Europa-List Digest Archive

Tue 04/18/17


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:31 AM - Empty Weight (flyingphil2)
     2. 03:56 AM - Re: Empty Weight (Steven Pitt)
     3. 06:28 AM - Re: Empty Weight (Robert Borger)
     4. 07:04 AM - Europa Monowheel, outrigger parts, inc support fitting, eBay (G-ODTW)
     5. 09:15 AM - Re: Empty Weight (Rick Moss)
     6. 10:47 AM - Re: Empty Weight (jonathanmilbank)
     7. 11:11 AM - Exhaust springs (Richard Iddon)
     8. 11:15 AM - Re: Empty Weight (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
     9. 11:48 AM - Re: Exhaust springs (david park)
    10. 02:11 PM - C04 water pipe query (Rowland Carson)
    11. 02:26 PM - Re: C04 water pipe query (david park)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:31:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Empty Weight
    From: "flyingphil2" <flyingphil627-europastuff@yahoo.co.uk>
    Hi, I would like to canvas opinion of what is a good or low empty weight for a Europa XS tri-gear. Would anyone be willing to share their empty weights with me (mono XS owners welcome)? Feel free to PM if you don't want to share the info on the forum. Thanks, Phil Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468578#468578


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    Time: 03:56:42 AM PST US
    From: Steven Pitt <stevenwpitt@me.com>
    Subject: Re: Empty Weight
    876lbs at last count Steve Pitt Sent from my iPhone > On 18 Apr 2017, at 11:30, flyingphil2 <flyingphil627-europastuff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > Hi, > > I would like to canvas opinion of what is a good or low empty weight for a Europa XS tri-gear. Would anyone be willing to share their empty weights with me (mono XS owners welcome)? Feel free to PM if you don't want to share the info on the forum. > > Thanks, > > Phil > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468578#468578 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:28:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Empty Weight
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Phil, My ex-mono, converted to tri is 913 lbs empty @ 59.3 in. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Apr 18, 2017, at 5:30 AM, flyingphil2 <flyingphil627-europastuff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi, I would like to canvas opinion of what is a good or low empty weight for a Europa XS tri-gear. Would anyone be willing to share their empty weights with me (mono XS owners welcome)? Feel free to PM if you don't want to share the info on the forum. Thanks, Phil


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    Time: 07:04:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Europa Monowheel, outrigger parts, inc support fitting, eBay
    From: "G-ODTW" <dave@robotas.co.uk>
    I spotted these. Just in case anyone is in need! Europa Monowheel, outrigger parts, inc support fitting, repair bushes, brand new parts, new/old stock, Finishes 18 Apr, 2017 18:51:11 BST) 25 -------- David Walters 01474 816817 dave@robotas.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468585#468585


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    Time: 09:15:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Empty Weight
    From: "Rick Moss" <Rkwmoss@gmail.com>
    878lbs (or 397.5kg in my preferred units) with spats, cushions and everything else actually used for flight. XS Trigear (and built as such) with 912S and Airmaster CS prop. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468586#468586


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    Time: 10:47:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Empty Weight
    From: "jonathanmilbank" <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk>
    868 lbs. Mine started out as a Classic mono with 912 80 hp and fixed Warp Drive prop. Over the years it has evolved firstly to Airmaster VP, then 912S in Classic cowls, then tri-gear, and recently to Nev Eyre cowls and engine bearer with XS style duct and radiator, but retaining the Classic oil cooler. So effectively mine is now a tri-gear XS with Airmaster prop and no spats, pants or speed kit; just bare legs and hinges. Therefore my 868 lbs makes sense compared with Rick Moss' 878 lbs. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468588#468588


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    Time: 11:11:10 AM PST US
    From: Richard Iddon <riddon@sent.com>
    Subject: Exhaust springs
    I recall that there was some discussion a while ago about exhaust springs. I have just replaced my silencer but the springs seem rather loose. In fact some of them are just rattling about and not in tension at all once installed. I also have evidence of exhaust gas blowing on one of my carb bowls. Do they loose their spring over time? Been 10 years since they were installed new / 750 hrs. Richard Iddon G-RIXS


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    Time: 11:15:35 AM PST US
    From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
    Subject: Re: Empty Weight
    837lbs Mono, XS, 914, woodcomp SR 3000W, speed kit, autopilot & v full panel, gelcoat finish. Includes 3 lbs lead in tail to give ideal COG. That is a good weight in the sense that I can have full fuel, lots of luggage and two pax of my size (6- 2" & 82 kg) How to achieve it? Think light from the start. Don't add anything you do not really need and always think is there a lighter way of doing this. Use correct, relatively dry mix for lay ups & always use peel ply. Forget steam age instrumentation. Do not fit heavy leather fixed upholstery. Cushions are much lighter and more flexible. Do not use the sort of paint scheme that needs 5 undercoats, a UV coat or two and several overcoats. Don't paint close outs and other areas that are not visible or exposed to sunlight. Gel coat is UV opaque and needs just the single coat, most of which you wet & dry off! David Joyce, GXSDJ "flyingphil2" <flyingphil627-europastuff@yahoo.co.uk> Hi, I would like to canvas opinion of what is a good or low empty weight for a Europa XS tri-gear. Would anyone be willing to share their empty weights with me (mono XS owners welcome)? Feel free to PM if you don't want to share the info on the forum. Thanks, Phil Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468578#468578 [1] Links: ------ [1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468578#468578 [2] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [3] http://forums.matronics.com [4] http://wiki.matronics.com [5] http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 11:48:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Exhaust springs
    From: david park <dpark748@icloud.com>
    I had a problem with exhaust spring breaking. The originals were easy to fit but started breaking. The replacements i received were 90mm springs which needed far too much tension to install. When i questioned this with CKT? It seems they changed something and my installation requires 95mm springs which they provide. Perhaps doesn't help you but shows that you need springs that fit your installation. Dave G-LDVO > On 18 Apr 2017, at 19:10, Richard Iddon <riddon@sent.com> wrote: > > > I recall that there was some discussion a while ago about exhaust springs. I have just replaced my silencer but the springs seem rather loose. In fact some of them are just rattling about and not in tension at all once installed. I also have evidence of exhaust gas blowing on one of my carb bowls. Do they loose their spring over time? Been 10 years since they were installed new / 750 hrs. > > Richard Iddon > > G-RIXS > > >


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    Time: 02:11:07 PM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    Subject: C04 water pipe query
    Ive just done a trial fit of the C04 water hose that goes from the header on top of the Rotax 912S down to the port side of the radiator and it seems a very tight fit between the footwell and the engine mount. Im concerned that it will be chafing and get damaged enough to spring a leak quite quickly. Has anyone else had this problem and if so what did they do about it? in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson


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    Time: 02:26:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: C04 water pipe query
    From: david park <dpark748@icloud.com>
    Mine is close to footwell and engine frame but no problem. Dave G-LDVO > On 18 Apr 2017, at 21:17, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ive just done a trial fit of the C04 water hose that goes from the header on top of the Rotax 912S down to the port side of the radiator and it seems a very tight fit between the footwell and the engine mount. Im concerned that it will be chafing and get damaged enough to spring a leak quite quickly. Has anyone else had this problem and if so what did they do about it? > > in friendship > > Rowland > > > > > >




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