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1. 01:24 AM - Re: Finishing/ painting touchup? (JonSmith)
2. 01:56 AM - Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS (JonSmith)
3. 05:22 AM - Re: Trips 2017 UK/Europe (JohnFrance)
4. 05:30 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/02/17 (h&jeuropa)
5. 05:46 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/02/17 (rampil)
6. 05:47 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/02/17 (houlihan tim)
7. 05:47 AM - Re: Re: Trips 2017 UK/Europe (houlihan tim)
8. 06:04 AM - Plenum Chamber 912s XS - wanted (Orchard)
9. 07:49 AM - Re: Plenum Chamber 912s XS - wanted (Alan Twigg)
10. 07:49 AM - Re: Plenum Chamber 912s XS - wanted (Rowland Carson)
11. 09:07 AM - Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS (spcialeffects)
12. 10:52 AM - Europa Mono 100hp for sale (William Bliss)
13. 01:09 PM - Re: Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS (Trevor Pond)
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Subject: | Re: Finishing/ painting touchup? |
Hi Karl, many thanks for your reply and advice. Aerosol cans I think it will be.....!
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G-TERN
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Subject: | Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS |
Hi Brian, I absolutely agree about the company - it is essential for us that they
exist and I do my very best to support them where I can; they are always my
first port of call to look. For me, ease of availability (especially for our
specialist parts) is the first priority and cost (within reason!!) is secondary.
Nb - by "ease of availability", of course it's very much the consideration that
for many of our specialist parts the company is the ONLY source!
On the occasions that I order from Europa I often think ahead and include smaller
things that I will need in the future, even things like Puralator fuel filter
elements that are undoubtably available on Fleebay for half the cost but that
I can't be bothered to look for. However there is a limit of course, when
you read for example the hassle that the gentleman above has had over gas struts
- he first explored the company route with no success and found an alternative
available with a one click-next day delivery then that's a no-brainier.
I must say though that in my experience I have always found the company (and Karen
being the first point of contact) to be very available and helpful. We must
remember they are a small cottage industry in a competitive market place performing
a vital role in supporting a very small number of demanding people.....!!
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G-TERN
Classic Mono
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Subject: | Re: Trips 2017 UK/Europe |
Dear Europa pilots, France has been in a state of emergency since July 2015 which
has been extended until July 2017. This has the effect that the Schengen agreement
is no longer in force for cross border aircraft travel and all flights
to and from France need to go through an "airport of entry".
Make sure you have up-to-date information about airports of entry as the number
has been reduced over the last 12 months due to government cuts.
Once you are here though it is an easy system to navigate in and the ATC controllers
speak good English and are generally very helpful.
Regards
John
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Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/02/17 |
Don,
Heather seems to recall 14 to 1.
We cross Lake Michigan routinely. Just climb to at least 8000 ft and you'll easily
be able to glide to the closest shore. We also fly north up the center of
the lake going to the Upper Peninsula since you always are no more than 25 miles
from the shore line. Obviously you need to be aware of your location and
what the winds aloft are.
We also wear life preservers. Ours are the type that look like suspenders and
are manually inflated. Better to die from hypothermia than drowning :) .
Jim & Heather
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Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/02/17 |
Have you considered measuring the glide ratio yourself, in your aircraft.
The results are going to depend on your weight, finish quality of your
paint, degree of out of rig trim drag, type of prop, etc, etc, etc.
Since the Europa is not a factory aircraft, there really is no such thing
as a standard value and over the years, many of the promotional values
were simply aspirational for most builders.
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Ira N224XS
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Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/02/17 |
Don.
regarding your over water trip
"We cross Lake Michigan routinely. Just climb to at least 8000 ft and you'll
easily be able to glide to the closest shore"
Dont forget the Europa has been demonstrated to float very well if it is ditched
intact.
Tim H
G-BZTH.
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> On 05 February 2017 at 13:30 "h&jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net> wrote:
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> Don,
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> Heather seems to recall 14 to 1.
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> We cross Lake Michigan routinely. Just climb to at least 8000 ft and
> you'll easily be able to glide to the closest shore. We also fly north up the
> center of the lake going to the Upper Peninsula since you always are no more
> than 25 miles from the shore line. Obviously you need to be aware of your
> location and what the winds aloft are.
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> We also wear life preservers. Ours are the type that look like suspenders
> and are manually inflated. Better to die from hypothermia than drowning :) .
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> Jim & Heather
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Subject: | Re: Trips 2017 UK/Europe |
Oh. regarding
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> Dear Europa pilots, France has been in a state of emergency since Jul
y
> 2015 which has been extended until July 2017. This has the effect that th
e
> Schengen agreement is no longer in force for cross border aircraft travel
and
> all flights to and from France need to go through an =9Cairport of
entry=9D.
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I did not find any of problems you you mention during last years Europa clu
b
trip to France, Italy, Austria, Germany, Czech republic and Poland., other
than
the number of customs entry points having been reduced over the past few ye
ars.
Yes we had to enter and leave the Schengen area via a customs aerodrome. bu
t we
have had to do that when travelling from the UK ever since the Schengen
agreement was introduced many years ago.
Flying within the Schengen area was very easy all that seemed to be require
d was
a flight plan if you were crossing FIR boundaries. .
Tim H
G-BZTH
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> On 05 February 2017 at 13:21 JohnFrance <77alembert@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear Europa pilots, France has been in a state of emergency since Jul
y
> 2015 which has been extended until July 2017. This has the effect that th
e
> Schengen agreement is no longer in force for cross border aircraft travel
and
> all flights to and from France need to go through an "airport of entry".
> Make sure you have up-to-date information about airports of entry as
the
> number has been reduced over the last 12 months due to government cuts.
> Once you are here though it is an easy system to navigate in and the
ATC
> controllers speak good English and are generally very helpful.
> Regards
> John
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Subject: | Plenum Chamber 912s XS - wanted |
Long shot - but does any one have a 912s XS Plenum Chamber I could purchase?
Many thanks
Jon
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Subject: | Re: Plenum Chamber 912s XS - wanted |
Yes, my nev cowling do not use it.
Alan Twigg
Bicester
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> On 5 Feb 2017, at 14:03, Orchard <jonturner@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Long shot - but does any one have a 912s XS Plenum Chamber I could purchase?
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Subject: | Re: Plenum Chamber 912s XS - wanted |
On 2017-02-05, at 14:03, Orchard <jonturner@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Long shot - but does any one have a 912s XS Plenum Chamber I could purchase?
Jon - I have a PC02 plenum chamber surplus to my requirements (on my 912s-powered
XS Im using Neville Eyres cowl which doesnt need it) and would be happy to
let you have it.
It might be a bit awkward to post - what country are you in? Im in Gloucestershire,
UK.
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS |
I would just like to add my 2 pence worth to this thread. I do agree that it is
better for us owners if Europa stay in business however, Europa as a company
from MY experiences is all about 1 person........and that's Karen. She is you
point of contact when ordering, she picks your order and then ships it, BUT when
she isn't there whether she's on holiday or whatever then that's it! Phone
doesn't get answered which means In essence there is no Europa. It's like Swift
cant be bothered to pull on resources and put someone else in the chair to keep
things moving. When this does happen what are owners supposed to do? Stay
grounded? Stall on your build? Not acceptable
If you do a search on the forum reference these gas struts, I started a thread
looking at other sources for items and gas struts were one of the things lots
of us wanted. One of the guys on here organised to go to SGS and do a group
buy...........HOWEVER Karen then read the thread and contacted them to remind
them that they should not sell to us as individuals. My thoughts on this were
how dare she!! I should be able to spend my money with whoever and whenever
I like.
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Subject: | Europa Mono 100hp for sale |
G-WUFF has just been permitted will shortly be advertised for sale. I am
looking for a Zenair 701SP. Contact me if interested. William Bliss
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Subject: | Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS |
If we could fly in to Wombleton to get spares life would be so much easier. When
John and Roger were running Europa, they used to meet us at the airfield clutching
our spares!!! Now that was service with a smile
Trev Pond - GLINN
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> On 5 Feb 2017, at 09:55, JonSmith <jonsmitheuropa@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
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> Hi Brian, I absolutely agree about the company - it is essential for us that
they exist and I do my very best to support them where I can; they are always
my first port of call to look. For me, ease of availability (especially for
our specialist parts) is the first priority and cost (within reason!!) is secondary.
> Nb - by "ease of availability", of course it's very much the consideration that
for many of our specialist parts the company is the ONLY source!
>
> On the occasions that I order from Europa I often think ahead and include smaller
things that I will need in the future, even things like Puralator fuel filter
elements that are undoubtably available on Fleebay for half the cost but
that I can't be bothered to look for. However there is a limit of course, when
you read for example the hassle that the gentleman above has had over gas struts
- he first explored the company route with no success and found an alternative
available with a one click-next day delivery then that's a no-brainier.
>
> I must say though that in my experience I have always found the company (and
Karen being the first point of contact) to be very available and helpful. We
must remember they are a small cottage industry in a competitive market place
performing a vital role in supporting a very small number of demanding people.....!!
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