---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/10/17: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:08 AM - Mono undercarriage lubrication? (JonSmith) 2. 12:13 AM - Re: Painting the Instrument Module (ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net) 3. 12:19 AM - Re: Airmaster prop problems. (Roland) 4. 01:19 AM - Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs (carlp101) 5. 01:23 AM - Re: landing light - anyone fitted one, UK MOD? (clivesutton) 6. 02:44 AM - Re: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs (david park) 7. 03:47 AM - Re: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs (Kevin Challis) 8. 04:07 AM - Re: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs (danny shepherd) 9. 05:03 AM - Re: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs (William Daniell) 10. 07:07 AM - Re: Painting the Instrument Module (Erich Trombley) 11. 08:34 AM - Re: Painting the Instrument Module (Richard Wheelwright) 12. 09:34 AM - Re: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs (carlp101) 13. 10:42 AM - Re: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs (Robert Borger) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:19 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Mono undercarriage lubrication? From: "JonSmith" Should one periodically lubricate the aluminium bronze pivot bearings that the undercarriage swinging arm mounts and pivots on the engine/ undercarriage frame? Maybe with a squirt of light oil? And the oilite bushes in the shock absorber rubber block top and bottom plates - and all other moving parts for that matter? Cheers, Jon -------- G-TERN Classic Mono Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465955#465955 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:53 AM PST US From: "ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Painting the Instrument Module I've tried a few colours and textures: Cream colour Nextel - disaster Dark maroon colour carpet to temporarily cover over the above. Better but not that good. Semi matt (it was mixed to be matt, plus a 'bumper' texturizer) dark grey. Just about tolerable but not perfect. I wouldn't redo this in anything but matt black, Nextel or 2K (plus the texturizer for appearance). On a sunny day it gets hot and the polyester resin in the panel construction can be smelled. It hasn't distorted, but needs ventilation anyway (Europas like to cook avionics). BTW, if you use Nextel then it can be primed (wet on wet) with any similarly-coloured 2K paint for a bond that won't shift, there's no need for the Nextel primer. Duncan McF. ----Original Message---- From: jon.catilli@gmail.com Subj: Europa-List: Painting the Instrument Module Hi All, I'm looking to paint my new instrument module in the next weeks. It's new, so it currently got the "Europa Factory Gray" gelcoat. I'm looking for advice/suggestions. My thoughts are to go for a matt finish, to reduce reflection, and I am thinking about a "Boeing Beige" in terms of the colour. Can anyone advise, or offer experiences, as to what is the best colour/texture for minimising reflections, but also is there any "gotchas" when painting on top of the gelcoat... the last thing I want is for it to peel straight off [Laughing] Best Jon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465934#465934 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:56 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Airmaster prop problems. From: "Roland" I can strongly recommend to get in contact with Martin from Airmaster - he is VERY helpful. My Europa is at the Belgian Airmaster dealer Oyen CTR just now to get its new Whirlwind blades installed :-) Dirk Oyen also knows the complete propeller system in depth. Good luck with the troubleshooting. Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465957#465957 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:19:01 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs From: "carlp101" Hi, My Europa is currently fitted with bungee cord on the nose wheel suspension, but I also have the springs from Europa to replace it. Has anyone fitted the springs? Do they do a good job? I'm concerned that the springs concentrate the forces at two points on the nose wheel frame rather than spreading it out as the bungee does. I'm wondering if it's probably better to stick with what I already have fitted. Any experience / advise greatly appreciated. All the best. Carl Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465959#465959 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:23:32 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: landing light - anyone fitted one, UK MOD? From: "clivesutton" Hi Graeme, I obtained Andy Draper approval under PFA 247-13061 for almost the same implementation as yours, in 2011, for G-TAGR. If you want the paperwork i have, let me know your email and i will send it to you off-list. It test-flew fine and i also found i could dramatically reduce the current drain from aby 4A to less than 1A by using an LED H3 lookalike bulb in the fitting bought from Part for Aircraft. Clive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465960#465960 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:44:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs From: david park Carl, Converted my mono to trike two years ago and fitted springs with help of Neville. Unlikely to fail and more or less a permanent fit! Handling no problems. Dave G-LDVO Dave Park > On 10 Feb 2017, at 09:18, carlp101 wrote: > > > Hi, > > My Europa is currently fitted with bungee cord on the nose wheel suspension, but I also have the springs from Europa to replace it. Has anyone fitted the springs? Do they do a good job? > > I'm concerned that the springs concentrate the forces at two points on the nose wheel frame rather than spreading it out as the bungee does. I'm wondering if it's probably better to stick with what I already have fitted. > > Any experience / advise greatly appreciated. > > All the best. > Carl > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465959#465959 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:35 AM PST US From: Kevin Challis Subject: Re: Europa-List: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs I changed from bungee to springs years ago. I have had no problems at all. Kevin Challis G ODJG > On 10 Feb 2017, at 09:18, carlp101 wrote: > > > Hi, > > My Europa is currently fitted with bungee cord on the nose wheel suspension, but I also have the springs from Europa to replace it. Has anyone fitted the springs? Do they do a good job? > > I'm concerned that the springs concentrate the forces at two points on the nose wheel frame rather than spreading it out as the bungee does. I'm wondering if it's probably better to stick with what I already have fitted. > > Any experience / advise greatly appreciated. > > All the best. > Carl > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465959#465959 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:07:29 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs From: danny shepherd Hi Carl, I fitted the springs I think it was 2009. I've had no problems what so ever. the only thing I do every annual is make sure there's plenty of grease around the top and bottom where they hook on to the frame. fitting was a little tricky, had to expand the springs using a jack and put bolts in the spring to keep expanded while fitting. managed to do it on my own, so you shouldn't have any problem. hope this helps. Danny. G-C.E.R.I On 10/02/2017 09:18, carlp101 wrote: > > Hi, > > My Europa is currently fitted with bungee cord on the nose wheel suspension, but I also have the springs from Europa to replace it. Has anyone fitted the springs? Do they do a good job? > > I'm concerned that the springs concentrate the forces at two points on the nose wheel frame rather than spreading it out as the bungee does. I'm wondering if it's probably better to stick with what I already have fitted. > > Any experience / advise greatly appreciated. > > All the best. > Carl > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465959#465959 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:18 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs Carl I bought springs....but they dont fit the old style nose gear which i have. The issue is in the manual. Just so youre aware Will On Feb 10, 2017 05:24, "carlp101" wrote: Hi, My Europa is currently fitted with bungee cord on the nose wheel suspension, but I also have the springs from Europa to replace it. Has anyone fitted the springs? Do they do a good job? I'm concerned that the springs concentrate the forces at two points on the nose wheel frame rather than spreading it out as the bungee does. I'm wondering if it's probably better to stick with what I already have fitted. Any experience / advise greatly appreciated. All the best. Carl Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465959#465959 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:26 AM PST US From: Erich Trombley Subject: Europa-List: RE: Painting the Instrument Module I used a grey "hammered" finish from a spray can. I like the look of the "hammered" finish as it gives the panel some depth. Like others have said, sand the gel coat prior to priming and application of the top coat. If you are concerned about reflections you can apply a clear satin finish over the top coat. The finish has held up very well over the past 14 years. Regards, Erich N28ET Classic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ Bring Back That Luscious Thick Hair [How To] nucific.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/589dd6f472c4356f40514st03vuc ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:34:24 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Painting the Instrument Module From: "Richard Wheelwright" Like Erich Using just off the self paint from local car shop works As a earlier in this posting. Sand the shine off the gray gel coat first. Then look for hollows under the the gray gel coat by using a hard point such as the edge of a flat screwdriver, pushing it hard against all the edges and you will find the hollows underneath. Fill and Sand. Spray with a can of under coat, then 2 coats of Matt couler top coat of your choosing. I used Black and have never had any problems with over heating here in the UK but I try not to leave the aircraft in direct sunlight for a long time. -------- Richard Wheelwright G-IRPW First Flight 24th July 2013 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465977#465977 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:47 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs From: "carlp101" Good to know they are OK. Thanks all. Carl Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465978#465978 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:42:06 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Replacing nose wheel suspension bungee with springs From: Robert Borger Carl, Since you have the springs, Id suggest you go ahead at the next opportunity (such as an annual) and replace the bungees with the springs. I have the springs on my tri-gear and the are working great. I helped Bud do my tri-gear conversion and he slipped a sheet of stainless steel between the spring and frame to help prevent the wear you describe. Theres lots of up-side to the switch and I cant think of any down-side at all. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Feb 10, 2017, at 3:18 AM, carlp101 wrote: Hi, My Europa is currently fitted with bungee cord on the nose wheel suspension, but I also have the springs from Europa to replace it. Has anyone fitted the springs? Do they do a good job? I'm concerned that the springs concentrate the forces at two points on the nose wheel frame rather than spreading it out as the bungee does. I'm wondering if it's probably better to stick with what I already have fitted. Any experience / advise greatly appreciated. All the best. 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