---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/21/17: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:55 AM - Re: Somewhere over the last 12 years I lost my stall strips (William Daniell) 2. 03:23 PM - Re: Somewhere over the last 12 years I lost my stall strips (Bud Yerly) 3. 06:20 PM - Re: Somewhere over the last 12 years I lost my stall strips (William Daniell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:30 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Somewhere over the last 12 years I lost my stall strips Bud thanks Can anyone tell me the Spruce definition of "glider tape"? I am guessing that this is also used for sealing the tailplane pin holes. Thanks Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:06 AM, Bud Yerly wrote: > Will, > > They are just an angle of about 3/8 inch. See your Operators manual Page > 9-5. To my knowledge the material was never supplied by Europa. > > Personally I use aluminum angle rather than fabricating a wood piece with > a 90 degree face and concave back. Simply put tape on the leading edge a nd > then set the angle on the tape, tape over it in place and go fly. If the > angle is right, and it does what you want, carefully remove some of the > tape, mark it and then transfer the marks to the wing and glue it on. I > use glider tape. I=99m lazy so I drill two holes right through the 90 degree > angle when on the bench and tape it on to test. Then when it is position ed > properly, I drill into the wing through the holes in the end. Pull the > tape, use the holes to align, fill the back of the angle with flox and > cleco or tape on the strip. Fill sand prime paint. You may want to angl e > the ends of the angle for less filling. > > > Fletner strips are 10 mm or 3/8 inch at the trailing edge when installed > but the strips come as wood wedges about 25mm by 5 mm taped together, if > that what you are thinking of rather than stall strips. > > > Regards, > > Bud Yerly > > > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list- > server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *William Daniell > *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2017 1:13 PM > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Europa-List: Somewhere over the last 12 years I lost my stall > strips > > > Dear List, > > I have lost my stall strips over the last 12 years of building. I seem t o > remember that the factory version was a five sided deal with about a 1/2 in > base. > > I see GA aircraft with just a 90 deg triangle on the Leading Edge. > > Does the profile of the stall strip matter that much? > > Thanks > > Will > > > William Daniell > > LONGPORT > > +57 310 295 0744 > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:23:08 PM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: Somewhere over the last 12 years I lost my stall strips R290IHRvIGRvIHRoZSBHb29nbGUuDQoNCkJvd2x1cyBpcyB3aG8gSSBnZXQgaXQgdGhyb3VnaC4g IFNlZSBDdW11bHVzIFNvYXJpbmcgb3Igc2ltaWxhci4gIFNwcnVjZSBoYXMgY2xlYXIgZ2FwIHNl YWwgdGFwZS4gIDNNIG1ha2VzIGEgUFZDIHRhcGUgb3RoZXJzIGFyZSB2aW55bCBvciBwb2x5dXJl dGhhbmUuICBJIGxpa2UgdGhlIHdoaXRlIHR3byBpbmNoIEJvd2x1cyB0YXBlLiAgVGhpcyB0YXBl IHN0cmV0Y2hlcyBhbmQgY29uZm9ybXMgYmV0dGVyLiAgWW91IGNhbiB1c2UgcGFja2luZyB0YXBl LCBidXQgdGhlIGdsdWUgaXMgbmFzdHksIGFuZCBpdCBkb2VzbuKAmXQgY29uZm9ybSB0byBjdXJ2 ZXMgd2VsbC4NCg0KQnVkIFllcmx5DQoNCkZyb206IG93bmVyLWV1cm9wYS1saXN0LXNlcnZlckBt YXRyb25pY3MuY29tIFttYWlsdG86b3duZXItZXVyb3BhLWxpc3Qtc2VydmVyQG1hdHJvbmljcy5j b21dIE9uIEJlaGFsZiBPZiBXaWxsaWFtIERhbmllbGwNClNlbnQ6IFR1ZXNkYXksIEZlYnJ1YXJ5 IDIxLCAyMDE3IDc6NTQgQU0NClRvOiBldXJvcGEtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tDQpTdWJqZWN0 OiBSZTogRXVyb3BhLUxpc3Q6IFNvbWV3aGVyZSBvdmVyIHRoZSBsYXN0IDEyIHllYXJzIEkgbG9z dCBteSBzdGFsbCBzdHJpcHMNCg0KQnVkIHRoYW5rcw0KQ2FuIGFueW9uZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHRoZSBT cHJ1Y2UgZGVmaW5pdGlvbiBvZiAiZ2xpZGVyIHRhcGUiPyAgSSBhbSBndWVzc2luZyB0aGF0IHRo aXMgaXMgYWxzbyB1c2VkIGZvciBzZWFsaW5nIHRoZSB0YWlscGxhbmUgcGluIGhvbGVzLg0KVGhh bmtzDQpXaWxsDQoNCldpbGxpYW0gRGFuaWVsbA0KTE9OR1BPUlQNCis1NyAzMTAgMjk1IDA3NDQN Cg0KT24gVHVlLCBGZWIgMjEsIDIwMTcgYXQgMTowNiBBTSwgQnVkIFllcmx5IDxidWR5ZXJseUBt c24uY29tPG1haWx0bzpidWR5ZXJseUBtc24uY29tPj4gd3JvdGU6DQpXaWxsLA0KVGhleSBhcmUg anVzdCBhbiBhbmdsZSBvZiBhYm91dCAzLzggaW5jaC4gIFNlZSB5b3VyIE9wZXJhdG9ycyBtYW51 YWwgUGFnZSA5LTUuICBUbyBteSBrbm93bGVkZ2UgdGhlIG1hdGVyaWFsIHdhcyBuZXZlciBzdXBw bGllZCBieSBFdXJvcGEuDQpQZXJzb25hbGx5IEkgdXNlIGFsdW1pbnVtIGFuZ2xlIHJhdGhlciB0 aGFuIGZhYnJpY2F0aW5nIGEgd29vZCBwaWVjZSB3aXRoIGEgOTAgZGVncmVlIGZhY2UgYW5kIGNv bmNhdmUgYmFjay4gIFNpbXBseSBwdXQgdGFwZSBvbiB0aGUgbGVhZGluZyBlZGdlIGFuZCB0aGVu IHNldCB0aGUgYW5nbGUgb24gdGhlIHRhcGUsIHRhcGUgb3ZlciBpdCBpbiBwbGFjZSBhbmQgZ28g Zmx5LiAgSWYgdGhlIGFuZ2xlIGlzIHJpZ2h0LCBhbmQgaXQgZG9lcyB3aGF0IHlvdSB3YW50LCBj YXJlZnVsbHkgcmVtb3ZlIHNvbWUgb2YgdGhlIHRhcGUsIG1hcmsgaXQgYW5kIHRoZW4gdHJhbnNm ZXIgdGhlIG1hcmtzIHRvIHRoZSB3aW5nIGFuZCBnbHVlIGl0IG9uLiAgSSB1c2UgZ2xpZGVyIHRh cGUuICBJ4oCZbSBsYXp5IHNvIEkgZHJpbGwgdHdvIGhvbGVzIHJpZ2h0IHRocm91Z2ggdGhlIDkw IGRlZ3JlZSBhbmdsZSB3aGVuIG9uIHRoZSBiZW5jaCBhbmQgdGFwZSBpdCBvbiB0byB0ZXN0LiAg VGhlbiB3aGVuIGl0IGlzIHBvc2l0aW9uZWQgcHJvcGVybHksIEkgZHJpbGwgaW50byB0aGUgd2lu ZyB0aHJvdWdoIHRoZSBob2xlcyBpbiB0aGUgZW5kLiAgUHVsbCB0aGUgdGFwZSwgdXNlIHRoZSBo b2xlcyB0byBhbGlnbiwgZmlsbCB0aGUgYmFjayBvZiB0aGUgYW5nbGUgd2l0aCBmbG94IGFuZCBj bGVjbyBvciB0YXBlIG9uIHRoZSBzdHJpcC4gIEZpbGwgc2FuZCBwcmltZSBwYWludC4gIFlvdSBt YXkgd2FudCB0byBhbmdsZSB0aGUgZW5kcyBvZiB0aGUgYW5nbGUgZm9yIGxlc3MgZmlsbGluZy4N Cg0KRmxldG5lciBzdHJpcHMgYXJlIDEwIG1tIG9yIDMvOCBpbmNoIGF0IHRoZSB0cmFpbGluZyBl ZGdlIHdoZW4gaW5zdGFsbGVkIGJ1dCB0aGUgc3RyaXBzIGNvbWUgYXMgd29vZCB3ZWRnZXMgYWJv dXQgMjVtbSBieSA1IG1tIHRhcGVkIHRvZ2V0aGVyLCBpZiB0aGF0IHdoYXQgeW91IGFyZSB0aGlu a2luZyBvZiByYXRoZXIgdGhhbiBzdGFsbCBzdHJpcHMuDQoNClJlZ2FyZHMsDQpCdWQgWWVybHkN Cg0KRnJvbTogb3duZXItZXVyb3BhLWxpc3Qtc2VydmVyQG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb208bWFpbHRvOm93 bmVyLWV1cm9wYS1saXN0LXNlcnZlckBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPiBbbWFpbHRvOm93bmVyLWV1cm9w YS1saXN0LXNlcnZlckBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPG1haWx0bzpvd25lci1ldXJvcGEtbGlzdC1zZXJ2 ZXJAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbT5dIE9uIEJlaGFsZiBPZiBXaWxsaWFtIERhbmllbGwNClNlbnQ6IE1v bmRheSwgRmVicnVhcnkgMjAsIDIwMTcgMToxMyBQTQ0KVG86IGV1cm9wYS1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmlj cy5jb208bWFpbHRvOmV1cm9wYS1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20+DQpTdWJqZWN0OiBFdXJvcGEt TGlzdDogU29tZXdoZXJlIG92ZXIgdGhlIGxhc3QgMTIgeWVhcnMgSSBsb3N0IG15IHN0YWxsIHN0 cmlwcw0KDQpEZWFyIExpc3QsDQpJIGhhdmUgbG9zdCBteSBzdGFsbCBzdHJpcHMgb3ZlciB0aGUg bGFzdCAxMiB5ZWFycyBvZiBidWlsZGluZy4gIEkgc2VlbSB0byByZW1lbWJlciB0aGF0IHRoZSBm YWN0b3J5IHZlcnNpb24gd2FzIGEgZml2ZSBzaWRlZCBkZWFsIHdpdGggYWJvdXQgYSAxLzIgaW4g YmFzZS4NCg0KSSBzZWUgR0EgYWlyY3JhZnQgd2l0aCBqdXN0IGEgOTAgZGVnIHRyaWFuZ2xlIG9u IHRoZSBMZWFkaW5nIEVkZ2UuDQpEb2VzIHRoZSBwcm9maWxlIG9mIHRoZSBzdGFsbCBzdHJpcCBt YXR0ZXIgdGhhdCBtdWNoPw0KVGhhbmtzDQpXaWxsDQoNCg0KV2lsbGlhbSBEYW5pZWxsDQpMT05H UE9SVA0KKzU3IDMxMCAyOTUgMDc0NA0KDQo ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:55 PM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: RE: Europa-List: Somewhere over the last 12 years I lost my stall strips Excellent thanks On Feb 21, 2017 18:26, "Bud Yerly" wrote: > Got to do the Google. > > > Bowlus is who I get it through. See Cumulus Soaring or similar. Spruce > has clear gap seal tape. 3M makes a PVC tape others are vinyl or > polyurethane. I like the white two inch Bowlus tape. This tape stretche s > and conforms better. You can use packing tape, but the glue is nasty, an d > it doesn=99t conform to curves well. > > > Bud Yerly > > > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list- > server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *William Daniell > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:54 AM > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Somewhere over the last 12 years I lost my > stall strips > > > Bud thanks > > Can anyone tell me the Spruce definition of "glider tape"? I am guessing > that this is also used for sealing the tailplane pin holes. > > Thanks > > Will > > > William Daniell > > LONGPORT > > +57 310 295 0744 > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:06 AM, Bud Yerly wrote: > > Will, > > They are just an angle of about 3/8 inch. See your Operators manual Page > 9-5. To my knowledge the material was never supplied by Europa. > > Personally I use aluminum angle rather than fabricating a wood piece with > a 90 degree face and concave back. Simply put tape on the leading edge a nd > then set the angle on the tape, tape over it in place and go fly. If the > angle is right, and it does what you want, carefully remove some of the > tape, mark it and then transfer the marks to the wing and glue it on. I > use glider tape. I=99m lazy so I drill two holes right through the 90 degree > angle when on the bench and tape it on to test. Then when it is position ed > properly, I drill into the wing through the holes in the end. Pull the > tape, use the holes to align, fill the back of the angle with flox and > cleco or tape on the strip. Fill sand prime paint. You may want to angl e > the ends of the angle for less filling. > > > Fletner strips are 10 mm or 3/8 inch at the trailing edge when installed > but the strips come as wood wedges about 25mm by 5 mm taped together, if > that what you are thinking of rather than stall strips. > > > Regards, > > Bud Yerly > > > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list- > server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *William Daniell > *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2017 1:13 PM > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Europa-List: Somewhere over the last 12 years I lost my stall > strips > > > Dear List, > > I have lost my stall strips over the last 12 years of building. I seem t o > remember that the factory version was a five sided deal with about a 1/2 in > base. > > I see GA aircraft with just a 90 deg triangle on the Leading Edge. > > Does the profile of the stall strip matter that much? > > Thanks > > Will > > > William Daniell > > LONGPORT > > +57 310 295 0744 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.