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1. 05:23 AM - Re: Re: CAMLOC Fasteners (Greg Fuchs)
2. 05:25 AM - Re: Re: CAMLOC Fasteners (Greg Fuchs)
3. 08:32 AM - Europa Club Membership Number (Martin Tuck)
4. 08:35 AM - Re: Trips 2017 UK/Europe (graeme bird)
5. 01:54 PM - Re: Re: CAMLOC Fasteners (William Daniell)
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| Subject: | Re: CAMLOC Fasteners |
Raimo,
I wouldn't want to use up the worlds rubber on just camloc washers, that
might not go over well.
However, I think you are a lucky one to only have leaks at stand still.
Using your idea of tape, I would imagine vinyl tape circles just bigger
than
the overall camlock area might provide a solution for when it rains, and
hopefully it would stay on in flight. Might be unsightly if it doesn't
sit
flat, and would have to be removed whenever there is a need to access to
the
cowling. It seems at least a stop-gap solution..and yes lightweight.
Regards and thanks,
Greg A050 XS TRI
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Raimo
Toivio
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: CAMLOC Fasteners
Greg,
that=B4s true. But only when Europa is standing in the rain, never when
flying
during the rain!
Wet panel inside and water around the pedals made me a bit nervous!
My solution:
- keep always in the hangar during the rain and when this is not
possible
for example in Fly-Ins, I put nice RWM packing tape one meter
over the "camlocks" (in my case only three [3] of them front of the
windshield) when rain is expected . Simple, fast, easy, low-cost and
effective.
Of course this is not a professional solution, but it works very well.
You could made a mod preventing water to come, but why in the hell again
add
some dead weight?
Rubber is good, but let=B4s use it in the bed if really necessary. Hope
not!
If I have not cockpit covers omboard, I tape always also a refueling
cap.
Just in case!
There is a rubber sealing ring but I do not trust it.
"Number of pitfalls" ? Please please report them all!
There are number of pitfalls when not using camlocks or other
"fast-remove-cowling-system"!
Please loosen your hat...
Those of you who are building, I highly recommend to make a quick
release
system at least for the upper cowling.
Those who are flying, just consider to do it.
Just for your safety.
Cheers,
Raimo
OH-XRT #417
Finland
<mailto:info@rwm.fi>
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| Subject: | Re: CAMLOC Fasteners |
Will,
Hmm, I looked and looked and somehow couldn't find the entry, much less the
picture. Oh well, the fix seems tenable, and plenty of solutions along this
idea path could be cooked up.
thanks much,
Greg
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Daniell
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: CAMLOC Fasteners
Some one I forget whom .... maybe graham or perhaps david had a system
whereby the top of the top cowl had no holes at all. The top cowling had
fixed pins on the inside of the upper cowling which engage with receivers on
the firewall about one inch below the cowling lower surface. This was done
precisely to avoid water ingress to the panel area. So you can imagine
fitting the upper cowling by sliding it backwards to engage the male pins
with the female receptacle on the firewall.
The rest of the cowling (the join with the lower cowling) was fastened with
camlocs if Im not wrong.
its hard to describe and Im damned if I can find the picture but this was a
discussion on the list around 2014. I thought it was rather an elegant
solution which I didnt follow because I want to get flying but I might well
retrofit
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
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| Subject: | Europa Club Membership Number |
If the current membership secretary of the Europa Club is on the forum
can you contact me privately and remind me my membership number.
I wish to renew and tried doing it online but it needs my number and I
seem to have mislaid it.
Thanks,
Martin Tuck
Wichita, KS
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| Subject: | Re: Trips 2017 UK/Europe |
Good advice, thanks. 2016 was a funny year weather wise, but I flew more and further
than any previous years. I could extend a bit and plan a contingency route
back retracing my steps the Spain trip sounds interesting too.
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis
ap, pflarm, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP 5, Aera500 & SD on Nexus,
250 hours & 4 years on the Mono, 880 total
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464840#464840
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| Subject: | Re: CAMLOC Fasteners |
Ok let me try to hunt it down
Will
On Jan 7, 2017 08:31, "Greg Fuchs" <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net> wrote:
> Will,
> Hmm, I looked and looked and somehow couldn't find the entry, much less
> the picture. Oh well, the fix seems tenable, and plenty of solutions along
> this idea path could be cooked up.
> thanks much,
> Greg
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-
> server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *William Daniell
> *Sent:* Friday, January 06, 2017 8:11 AM
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Re: CAMLOC Fasteners
>
> Some one I forget whom .... maybe graham or perhaps david had a system
> whereby the top of the top cowl had no holes at all. The top cowling had
> fixed pins on the inside of the upper cowling which engage with receivers
> on the firewall about one inch below the cowling lower surface. This was
> done precisely to avoid water ingress to the panel area. So you can
> imagine fitting the upper cowling by sliding it backwards to engage the
> male pins with the female receptacle on the firewall.
>
> The rest of the cowling (the join with the lower cowling) was fastened
> with camlocs if Im not wrong.
>
> its hard to describe and Im damned if I can find the picture but this was
> a discussion on the list around 2014. I thought it was rather an elegant
> solution which I didnt follow because I want to get flying but I might well
> retrofit
>
> Will
>
> William Daniell
> LONGPORT
> +57 310 295 0744
>
>
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