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1. 02:58 AM - Maintenance Schedule (Kingsley Hurst)
2. 04:32 AM - Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? (clivesutton)
3. 05:08 AM - Re: Maintenance Schedule (David Watts)
4. 05:10 AM - Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? (Pete)
5. 06:03 AM - Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? (clivesutton)
6. 06:03 AM - Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? (clivesutton)
7. 07:19 AM - Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - =?UTF-8?Q?experience/advice=3F? (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
8. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? (Alan Twigg)
9. 07:58 AM - Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? (clivesutton)
10. 08:11 AM - Re: Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? (Alan Twigg)
11. 11:07 AM - Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? (Fred Klein)
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| Subject: | Maintenance Schedule |
Is anyone able to advise me if Europa have ever published an ongoing
Maintenance Schedule in respect of the airframe?
Failing that, does anyone in the UK or USA have a Maintenance Schedule that
is approved by their respective authority and which they would be prepared
to share please?
Regards
Kingsley in Oz.
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| Subject: | Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? |
I have an open Mono trailer and I'm trying to put measures in place to ensure that
if it broke down (rather than the towing car), it could be repaired/recovered
Several breakdown agencies specifically say they won't recover if it is the trailer
that breaks down, not the towing vehicle
Does anyone have any steer on solutions please?
Or have experiences/advice to share based on their own experience?
Clive S
G-YETI
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| Subject: | Re: Maintenance Schedule |
Hi Kingsley,
The maintenance schedule is in the owners manual which you can download from the
Europa factory or Europa Club websites.
Dave Watts
G-BXDY Classic Mono
> On 8 Apr 2017, at 10:56, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wrote:
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> Is anyone able to advise me if Europa have ever published an ongoing Maintenance
Schedule in respect of the airframe?
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> Failing that, does anyone in the UK or USA have a Maintenance Schedule that is
approved by their respective authority and which they would be prepared to share
please?
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> Regards
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> Kingsley in Oz.
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| Subject: | Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? |
It's a pity the question is not for the north american folks.... as here we have
a Recreational Vehicle club (Good Sam) which offers full coverage for a reasonable
yearly fee ($80/yr) which includes trailers and tow vehicles even when
100's of miles away from a service station.
Cheers,
Pete
Cheers,
Pete
> On Apr 8, 2017, at 7:32 AM, clivesutton <clive.maf@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> I have an open Mono trailer and I'm trying to put measures in place to ensure
that if it broke down (rather than the towing car), it could be repaired/recovered
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> Several breakdown agencies specifically say they won't recover if it is the trailer
that breaks down, not the towing vehicle
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> Does anyone have any steer on solutions please?
> Or have experiences/advice to share based on their own experience?
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> Clive S
> G-YETI
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| Subject: | Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? |
Thanks Pete,
The main issue here in the UK is that if the towing vehicle breaks down, a recovery
service will help you: either fix the vehicle, or to tow it and its trailer
to home or a service depot.
But if a hub or some part of the trailer structure breaks, the assistance is very
muddy, some help, some won't.
Not much help with a 45k trailer and a/c sat at the side of the Motorway . . .
I'm hoping the Europa fraternity can offer some stories and/or useful advice about
who to choose for UK/Europe recovery service, and who to avoid.
regards,
Clive.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468144#468144
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| Subject: | Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? |
Thanks Pete,
The main issue here in the UK is that if the towing vehicle breaks down, a recovery
service will help you: either fix the vehicle, or to tow it and its trailer
to home or a service depot.
But if a hub or some part of the trailer structure breaks, the assistance is very
muddy, some help, some won't.
Not much help with a 45k trailer and a/c sat at the side of the Motorway . . .
I'm hoping the Europa fraternity can offer some stories and/or useful advice about
who to choose for UK/Europe recovery service, and who to avoid.
regards,
Clive.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468145#468145
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| Subject: | Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - =?UTF-8?Q?experience/advice=3F? |
Clive, I have been towing my plane for 15 yrs, initially with an open
Europa trailer but for something longer than 10 yrs with a covered one.
I did have a problem with the Europa trailer where the webbing
supporting the wing broke, but I didn't discover that until I got to
where I was going. Otherwise I have had 3 punctures and no other issues.
(The punctures probably related to old semi perished tyres!). So my
advice would be to carry a spare wheel and the wherewithal to change it
( and if you have a twin axle trailer, a 3" deep bit of wood with a
tapered end will let you get the good wheel raised far enough to get the
punctured one off the ground). Otherwise a trailer is so simple that
mechanical problems are so unlikely that I would feel it is not worth
spending anything to insure against them. If you should have a seized
bearing or whatever, then simply shell out a part of what you have saved
on insurance by getting help from a local garage. Basically insurance
isn't worth it if you can afford the loss - for sure they are making a
profit out of you!)
Regards, David (Joyce, G-XSDJ)
On 2017-04-08 12:32, clivesutton wrote:
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> I have an open Mono trailer and I'm trying to put measures in place to ensure
that if it broke down (rather than the towing car), it could be repaired/recovered
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> Several breakdown agencies specifically say they won't recover if it is the trailer
that breaks down, not the towing vehicle
>
> Does anyone have any steer on solutions please?
> Or have experiences/advice to share based on their own experience?
>
> Clive S
> G-YETI
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468141#468141 [1]
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| Subject: | Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? |
A chap called Adam Berisford has started a full recovery service, he is based
in the South West and offers an insurance type scheme, if you are interested I
will put you in touch.
Alan Twigg
Mono Motorglider
Trim in, wings in paint.
Sent from my iPhone
> On 8 Apr 2017, at 14:02, clivesutton <clive.maf@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks Pete,
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> The main issue here in the UK is that if the towing vehicle breaks down, a recovery
service will help you: either fix the vehicle, or to tow it and its trailer
to home or a service depot.
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> But if a hub or some part of the trailer structure breaks, the assistance is
very muddy, some help, some won't.
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> Not much help with a 45k trailer and a/c sat at the side of the Motorway . .
.
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> I'm hoping the Europa fraternity can offer some stories and/or useful advice
about who to choose for UK/Europe recovery service, and who to avoid.
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> regards,
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> Clive.
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| Subject: | Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? |
Hi Alan,
Yes please . . .
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? |
Clive I have sent your ail address to Adam by text as I do not have his email at
home.
Alan
Sent from my iPhone
> On 8 Apr 2017, at 15:58, clivesutton <clive.maf@googlemail.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Trailer Breakdown Recovery - experience/advice? |
> I have an open Mono trailer and I'm trying to put measures in place to
ensure that if it broke down (rather than the towing car), it could be
repaired/recovered
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> Several breakdown agencies specifically say they won't recover if it
is the trailer that breaks down, not the towing vehicle
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> Does anyone have any steer on solutions please?
Clive=85I share your concerns=85for starters, my plan is to add a second
pair of trailer wheels similar to what Raimo Toivio has successfully
done=85I=92ve seem some sweet little torsion-bar units online which seem
quite suitable=85F.
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