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Fri 03/31/17


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 12:56 AM - Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit (Roland)
     2. 02:14 AM - Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit (jonathanmilbank)
     3. 08:18 AM - Re: Re: Forward white light choice UK (david park)
     4. 01:49 PM - Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit (n7188u)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:56:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit
    From: "Roland" <schmidtroland@web.de>
    Chris, FWIW my XS began its life as a Mono, made its first flight in 2001 and was then converted into a Trigear and made its first flight as such in 2004 - no idea why ;-) Anyway - welcome to the community :-) Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467856#467856


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    Time: 02:14:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit
    From: "jonathanmilbank" <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk>
    Chris, With the Europa mono-wheel it's not a case of "if" but when you're going to suffer a ground-loop. This is much more likely on tar than on grass. I learned to fly in the military and have almost 300 hours total in the Harvard/AT6. Because they have differential brakes, crosswinds aren't much of a problem. Later in life I built my Europa as a mono and flew it like that for over 600 hours, sharing the joys of such a wonderful aircraft with a couple of friends. One of them was the country's senior gliding instructor examiner at the time, plus having experience of other tail-wheel aircraft. After flying my Europa for more than 10 years and while landing on our tar runway, he suffered a ground-loop in light crosswind conditions. He couldn't account for this and my guess is that there might have been a slight moment of inattention. Perhaps the main difference between the mono Europa and gliders is the much shorter wings with far less inertia than gliders. I would describe the Europa mono as "squirrelly" by comparison. You have to react instantaneously to any yaw deviations, especially during landings. Another one of my friends also suffered a ground-loop in almost nil wind conditions maybe for the same reason, so I eventually decided to get rid of my anxiety each time friends took charge of the Europa and converted to tricycle configuration. This conversion is very much more difficult after the aircraft has already been built as a mono. In my experience the loss of speed in the cruise after the conversion was less than 5 knots, but there was an increase in empty weight of 35 lbs. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467857#467857


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    Time: 08:18:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Forward white light choice UK
    From: david park <dpark748@icloud.com>
    Roland, Is your trailer home built from plans? Or from comercial builder? Regards Dave G-LDVO Dave Park > On 29 Mar 2017, at 13:46, Roland <schmidtroland@web.de> wrote: > > > I've installed this one now (integrated also between spinner and cooling inlet - see picture): https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01MECTX01/ref=pe_386171_37038021_TE_3p_dp_1 > > My ACL http://thiesen-electronics.com/en/index.php?page=lichter/acl3.html (also LED) sits on top of the fuselage behind the tank breathing pipes. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467796#467796 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/rigging_1_197.jpg > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:49:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit
    From: "n7188u" <chmgarb@gmail.com>
    Thanks to all again for the informative replies. Well, there is doubt in my mind that the mono is challenging and the conversion to tri is to be seriously considered. This discussion reminds me of what you read regarding the landings in the U2 aircraft :) Anyway, maybe the Europa mono is a little more challenging in crosswinds than a glider simply because you can't drop a wing while riding on the main. But obviously there are limits to crosswinds you can handle even in gliders. BTW, I do fly from asphalt and crosswinds can be common but high winds are only common in this time of the year. Can't wait to go to SnF next week and meet some of the Europa flyers! Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467883#467883




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