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Mon 02/06/17


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 03:11 AM - Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS (Miss Europa)
     2. 03:19 AM - Re: Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS (david park)
     3. 06:59 AM - Re: Trips 2017 UK/Europe (Remi Guerner)
     4. 07:40 AM - Re: Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS (Fred Klein)
     5. 06:48 PM - Re: Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS (Bud Yerly)
     6. 08:16 PM - Ruedi Vogal engine failure! (Bud Yerly)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:11:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS
    From: "Miss Europa" <karen.ward@europa-aircraft.com>
    I would like to thank those that have supported the company/myself and for your kind words. It is not often that I comment on subjects, but on this occasion I feel I need to advise of the situation regarding the Gas Struts. The gas struts supplied by Europa Aircraft (2004) Ltd are custom made (not off-the-shelf) and are approved for use by the LAA. To some these may appear expensive, but we try to keep our prices as low as possible for you Europa owners and our supplier did advise that these should be marketed at double the price that we are currently selling them for. On another note, we are happy for you to fly into Wombleton and collect your orders but please phone ahead! -------- Karen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465831#465831


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    Time: 03:19:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS
    From: david park <dpark748@icloud.com>
    Karen, >From a Europa 2004 supporter. Keep up you good work you are appreciated. Regards Dave Park > On 6 Feb 2017, at 11:10, Miss Europa <karen.ward@europa-aircraft.com> wrote: > > > I would like to thank those that have supported the company/myself and for your kind words. It is not often that I comment on subjects, but on this occasion I feel I need to advise of the situation regarding the Gas Struts. The gas struts supplied by Europa Aircraft (2004) Ltd are custom made (not off-the-shelf) and are approved for use by the LAA. To some these may appear expensive, but we try to keep our prices as low as possible for you Europa owners and our supplier did advise that these should be marketed at double the price that we are currently selling them for. > > On another note, we are happy for you to fly into Wombleton and collect your orders but please phone ahead! > > -------- > Karen > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465831#465831 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:59:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trips 2017 UK/Europe
    From: "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr>
    Hi John, There is still a lot of confusion about cross border flights following the state of emergency in France. It seems that some Prefects use the power provided by the state of emergency to take some stupid decisions, applicable locally, regarding cross border flights. For example at Colmar (LFGA) there is a NOTAM which says you must contact customs 24 hours in advance for ANY cross border flight; so obviously this includes intra Schengen flights. This sort of NOTAMs have been issued for a few other custom airfields around the country but I am not aware of the publication of a Sup AIP or any other document from the french authorities which requires all intra Schengen flights to start from or arrive at one of those custom airports. So if you start from or arrive at an airport which does not show this sort of crazy NOTAM, you are good to go. John, if you know of an official document which states otherwise, please let us know, that would be very helpful. Best regards Remi >>>>>>>>> Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465837#465837


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    Time: 07:40:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    I would suggest that in all probability, the low volume, minimal quantity purchasing price which Europa Aircraft pays the manufacturer or the distributor of such parts is a near equivalent of that which the customer at an online outlet paysand because of much higher volume, the online outlet has negotiated a lower price from the supplier which allows the seller to make his profitto have those parts in stock and staff to handle orders are real costs which Europa Aircraft must bear and attempts to recoup with these seemingly unreasonable markups, but who am I to saysurely no one is suggesting that EA is attempting to overcharge its customer base?... Perhaps the more fundemental question might beWhat does a few dozen extra pounds or bucks mean to someone whos lavished thousands on an expensive hobby, when not spending it via support for a company deemed essential to maintaining the value of that expensive hobby, will ultimately result in Swift shutting down its Europa lifeline? > On Feb 4, 2017, at 2:36 AM, Brian Davies <brian.davies@clara.co.uk> wrote: > > > I think this illustrates our dilemma. We all want to support Europa > Aircraft because we rely on them for parts that cannot be obtained from > other sources. When it comes to parts that are readily available from other > sources the factory are simply not price competitive. > > Gas strut from Europa 47.76 excluding taxes and postage. > Gas strut from SGS (sold as a Europa Aircraft Door Strut) 18.99 exc taxes > and postage. Delivered ex stock, ordered online. > > So what do we do?


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    Time: 06:48:58 PM PST US
    From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS
    On the subject of gas struts. Please pay attention to the lift capacity of off the shelf struts. Some are overly charged for heavy items and soon folks have found the studs have broken out of the fiberglass. So reinforcing had to be done. Of course too light and the door won't stay up. If your doors are really heavy. A higher strut pressure is necessary, but don't forget to reinforce the studs. I have had a strut company build a set of struts and locking sockets for me that are acceptable for those with heavy doors from thicker glass as on the XS with those neat clear plexiglass doors , door handles, pins to hold the door in, custom really nice but heavy door knobs, and lots and lots of filler. They work, but the price isn't terribly different than the Europa Struts. Nice guarantee. Regards, Bud Yerly -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of carlp101 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 5:58 AM Subject: Europa-List: Re: EUROPA XS GAS STRUTS Thanks Jon. Ordered! It'll save my head, fingers, shoulder and passengers from nasty surprises. JonSmith wrote: > Looks like the part number is GS86991. When you put it in their > search box it comes up with this; > > http://www.sgs-engineering.com/nl5265-europa-aircraft-gas-strut Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465733#465733


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    Time: 08:16:05 PM PST US
    From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: Ruedi Vogal engine failure!
    I was reading the Europa Flyer on Ruedi Vogal's engine failure in HB-YJF. Excellent airmanship making a safe forced landing. By the sounds of the failure, I must bring up a recurring problem with the 912S with XS firewall forward and its exhaust problem. I highly suspect an exhaust leak may be another culprit to consider, as wit h red Aeroquip or Parker fire sleeve, fuel vaporization is rare in the XS c owl with the boost pump on for takeoff. I have had two recent experiences with engine roughness due to exhaust leaks and left to continue the engine would have failed at full power. Exhaust leaks don't show up during initia l ground runs. When the engine is cowled up, shortly after takeoff, if the exhaust leak is on either aft cylinder or its downpipe, the exhaust will j et out of the leak onto the float bowl and boil the fuel out of the carb in a very short time. This causes roughness then failure normally not a pur e just dead silent engine. The post flight analysis usually is seen as small amounts of soot on the ca rb body or bowl, upon disassembly, the carb may have a sticky lacquer type feel due to the baked fuel residue. It is really frustrating as during any engine roughness emergency we normally do the following: Aux Boost Pump - On Fuel selector - switch to unused full tank. Reduce power-As required to obtain smooth operations. Land as soon as possible. This throttle reduction action refills the float bowl at reduced power (as the jet of exhaust is now diminished) and there is no evidence of a boiling incident. Drat. I did a poor job of explaining in my Troubleshooting guide on how to look f or and solve an exhaust leak. Look for the tan soot trail out of the junct ion of the pipe to cylinder head joint or the ball socket at the muffler fo r sure, but one should also make a heat shield to protect the carb from th e possible future exhaust leaks. I am not a fan of the 914 drip tray on th e older models we all suffered with, but take the idea from the new tray de sign for the 914. A simple bent piece of aluminum attached to the foot wel l will work also. I personally have my clients fab a tray, bolted to an Ad el clamp on the engine frame and to the 5mm threaded hole in the cylinder h ead and shaped to deflect any exhaust leak from the carb and wiring. Crude but effective. I apologize for not including this in my miscellaneous ramblings from one n ight. Best Regards, Bud Yerly




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