good to have suggestions or requests for destinations or > routes from anyone contemplating joining a trip or from anyone with local > knowledge, and as ever from anyone prepared to lead a trip. I hope to > publish a more detailed list of trips with dates in the next two weeks or > so. Am happy to discuss any ideas via email or phone at any time (numbers > in Europa Flyer) > > Happy New Year and safe landings! David Joyce, Europa Club Trips > organiser > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:23 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: The Last Flight of The Year 2016 From: "Remi Guerner" Raimo, It looks like your landing strip is located just under power lines! Surprising! Could you please provide some more info so that I can locate this place on a map of Finland? I like your stories. Do not hesitate to write more! Best regards Remi F-PGKL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464609#464609 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:25 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: The Last Flight of The Year 2016 From: Raimo Toivio Hello Remi, thanks about that - I have also always liked your style. About our modest landing strips: - 12/30 is parallel with 110 kV power lines, distance say 100 metres, no problem - 03/21 is vertically with the lines so, that the line is over the strip, and the line is 50 metres from the threshold of the 21 That means: - landings ok only to 12/30 - take offs only 12/30 and 21 - you cannot (you can, at least I have done so) land to 03, because in the case of aborted landing, you have to take off under the pwr lines - you cannot (you can, at least I have done so) land to 21, because then you practically have to fly under the lines *** Now I will report you a not-so-funny-story. We had 2013 only 03/21. That was 500 m long. Good one. But take off only 21 (good) and landing only 03 (normally bad because here normally western winds). So I poured of the forest from our land and heureka, I was able to land to the opposite wind 21! My wife refused to land under the power lines, and without a doubt, it was a bit scary to land under them, because they are practicvally invisible. Here is a satellite photo about it: So, I called to the power company: "Hello, its me, your good customer. Our children are sad because of those dead swans, which we regularly can find under your cables. Please, bring here some large red warning balls to the birds". "Yes, we will do that, thanks for calling". Then they came with a huge crane, but when the foreman saw our strip, he understood instantly, and said something I will not write here. Uh! And soon after the managing director of the company wrote us a letter - "its strictly forbiden to use this area for aircraft actions". He even wrote, that we will jeopardize the national security if using our strip! I wrote a long letter - you know - and at the end of the letter I said "fuck you" and wrote "we strictly follow The Finnish law and authoritativies - and you idiot are not the one!" After one week we got a letter from the Finnish FAA & Ministry of Transport: "you are not allowd to use your airstrip in Lempl. If you continue to do so, we are going the cancel all of your flight documents". What a day! 20-years of our dream had collapsed totally. Happily there was an awful early winter snow storm. Over 300.000 people from Finland were w/o electricitet. I wrote in the 2nd biggest newspaper about this, and gave a (free) solution to Elenia how to solve this problem, which is a bit embarrassing, because people are dying, suffering a lot, and its so fucken frustrating to be w/o el! A Miracle Happened; Power Company Elenia happen to made a new risk assessment and "recommended" to the landowner, that "Toivios must get a new strip which is parallel with a power line". That was just after Xmas 2015 - 23.12.2015. Now you know. Flying is not so easy, always... Welcome! Cheers, Raimo Europa OH-XRT 417 Finland allekirjoitus 2.1.2017, 18:08, Remi Guerner kirjoitti: > > Raimo, > It looks like your landing strip is located just under power lines! Surprising! Could you please provide some more info so that I can locate this place on a map of Finland? > I like your stories. Do not hesitate to write more! > Best regards > Remi > F-PGKL > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464609#464609 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.