---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/12/17: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:59 AM - Re: Aileron balancing (Bob Harrison) 2. 01:33 AM - Re: MOD sheets? (Peter Jeffers) 3. 05:49 AM - Re: Aileron balancing (William Daniell) 4. 07:23 AM - Re: Aileron balancing (Bob Harrison) 5. 07:41 AM - Re: Aileron balancing (William Daniell) 6. 10:25 AM - Re: MOD sheets? (Neville Eyre) 7. 10:34 AM - Re: Aileron balancing (Bob Harrison) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:43 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Aileron balancing Hi! William . Have you painted them yet ? Regards Bob H G-PTAG From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Daniell Sent: 12 March 2017 01:39 Subject: Europa-List: Aileron balancing Dear all I drilled a 1/4 hole in each aileron weight with very little effect. The hinges are free amd i dont think im doing anything wrong. Is this normal? What next? 1/2" hole? Help please. Will No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 03/12/17 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:33:11 AM PST US From: "Peter Jeffers" Subject: RE: Europa-List: MOD sheets? Hi Clive, If you really want them I could email them to you but their applicability to your a/c is largely dependent upon whether your kit is classic or XS. I have left a voice message on your mobile with my phone number if you wish to talk about it. Pete Jeffers Europa Club LAA Inspector -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of clivesutton Sent: 11 March 2017 17:12 Subject: Europa-List: MOD sheets? --> Hi, on the final inspection prep run now and checking off each required MOD with the LAA list against what's on the a/c. But can't find anything on the EC or Europa websites for the following MOD's - Does anyone have/can send me, copies please? MOD 15 - FWD Lift Pin Fuselage Strengthening MOD 16 - Shock Absorber Block Shape MOD 17 - Rudder Pedal guides MOD46 - Pitch Torque Tube End Cap clive.maf@googlemail.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467178#467178 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:30 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: RE: Europa-List: Aileron balancing Yes i have Will On Mar 12, 2017 04:02, "Bob Harrison" wrote: > Hi! William . > > Have you painted them yet ? > > Regards > > Bob H G-PTAG > > > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list- > server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *William Daniell > *Sent:* 12 March 2017 01:39 > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Europa-List: Aileron balancing > > > Dear all > > > I drilled a 1/4 hole in each aileron weight with very little effect. The > hinges are free amd i dont think im doing anything wrong. > > > Is this normal? What next? 1/2" hole? > > > Help please. > > > Will > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 03/12/17 > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:25 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Aileron balancing William. If you were to compare the volume /weight removed between =C2=BC=9D hole to a =C2=BD=9D hole the difference would be huge. So small bits but often is the order of the plan. Then you have to fill the holes with some foam and glass it over and repaint . Quite a lot of patience needed to complete it ! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Daniell Sent: 12 March 2017 12:49 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Aileron balancing Yes i have Will On Mar 12, 2017 04:02, "Bob Harrison" wrote: Hi! William . Have you painted them yet ? Regards Bob H G-PTAG From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Daniell Sent: 12 March 2017 01:39 Subject: Europa-List: Aileron balancing Dear all I drilled a 1/4 hole in each aileron weight with very little effect. The hinges are free amd i dont think im doing anything wrong. Is this normal? What next? 1/2" hole? Help please. Will No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 03/12/17 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 03/12/17 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:26 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: RE: Europa-List: Aileron balancing Ok thanks...so from the pic in the manual we are talking level suspended from the hinge underside uppermost....right? Will On Mar 12, 2017 09:26, "Bob Harrison" wrote: > William. If you were to compare the volume /weight removed between =C2 =BC=9D > hole to a =C2=BD=9D hole the difference would be huge. So small bi ts but often is > the order of the plan. Then you have to fill the holes with some foam and > glass it over and repaint . Quite a lot of patience needed to complete i t ! > > Regards > > Bob Harrison G-PTAG > > > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list- > server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *William Daniell > *Sent:* 12 March 2017 12:49 > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: Europa-List: Aileron balancing > > > Yes i have > > Will > > > On Mar 12, 2017 04:02, "Bob Harrison" wrote: > > Hi! William . > > Have you painted them yet ? > > Regards > > Bob H G-PTAG > > > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list- > server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *William Daniell > *Sent:* 12 March 2017 01:39 > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Europa-List: Aileron balancing > > > Dear all > > > I drilled a 1/4 hole in each aileron weight with very little effect. The > hinges are free amd i dont think im doing anything wrong. > > > Is this normal? What next? 1/2" hole? > > > Help please. > > > Will > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 03/12/17 > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 03/12/17 > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:25:09 AM PST US From: Neville Eyre Subject: Re: Europa-List: MOD sheets? Hi Clive, Hope this goes through, my posts have gone MIA before Mod 15, the ''top hat'' lay up of 3 Bids over 3'' x 1/4'' blue foam, vertical from door sill to thigh support, centred over lift socket. Mod 16, original block was a rectangular ''brick'', needs a V cutting out of upper and lower faces [ bear to do, get a new one from Europa]. Mod 17, without my notes can't be sure, might be the 5/8'' tubes [CS31] Reduxed into the pedal pivot tubes ? Mod 46 Pitch torque tube originally had the solid bearings [ as per aileron control system] replaced with a spherical [ self aligning] bearing and beefier cap. All these were very early on. Tip, when you submit the paperwork to LaaLaaLand, list EVERY MOD, and mark as N/A as [ for instance] a Trigear application will be returned if the mono wheel block, Mod 16 hasn't been done..... DOH ! Cheers, Nev -----Original Message----- From: clivesutton Sent: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 19:55 Subject: Europa-List: MOD sheets? Hi, on the final inspection prep run now and checking off each required MOD with the LAA list against what's on the a/c. But can't find anything on the EC or Europa websites for the following MOD's - Does anyone have/can send me, copies please? MOD 15 - FWD Lift Pin Fuselage Strengthening MOD 16 - Shock Absorber Block Shape MOD 17 - Rudder Pedal guides MOD46 - Pitch Torque Tube End Cap clive.maf@googlemail.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467178#467178 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:17 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Aileron balancing Hi! William, I haven=99t a manual handy but that sounds about right . Regards Bob H From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Daniell Sent: 12 March 2017 14:39 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Aileron balancing Ok thanks...so from the pic in the manual we are talking level suspended from the hinge underside uppermost....right? Will On Mar 12, 2017 09:26, "Bob Harrison" wrote: William. If you were to compare the volume /weight removed between =C2=BC=9D hole to a =C2=BD=9D hole the difference would be huge. So small bits but often is the order of the plan. Then you have to fill the holes with some foam and glass it over and repaint . Quite a lot of patience needed to complete it ! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Daniell Sent: 12 March 2017 12:49 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Aileron balancing Yes i have Will On Mar 12, 2017 04:02, "Bob Harrison" wrote: Hi! William . Have you painted them yet ? Regards Bob H G-PTAG From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Daniell Sent: 12 March 2017 01:39 Subject: Europa-List: Aileron balancing Dear all I drilled a 1/4 hole in each aileron weight with very little effect. The hinges are free amd i dont think im doing anything wrong. Is this normal? What next? 1/2" hole? Help please. Will No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 03/12/17 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 03/12/17 No virus found in this message. 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