---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/04/17: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:06 AM - Re: Mogas /94UL (tennant) 2. 01:58 AM - Re: Mogas /94UL (Roland) 3. 06:02 AM - Re: Owner's Manual Revisions page (Jerry Rehn) 4. 08:31 AM - Re: Mogas /94UL (Bill & Sue) 5. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: Mogas /94UL (Kevin Challis) 6. 03:09 PM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__Owner's_Manual_Revisions_page? () 7. 03:42 PM - gap between the wing fairings and the fuselage (William Daniell) 8. 04:04 PM - Re: gap between the wing fairings and the fuselage (Peter Timm) 9. 11:36 PM - Re: Mogas /94UL (tennant) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:23 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mogas /94UL From: "tennant" Nice map Roland. You can see that we have very few UL91 stations and we mostly fly on normal car petrol. Personally, if minus temps. or over 30deg C are possible I use Avgas. Barry -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466851#466851 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:58:00 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mogas /94UL From: "Roland" Hello Barry, my Rotax 914 is perfectly happy with 95 Octane Premium from the car station also >30C OAT and up to FL200. Must depend on the Rotax model . I well remember your story from Wershofen, when you had to change your pants after landing due to vapour-lock. Generally the Rotax doesn't like 100LL at all and I avoid it whenever possible. Incidentally - will you visit or exhibit at the AERO? Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466853#466853 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:55 AM PST US From: Jerry Rehn Subject: Re: Europa-List: Owner's Manual Revisions page http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/assistance/manuals.php Here's a link to the Europa builders manual. Should help. Jerry Sent from my iPad > On Mar 3, 2017, at 8:47 PM, wrot e: > > Good evening All, > > In the Owner=99s Manual, the first few pages with the table of conte nts is the page of Revisions to the Manual. There is only one printed. Are t here any revisions or changes made to this page since August 1998? Thanks fo r any input. > > Mike Duane > Las Vegas, NV, USA > Sent from Windows Mail > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:51 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mogas /94UL From: "Bill & Sue" Thanks to all for some very helpful information. After seeing the Total maps I did try to sign up for a Total card and received this, plus 6 attachments of forms and 'guidance'. Apart from wanting to sell me 100LL, it would seem from this they are not that keen on new customers, Oh well! To finalize your registration, thanks to return us: - The registration form here attached, fully filled, dated and signed, - A proof of transfer of the deposit to our bank account (details in the attached file RIB AVIATION GARANTIE.pdf) , - Your bank account details (a document certifying that the bank account belongs to you). The owner of the bank account must be the person mentioned in the contract. - The SEPA authorization. Fill particularly the IBAN/BIC field, date and sign. Please note that your bank might not accept SEPA. In this case, we wont be able to deliver you an Air Total Card, since payments are made by direct debit through SEPA. - A copy on both sides of your aircraft registration, mentioning the fuel requested (AVGAS 100 LL), - A copy on both sides of your ID Card or Passport, - A proof of address issued within the last 3 months (in the form of an original utility bill like gas, electricity, phone or council tax). Thanks to return all documents by mail, at the following address: TOTAL MARKETING FRANCE Direction aviation - Service Clients - Bureau A1322 24, Cours Michelet 92069 PARIS LA DEFENSE CEDEX - FRANCE Do not send by e-mail, as we need original documents to proceed to your registration (Plus a deposit of 200 !) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466859#466859 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:14 AM PST US From: Kevin Challis Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Mogas /94UL The total card makes such a difference. Refuel at any time (Self service) including lunch times! It makes traveling in France quick and easy. Once you have the Total card it's easy no extra forms every year. I know French bureaucracy is a little frustrating. I use AVGas when over there, I know it decreases time to overhaul but the 912S runs fine I thing mine runs a little better if anything. Kevin Challis G ODJG > On 4 Mar 2017, at 16:31, Bill & Sue wrote: > > > Thanks to all for some very helpful information. > After seeing the Total maps I did try to sign up for a Total card and received this, plus 6 attachments of forms and 'guidance'. Apart from wanting to sell me 100LL, it would seem from this they are not that keen on new customers, Oh well! > > > > > > > To finalize your registration, thanks to return us: > > > > - The registration form here attached, fully filled, dated and signed, > > - A proof of transfer of the deposit to our bank account (details in the attached file RIB AVIATION GARANTIE.pdf) , > > - Your bank account details (a document certifying that the bank account belongs to you). The owner of the bank account must be the person mentioned in the contract. > > - The SEPA authorization. Fill particularly the IBAN/BIC field, date and sign. > > Please note that your bank might not accept SEPA. In this case, we wont be able to deliver you an Air Total Card, since payments are made by direct debit through SEPA. > > - A copy on both sides of your aircraft registration, mentioning the fuel requested (AVGAS 100 LL), > > - A copy on both sides of your ID Card or Passport, > > - A proof of address issued within the last 3 months (in the form of an original utility bill like gas, electricity, phone or council tax). > > > > Thanks to return all documents by mail, at the following address: > > > > TOTAL MARKETING FRANCE > > Direction aviation - Service Clients - Bureau A1322 > > 24, Cours Michelet > > 92069 PARIS LA DEFENSE CEDEX - FRANCE > > > Do not send by e-mail, as we need original documents to proceed to your registration > > (Plus a deposit of 200 !) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466859#466859 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:46 PM PST US From: Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Europa-List:_Owner's_Manual_Revisions_page? 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The pressure difference between the top and underside of the Europa wing is even greater than on a glider , which makes proper sealing of the wing root very important. Since my Classic Europa is always hangared, I can leave the tape on for the flying season. Our airport is still covered with a foot of snow. Cheers, Peter Timm On 2017-03-04, at 3:41 PM, William Daniell wrote: > the manual mentions sealing the gap with silicone. > > is this the best method? > > thanks will ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:24 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mogas /94UL From: "tennant" Roland, Not at Aero this year. Barry -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466881#466881 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.