Europa-List Digest Archive

Wed 03/29/17


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 02:19 AM - Forward white light choice UK (jonathanmilbank)
     2. 03:46 AM - Re: Forward white light choice UK (Roland)
     3. 05:01 AM - Re: Forward white light choice UK (jonathanmilbank)
     4. 05:02 AM - Re: Forward white light choice UK (jonathanmilbank)
     5. 05:47 AM - Re: Forward white light choice UK (Roland)
     6. 06:04 AM - Re: Forward white light choice UK (jonathanmilbank)
     7. 10:28 AM - Re: Forward white light choice UK (graeme bird)
     8. 11:29 AM - Re: Forward white light choice UK (jonathanmilbank)
     9. 02:33 PM - Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit (n7188u)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:19:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Forward white light choice UK
    From: "jonathanmilbank" <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk>
    I'm thinking of installing a forward facing white light for conspicuity purposes and would appreciate your advice. It seems that LED is what I need to meet the requirements of low current drain, brightness and preferably small frontal area. It will never need to provide illumination for landing in poor daylight. While I'm sure that the choice is great in the USA, I'd rather not have to import and therefore I'm addressing my question to the UK pilot fraternity (and sorority as well). A friend advises me to avoid those LED lights which state that they can cope with a wide voltage range, due to having active electronics which might cause a little radio interference. Perhaps another factor is that the light should be a "softer" white than the extreme whiteness of some LEDs which might be less visible on a bright day. Maybe! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467785#467785


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    Time: 03:46:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Forward white light choice UK
    From: "Roland" <schmidtroland@web.de>
    Jonathan, I had a forward facing ACL installed in my XS-cowl just below the spinner. It costed me 370 Euro and worked for about one year. Replaced it with the same model and that broke after another year for whatever reason (the manufacturer suspected cooling issues, although it had a seperate cooling inlet). Now I changed to the other extreme and installed a conventional 20 W chinese-made model (4 LED without cooling inlet) for 8 Euro inclusive shipping(!) and this works flawlessly for half a year now - no interferences. Maybe I had just bad luck with the expensive one - maybe.... That said, I still think, that a forward facing ACL is a nice thing to have from a safety point of view. Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467787#467787


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    Time: 05:01:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Forward white light choice UK
    From: "jonathanmilbank" <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk>
    Roland, I'm very interested especially at 8 Euros. More details of suppliers please. Thanks, Jonathan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467789#467789


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    Time: 05:02:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Forward white light choice UK
    From: "jonathanmilbank" <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk>
    Roland, I'm very interested especially at 8 Euros. More details of suppliers please. Thanks, Jonathan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467790#467790


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    Time: 05:47:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Forward white light choice UK
    From: "Roland" <schmidtroland@web.de>
    I've installed this one now (integrated also between spinner and cooling inlet - see picture): https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01MECTX01/ref=pe_386171_37038021_TE_3p_dp_1 My ACL http://thiesen-electronics.com/en/index.php?page=lichter/acl3.html (also LED) sits on top of the fuselage behind the tank breathing pipes. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467796#467796 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/rigging_1_197.jpg


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    Time: 06:04:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Forward white light choice UK
    From: "jonathanmilbank" <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk>
    Many thanks Roland. I admire your enclosed trailer to accommodate a tri-gear Europa. Perhaps I'll modify my old enclosed trailer which was built for a mono-wheel. Jonathan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467797#467797


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    Time: 10:28:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Forward white light choice UK
    From: "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
    For UK, there seems to be only one approved MOD to fit a light 13072 (even though others are flying around), I submitted a MOD2 form to fit an LED one (a jeep light) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2Pcs-10W-Cree-LED-Off-road-Spot-Flash-Head-Light-Lamp-for-Bike-Car-Jeep-12V-32V-/261826855985 Which looks like my MX5 spot lights. However, I have rolled over and proposed to the LAA that it may be easier to do a repeat mod of 13072 than to get approval for a new lamp. There are a couple of others putting head light Mods through, one with lights in the outrigger brackets and another with the light embedded in the GRP under the air inlet. They are both at the MOD3 stage I believe. I have also put a MOD2 form in for own designed combined resin potted LED nav/stobe lights in the same form factor as the airworld strobes and a tail light on the tail wheel cross member. I havent heard anything back on these for a while. -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis ap, pflarm, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500 &amp; SD on Nexus, 280 hours &amp; 5 years on the Mono, 900 total g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467805#467805


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    Time: 11:29:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Forward white light choice UK
    From: "jonathanmilbank" <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk>
    Goodness! It haven't even occurred to me that mod approval would be needed for this. To my way of thinking, such a small addition should be between the owner and his inspector. Ah well, I'll just give up that ambition and hope that other aircraft see my strobe light in good time. In fact because my strobe's on top of the fin it should be visible in all azimuth directions, therefore the head lamp is superfluous provided that the strobe's bright enough, which mine isn't! So now the search is on to find the brightest and best value for money fin-mounted strobe. The Microavionics MM031 has my interest at the moment, but I'm open to other suggestions. Many thanks. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467807#467807


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    Time: 02:33:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit
    From: "n7188u" <chmgarb@gmail.com>
    Hello europa List members. My name is Chris Martin and new to the list (but not to homebuilt aircraft) I own a LongEZ and a Kolb Firestar II which I enjoy flying several times a week. I am exploring the purchase of a 2nd hand Europa XS Monowheel kit. The kit is advertised a complete with essentially no work done to it. I am thinking about flying my LEZ to go see it this weekend. I have always been attracted to the Europa. I fly gliders too so the prospect of at one point retrofitting glider wings is very attractive. The other plane I have been considering is the Zenith 650. But the first mission for this plane would be to fly with my kids on a side by side plane and possibly teach them how to fly (I am a CFI). I also want to fly from grass which I can't do in the LEZ. How good is the Europa for these roles? Last, if I go this weekend to see the kit, how can I check that it is complete? I read a couple of postings that indicated the factory doesn't have a list but some members of this forums do. Thanks for the help. Chris Martin Port Orange, FL USA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467812#467812




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