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Subject: | seat base foam blocks |
Ditto!
Brian, G-DDBD
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Sent: 01 April 2017 20:51
Subject: Re: Europa-List: seat base foam blocks
Rowland, My naked blue foam blocks have survived perfectly for 15 yrs!
Don't add unecessary weight!
Regards, David, GXSDJ
On 2017-04-01 20:03, Rowland Carson wrote:
<rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
Way back in chapter 17 of the manual, there was a paragraph thus:
"Using scrap blue foam, make up spacers to fill the areas each side of
the control tunnels, so that a flat surface results for the seat pans"
I've carved foam blocks that fit nicely in the recesses but I feel that
bare blue foam is a bit prone to damage. I'm inclined to coat each block
in a single layer of BID (with flox corners and all that good stuff).
Yes, it will add a bit of weight, but I think it might prevent the need
to re-make the packing blocks after some time in service.
Has anyone else any thoughts about the advisability or otherwise of this
course of action?
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit |
The Mono vs Trigear debate could go on for ever and there is no clear
winner. Here is my take on it for what it is worth.
I built my Europa as a Mono. Prior to flying it I had about 15 hours
tailwheel experience in a J3 Cub. I would describe myself as only an
average pilot who has work to stay sharp and current. I received expert
conversion training and then flew some 20 hours of the most challenging
and enjoyable kind. I then got too confident and tried to land on
tarmac with a 90 degree 5-10 knot crosswind. It got away from me but
the runway was 45 metres wide so no real drama. Just as the aircraft
was coming to a stop at 90 degrees to the runway heading and with the
wind now up my tail I touched the brakes and it tipped on its nose .
The cost was three new Airmaster blades and an overhauled hub. It was
my fault, not the aircraft. The lesson I learned was- you can never
relax with a Mono- you must always keep on top of it. Once you get
below a certain speed if you are still out of shape you become a
passenger because you have no differential braking to save the day.
I considered my situation and decided the Mono was great fun but I
wanted to do some European touring and felt I would enjoy it more with a
Trigear so I converted. With the speed kit fitted it is probably 5
knots slower but I don=99t notice that. Once in the air I cannot
tell the difference between the two configurations. I have never
regretted my decision to convert but if asked I would always advise
someone building a Mono to go for it and enjoy the challenge. Yes,
conversion is much harder than going Tri during the build but handling
a Mono is one of those flying experiences that should not be missed.
Brian Davies G-DDBD
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete
Sent: 01 April 2017 23:08
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit
Fwiw, I had the generous opportunity to fly with Tim in his fine Mono a
few years back, and didn't notice any strange handling issues - in fact
he showed me two landings to prove it :) I did't get the impression it
was any busier than a normal taildragger either. Thanks again Tim! I
had the same observations on my other three mono demo flights. For sure
it would have different techniques with the outriggers than a 'normal'
taildragger, but nothing that couldn't be easily learned. Up here in
canada, the young air cadets train on gliders without disaster. I for
sure will build mine as a mono, as the mono's attributes are what
attracted me to the plane in the first place, and the entire structure
is based on the compact and efficient design. For sure it is less busy
on the ground than my short coupled and inadequate tailed hummelbird :-)
That said, the tri "gold rush" that is for sale would be the most
economical way to get into a europa (the current north american resale
values for europas has plummeted, simply due to their sparse numbers,
and fickle NA flyers preference to match hole sonex's and RV's).
So far i have not yet flown another type that is so beautifully
harmonized, stable and yet responsive. DD did his homework well! I still
love this design this 19 years after i first did my research.
Cheers and blue skies,
Pete
C-IPWZ (not a europa ;)
On Apr 1, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Pete Lawless <pete@lawless.info> wrote:
Hi Ira
I agree totally with Tim. In fact in the last 15 years since my mono
has been flying I have never noticed any tendency to tip the nose down
on braking regardless of the G of G.
You just need soft hands on the ailerons to keep the wings level. If
you over control and push the outrigger into the surface then it affects
the C of G, unloads the tail wheel and a ground loop is waiting to
happen.
Having owned a share in a Cub I think the mono is neither harder nor
easier just different.
Pete
G-RMAC #109
On 01/04/17 18:15, houlihan tim wrote:
Hi Ira
"Prop strikes on Mono's are common". What makes you say that ?
In the UK there is no noticeable difference between aircraft insurance
premiums for tri gear and mono, which tells you something .
Sure if you brake hard while turning you can upset things but the
accident rate is very similar for both types.
I have had my 912 mono classic flying for 15 years now and yes I broke a
prop ( only once) but as I attempted to land rounding out about ten feet
too high I blame the pilot (me) not the configuration , indeed in a
similar situation a tri gear would not only have damaged the prop but
also the nosewheel.
Better pilots than me have described the mono as no more difficult to
operate than a piper cub, Having only been a passenger in a cub I cannot
give an opinion on that.
The mono is a tail wheel aeroplane and behaves like one,
regards
Tim
G-BZTH
On 01 April 2017 at 17:30 rampil <mailto:ira.rampil@gmail.com>
<ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
<mailto:ira.rampil@gmail.com> <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
To further your consideration, the mono wheel also has a spinny thing
on the front end which is absent from most gliders. Prop strikes are
also
common with monowheels. Depending on you CG loading, a tap on
the brake might just rock you forward! Fortunately (if one can say
that in this context), the combination of carbon fiber prop and
Rotax gear box usually prevents expensive engine damage.
--------
Ira N224XS
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Subject: | Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit |
Interesting example....thx for sharing. Did the tail rise because of downwin
d full aft stick? Im confused why you were pointing downwind and not weather
-cocked into the wind ( which i would have thought would have ben the planes
natural tendency)?
Cheers and thx,
Pete
> On Apr 2, 2017, at 4:56 AM, Brian Davies <brian.davies@clara.co.uk> wrote:
>
> The Mono vs Trigear debate could go on for ever and there is no clear winn
er. Here is my take on it for what it is worth.
>
> I built my Europa as a Mono. Prior to flying it I had about 15 hours tail
wheel experience in a J3 Cub. I would describe myself as only an average pi
lot who has work to stay sharp and current. I received expert conversion tra
ining and then flew some 20 hours of the most challenging and enjoyable kind
. I then got too confident and tried to land on tarmac with a 90 degree 5-1
0 knot crosswind. It got away from me but the runway was 45 metres wide so n
o real drama. Just as the aircraft was coming to a stop at 90 degrees to th
e runway heading and with the wind now up my tail I touched the brakes and i
t tipped on its nose . The cost was three new Airmaster blades and an overh
auled hub. It was my fault, not the aircraft. The lesson I learned was- yo
u can never relax with a Mono- you must always keep on top of it. Once you g
et below a certain speed if you are still out of shape you become a passenge
r because you have no differential braking to save the day.
>
> I considered my situation and decided the Mono was great fun but I wanted t
o do some European touring and felt I would enjoy it more with a Trigear so I
converted. With the speed kit fitted it is probably 5 knots slower but I d
on=99t notice that. Once in the air I cannot tell the difference betw
een the two configurations. I have never regretted my decision to convert b
ut if asked I would always advise someone building a Mono to go for it and e
njoy the challenge. Yes, conversion is much harder than going Tri during th
e build but handling a Mono is one of those flying experiences that should n
ot be missed.
>
> Brian Davies G-DDBD
>
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-ser
ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete
> Sent: 01 April 2017 23:08
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit
>
> Fwiw, I had the generous opportunity to fly with Tim in his fine Mono a fe
w years back, and didn't notice any strange handling issues - in fact he sho
wed me two landings to prove it :) I did't get the impression it was any bu
sier than a normal taildragger either. Thanks again Tim! I had the same ob
servations on my other three mono demo flights. For sure it would have diffe
rent techniques with the outriggers than a 'normal' taildragger, but nothing
that couldn't be easily learned. Up here in canada, the young air cadets t
rain on gliders without disaster. I for sure will build mine as a mono, as t
he mono's attributes are what attracted me to the plane in the first place, a
nd the entire structure is based on the compact and efficient design. For su
re it is less busy on the ground than my short coupled and inadequate tailed
hummelbird :-)
>
> That said, the tri "gold rush" that is for sale would be the most economic
al way to get into a europa (the current north american resale values for eu
ropas has plummeted, simply due to their sparse numbers, and fickle NA flyer
s preference to match hole sonex's and RV's).
>
> So far i have not yet flown another type that is so beautifully harmonized
, stable and yet responsive. DD did his homework well! I still love this des
ign this 19 years after i first did my research.
>
> Cheers and blue skies,
> Pete
> C-IPWZ (not a europa ;)
>
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Pete Lawless <pete@lawless.info> wrote:
>
> Hi Ira
>
> I agree totally with Tim. In fact in the last 15 years since my mono has b
een flying I have never noticed any tendency to tip the nose down on braking
regardless of the G of G.
>
> You just need soft hands on the ailerons to keep the wings level. If you o
ver control and push the outrigger into the surface then it affects the C o
f G, unloads the tail wheel and a ground loop is waiting to happen.
>
> Having owned a share in a Cub I think the mono is neither harder nor easie
r just different.
>
> Pete
>
> G-RMAC #109
>
>
> On 01/04/17 18:15, houlihan tim wrote:
> Hi Ira
>
> "Prop strikes on Mono's are common". What makes you say that ?
>
> In the UK there is no noticeable difference between aircraft insurance pre
miums for tri gear and mono, which tells you something .
>
> Sure if you brake hard while turning you can upset things but the accident
rate is very similar for both types.
>
> I have had my 912 mono classic flying for 15 years now and yes I broke a p
rop ( only once) but as I attempted to land rounding out about ten feet too h
igh I blame the pilot (me) not the configuration , indeed in a similar situa
tion a tri gear would not only have damaged the prop but also the nosewheel.
>
> Better pilots than me have described the mono as no more difficult to oper
ate than a piper cub, Having only been a passenger in a cub I cannot give an
opinion on that.
>
> The mono is a tail wheel aeroplane and behaves like one,
>
> regards
>
> Tim
>
> G-BZTH
>
>
>
>
>
> On 01 April 2017 at 17:30 rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> To further your consideration, the mono wheel also has a spinny thing
> on the front end which is absent from most gliders. Prop strikes are also
> common with monowheels. Depending on you CG loading, a tap on
> the brake might just rock you forward! Fortunately (if one can say
> that in this context), the combination of carbon fiber prop and
> Rotax gear box usually prevents expensive engine damage.
>
> --------
> Ira N224XS
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467914#467914
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit |
Yes, the natural tendency started the event but I was late correcting
and then over controlled and ended up pointing in the other direction.
Not sure why the tail lifted but probably the combination of a tail wind
and brakes.
Brian
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete
Sent: 02 April 2017 14:16
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit
Interesting example....thx for sharing. Did the tail rise because of
downwind full aft stick? Im confused why you were pointing downwind and
not weather-cocked into the wind ( which i would have thought would have
ben the planes natural tendency)?
Cheers and thx,
Pete
On Apr 2, 2017, at 4:56 AM, Brian Davies <brian.davies@clara.co.uk>
wrote:
The Mono vs Trigear debate could go on for ever and there is no clear
winner. Here is my take on it for what it is worth.
I built my Europa as a Mono. Prior to flying it I had about 15 hours
tailwheel experience in a J3 Cub. I would describe myself as only an
average pilot who has work to stay sharp and current. I received expert
conversion training and then flew some 20 hours of the most challenging
and enjoyable kind. I then got too confident and tried to land on
tarmac with a 90 degree 5-10 knot crosswind. It got away from me but
the runway was 45 metres wide so no real drama. Just as the aircraft
was coming to a stop at 90 degrees to the runway heading and with the
wind now up my tail I touched the brakes and it tipped on its nose .
The cost was three new Airmaster blades and an overhauled hub. It was
my fault, not the aircraft. The lesson I learned was- you can never
relax with a Mono- you must always keep on top of it. Once you get
below a certain speed if you are still out of shape you become a
passenger because you have no differential braking to save the day.
I considered my situation and decided the Mono was great fun but I
wanted to do some European touring and felt I would enjoy it more with a
Trigear so I converted. With the speed kit fitted it is probably 5
knots slower but I don=99t notice that. Once in the air I cannot
tell the difference between the two configurations. I have never
regretted my decision to convert but if asked I would always advise
someone building a Mono to go for it and enjoy the challenge. Yes,
conversion is much harder than going Tri during the build but handling
a Mono is one of those flying experiences that should not be missed.
Brian Davies G-DDBD
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete
Sent: 01 April 2017 23:08
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit
Fwiw, I had the generous opportunity to fly with Tim in his fine Mono a
few years back, and didn't notice any strange handling issues - in fact
he showed me two landings to prove it :) I did't get the impression it
was any busier than a normal taildragger either. Thanks again Tim! I
had the same observations on my other three mono demo flights. For sure
it would have different techniques with the outriggers than a 'normal'
taildragger, but nothing that couldn't be easily learned. Up here in
canada, the young air cadets train on gliders without disaster. I for
sure will build mine as a mono, as the mono's attributes are what
attracted me to the plane in the first place, and the entire structure
is based on the compact and efficient design. For sure it is less busy
on the ground than my short coupled and inadequate tailed hummelbird :-)
That said, the tri "gold rush" that is for sale would be the most
economical way to get into a europa (the current north american resale
values for europas has plummeted, simply due to their sparse numbers,
and fickle NA flyers preference to match hole sonex's and RV's).
So far i have not yet flown another type that is so beautifully
harmonized, stable and yet responsive. DD did his homework well! I still
love this design this 19 years after i first did my research.
Cheers and blue skies,
Pete
C-IPWZ (not a europa ;)
On Apr 1, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Pete Lawless <pete@lawless.info> wrote:
Hi Ira
I agree totally with Tim. In fact in the last 15 years since my mono
has been flying I have never noticed any tendency to tip the nose down
on braking regardless of the G of G.
You just need soft hands on the ailerons to keep the wings level. If
you over control and push the outrigger into the surface then it affects
the C of G, unloads the tail wheel and a ground loop is waiting to
happen.
Having owned a share in a Cub I think the mono is neither harder nor
easier just different.
Pete
G-RMAC #109
On 01/04/17 18:15, houlihan tim wrote:
Hi Ira
"Prop strikes on Mono's are common". What makes you say that ?
In the UK there is no noticeable difference between aircraft insurance
premiums for tri gear and mono, which tells you something .
Sure if you brake hard while turning you can upset things but the
accident rate is very similar for both types.
I have had my 912 mono classic flying for 15 years now and yes I broke a
prop ( only once) but as I attempted to land rounding out about ten feet
too high I blame the pilot (me) not the configuration , indeed in a
similar situation a tri gear would not only have damaged the prop but
also the nosewheel.
Better pilots than me have described the mono as no more difficult to
operate than a piper cub, Having only been a passenger in a cub I cannot
give an opinion on that.
The mono is a tail wheel aeroplane and behaves like one,
regards
Tim
G-BZTH
On 01 April 2017 at 17:30 rampil <mailto:ira.rampil@gmail.com>
<ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
<mailto:ira.rampil@gmail.com> <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
To further your consideration, the mono wheel also has a spinny thing
on the front end which is absent from most gliders. Prop strikes are
also
common with monowheels. Depending on you CG loading, a tap on
the brake might just rock you forward! Fortunately (if one can say
that in this context), the combination of carbon fiber prop and
Rotax gear box usually prevents expensive engine damage.
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467914#467914
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Subject: | Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit |
Brian/Pete, I suspect the explanation is that if you brake whilst
turning there is a very strong tendency to ground loop since the C of G
is behind the main wheel, which acts like a pivot. A tail wind would
aggravate the tendency to ground loop. Once into a ground loop the plane
'trips over',the wheel and touches the outer wing tip on the ground
(compressing that outrigger in the process) and also touches the
propeller on the ground. The moral is to NEVER EVER brake in a mono
unless you are going in a straight line - better to run off the runway
in general if you are in that situation where wind or over controlling
or whatever has left you turning towards the edge of the runway.
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
On 2017-04-02 19:03, Brian Davies wrote:
> Yes, the natural tendency started the event but I was late correcting and then
over controlled and ended up pointing in the other direction. Not sure why the
tail lifted but probably the combination of a tail wind and brakes.
>
> Brian
>
> FROM: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] ON BEHALF OF Pete
> SENT: 02 April 2017 14:16
> TO: europa-list@matronics.com
> SUBJECT: Re: Europa-List: Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit
>
> Interesting example....thx for sharing. Did the tail rise because of downwind
full aft stick? Im confused why you were pointing downwind and not weather-cocked
into the wind ( which i would have thought would have ben the planes natural
tendency)?
>
> Cheers and thx,
>
> Pete
>
> On Apr 2, 2017, at 4:56 AM, Brian Davies <brian.davies@clara.co.uk> wrote:
>
> The Mono vs Trigear debate could go on for ever and there is no clear winner.
Here is my take on it for what it is worth.
>
> I built my Europa as a Mono. Prior to flying it I had about 15 hours tailwheel
experience in a J3 Cub. I would describe myself as only an average pilot who
has work to stay sharp and current. I received expert conversion training and
then flew some 20 hours of the most challenging and enjoyable kind. I then got
too confident and tried to land on tarmac with a 90 degree 5-10 knot crosswind.
It got away from me but the runway was 45 metres wide so no real drama. Just
as the aircraft was coming to a stop at 90 degrees to the runway heading and
with the wind now up my tail I touched the brakes and it tipped on its nose
. The cost was three new Airmaster blades and an overhauled hub. It was my fault,
not the aircraft. The lesson I learned was- you can never relax with a Mono-
you must always keep on top of it. Once you get below a certain speed if you
are still out of shape you become a passenger because you have no differential
braking to save the day.
>
> I considered my situation and decided the Mono was great fun but I wanted to
do some European touring and felt I would enjoy it more with a Trigear so I converted.
With the speed kit fitted it is probably 5 knots slower but I don't notice
that. Once in the air I cannot tell the difference between the two configurations.
I have never regretted my decision to convert but if asked I would
always advise someone building a Mono to go for it and enjoy the challenge. Yes,
conversion is much harder than going Tri during the build but handling a Mono
is one of those flying experiences that should not be missed.
>
> Brian Davies G-DDBD
>
> FROM: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] ON BEHALF OF Pete
> SENT: 01 April 2017 23:08
> TO: europa-list@matronics.com
> SUBJECT: Re: Europa-List: Re: Considering the purchase of a 2nd hand kit
>
> Fwiw, I had the generous opportunity to fly with Tim in his fine Mono a few years
back, and didn't notice any strange handling issues - in fact he showed me
two landings to prove it :) I did't get the impression it was any busier than
a normal taildragger either. Thanks again Tim! I had the same observations on
my other three mono demo flights. For sure it would have different techniques
with the outriggers than a 'normal' taildragger, but nothing that couldn't be
easily learned. Up here in canada, the young air cadets train on gliders without
disaster. I for sure will build mine as a mono, as the mono's attributes
are what attracted me to the plane in the first place, and the entire structure
is based on the compact and efficient design. For sure it is less busy on the
ground than my short coupled and inadequate tailed hummelbird :-)
>
> That said, the tri "gold rush" that is for sale would be the most economical
way to get into a europa (the current north american resale values for europas
has plummeted, simply due to their sparse numbers, and fickle NA flyers preference
to match hole sonex's and RV's).
>
> So far i have not yet flown another type that is so beautifully harmonized, stable
and yet responsive. DD did his homework well! I still love this design this
19 years after i first did my research.
>
> Cheers and blue skies,
>
> Pete
>
> C-IPWZ (not a europa ;)
>
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Pete Lawless <pete@lawless.info> wrote:
>
> Hi Ira
>
> I agree totally with Tim. In fact in the last 15 years since my mono has been
flying I have never noticed any tendency to tip the nose down on braking regardless
of the G of G.
>
> You just need soft hands on the ailerons to keep the wings level. If you over
control and push the outrigger into the surface then it affects the C of G, unloads
the tail wheel and a ground loop is waiting to happen.
>
> Having owned a share in a Cub I think the mono is neither harder nor easier just
different.
>
> Pete
>
> G-RMAC #109
>
> On 01/04/17 18:15, houlihan tim wrote:
>
> Hi Ira
>
> "Prop strikes on Mono's are common". What makes you say that ?
>
> In the UK there is no noticeable difference between aircraft insurance premiums
for tri gear and mono, which tells you something .
>
> Sure if you brake hard while turning you can upset things but the accident rate
is very similar for both types.
>
> I have had my 912 mono classic flying for 15 years now and yes I broke a prop
( only once) but as I attempted to land rounding out about ten feet too high
I blame the pilot (me) not the configuration , indeed in a similar situation a
tri gear would not only have damaged the prop but also the nosewheel.
>
> Better pilots than me have described the mono as no more difficult to operate
than a piper cub, Having only been a passenger in a cub I cannot give an opinion
on that.
>
> The mono is a tail wheel aeroplane and behaves like one,
>
> regards
>
> Tim
>
> G-BZTH
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> On 01 April 2017 at 17:30 rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
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> To further your consideration, the mono wheel also has a spinny thing
> on the front end which is absent from most gliders. Prop strikes are also
> common with monowheels. Depending on you CG loading, a tap on
> the brake might just rock you forward! Fortunately (if one can say
> that in this context), the combination of carbon fiber prop and
> Rotax gear box usually prevents expensive engine damage.
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> Ira N224XS
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just in case anyone is interested; Lee on Solent - don't know why I haven't dropped
in there before
https://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=103660
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis
ap, pflarm, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500 & SD on Nexus,
280 hours & 5 years on the Mono, 900 total
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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Subject: | Re: trip with pics |
Great pics! Nice to be able to sail in april :-)
Pity you don't have any gopro type video of your trips....would be truly motivational
:)
Cheers and thx for posting,
Pete
> On Apr 2, 2017, at 4:56 PM, graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:
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> just in case anyone is interested; Lee on Solent - don't know why I haven't dropped
in there before
> https://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=103660
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> Graeme Bird
> G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis
ap, pflarm, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500 & SD on Nexus,
> 280 hours & 5 years on the Mono, 900 total
> g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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Subject: | Re: Forward white light choice UK |
Hello Dave,
my trailer is commercial built http://www.anschau.de/english-version/
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS TG 914
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Hello all. I will have to move my aircraft soon to take it to get the interior
fitted but have no means of moving it. Is there anyone in the Kent area who has
an enclosed trailer they wouldn't mind loaning me? My aircraft is a mono wheel
but has a dolly attached which makes it stand by its self
Many thanks Frank
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