---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/20/17: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:21 AM - Re: Re: C04 water pipe query (Rowland Carson) 2. 01:51 AM - Re: Empty Weight (Roland) 3. 07:54 AM - Re: Re: Empty Weight (david park) 4. 08:05 AM - Re: Re: Empty Weight (Alan Burrill) 5. 11:48 AM - Europa Fly-In: London, ON, Canada (CYXU) July 7, 8, 9, 20 (h&jeuropa) 6. 01:40 PM - Re: Europa Fly-In: London, ON, Canada (CYXU) July 7, 8, 9, 2017 (Pete) 7. 05:39 PM - Re: oil sump banjo orientation (Kingsley Hurst) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: C04 water pipe query From: Rowland Carson On 2017-04-19, at 21:03, jglazener wrote: > Coincidence- I was doing just that installation yesterday evening! That it has interference doesn't bother me to much, what on the Europa doesn't? ;-) > My problem is that the tight fit means I can't put enough force on the tube to get it to fully slide over the fitting of the water radiator. Do you have that too? Jeroen - I havent actually tried to fit the pipe to the radiator yet; I was offering it up to see how it would go, using the aperture in the duct for positioning. Just thinking aloud, I wonder if it would be possible to fit the pipe to the radiator before fitting the radiator to the duct? That might not work as there might not be room for the bent part of pipe C04 to pass upwards to its destination. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:51:43 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Empty Weight From: "Roland" 407 kg with an Airmaster CS-Prop. Kit was started as a Mono converted to Trigear. Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468629#468629 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:31 AM PST US From: david park Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Empty Weight G-LDVO MONO converted to TRIKE. Recently after some changes 903lbs. LiPobattery and lead weight out of fin, leather seats replaced with fiberglas. Full panel and autopilot and Airmaster prop. Dave > On 18 Apr 2017, at 17:14, Rick Moss wrote: > > > 878lbs (or 397.5kg in my preferred units) with spats, cushions and everything else actually used for flight. > > XS Trigear (and built as such) with 912S and Airmaster CS prop. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468586#468586 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:40 AM PST US From: Alan Burrill Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Empty Weight G-OBJT Tri-gear as built. 875 lbs with 912S and WarpDrive fixed Pitch, speed kit and wing leveller, GRT EFIS and EMS. Currently looking at options for adding an Airmaster CS Prop which will require Battery moving aft of firewall for W&B. Alan > On 20 Apr 2017, at 15:53, david park wrote: > > > G-LDVO MONO converted to TRIKE. Recently after some changes 903lbs. > LiPobattery and lead weight out of fin, leather seats replaced with fiberglas. > Full panel and autopilot and Airmaster prop. > Dave > > >> On 18 Apr 2017, at 17:14, Rick Moss wrote: >> >> >> 878lbs (or 397.5kg in my preferred units) with spats, cushions and everything else actually used for flight. >> >> XS Trigear (and built as such) with 912S and Airmaster CS prop. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468586#468586 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:10 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Europa Fly-In: London, ON, Canada (CYXU) July 7, 8, 9, 20 From: "h&jeuropa" This summers Europa Club North America Fly In will be held in London, Ontario (CYXU), July 7-9. London is centrally located and a reasonable distance to fly from states east of the Mississippi and north of Tennessee and the Carolinas; as well as parts of Ontario, Quebec and even the Maritimes. Two club members are based at CYXU. Theyve put together some great ideas for our visit, more than we could possibly do in a weekend. Well meet for dinner Friday evening and firm up plans for Saturday and Sunday. Please see the attachments for more information on flying in Canada, activities, and hotel reservations. Whether youre flying or driving, its a great opportunity to gather with other Europa owners / builders. Hope you can join us! Jim & Heather N241BW Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468642#468642 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/canadian_europa_tour_2017_560.docx http://forums.matronics.com//files/london_ontario_europa_tour_guide_129.docx http://forums.matronics.com//files/crossing_the_us_border_741.docx http://forums.matronics.com//files/canada_pattern_procedure_149.pdf http://forums.matronics.com//files/best_western_london_airport_inn_114.docx ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:40:56 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa Fly-In: London, ON, Canada (CYXU) July 7, 8, 9, 2017 From: Pete further to Chris's comprehensive planning document (thx Chris!), i wanted to add that current canadian CFS, charts, VTA's etc are all available *for fre e* using the "Fltplan Go" app available for android and apple. As in the US, having these on two devices (one s a backup) satisfies a ramp-check. Of co urse all the US charts are available free as well. The app's download optio n should be used (instead of online access) as cell coverage in various part s of Ontario can be spotty. I'm eager to witness a gaggle of Europas for inspiration! Cheers and blue skies, Pete > On Apr 20, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Jim & Heather wrote: > > This summer=99s Europa Club North America Fly In will be held in Lon don, Ontario (CYXU), July 7-9. London is centrally located and a reasonable distance to fly from states east of the Mississippi and north of Tennessee a nd the Carolinas; as well as parts of Ontario, Quebec and even the Maritimes . > > Two club members are based at CYXU. They=99ve put together some gre at ideas for our visit, more than we could possibly do in a weekend. We =99ll meet for dinner Friday evening and firm up plans for Saturday and Sund ay. Please see the attachments for more information on flying in Canada, ac tivities, and hotel reservations. > > Whether you=99re flying or driving, it=99s a great opportunity to gather with other Europa owners / builders. Hope you can join us! > > Jim & Heather > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:11 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Re: Europa-List: oil sump banjo orientation < On my Rotax 912S the outlet of the banjo fitting on the oil sump points forward. The pipe connected to it goes aft to starboard. The manual (Fig 7, page 5-5, 912S Installation) shows it pointing about 45 degrees forward and starboard. It looks as though it would be sensible to re-orient the banjo to point about 45 degrees aft and starboard. Is this a good or bad idea? Rowland, I remember reading in a Europa Tech Talk (or similar) several years ago to install the banjo such that the oil return hose takes the shortest route to get away from the muffler. Unfortunately, a protrusion on the sump precludes running the hose fully to the rear. In other words, set the banjo in order to run the hose the best way you can to avoid heat sources. >From my experience with our 914 Mono, may I make the following suggestions. . . . a.. Take your oil return hose and banjo fitting to a hose fitting company and ask them to crimp the hose to your banjo. (This will not only give you a professional job, it will give you more options as to orientation of the banjo and hose exiting the sump and alleviates the need to stuff around with the hose clamp.) b.. While at the same hose fitting company, ask for two Dowty washers to use in lieu of the copper washers on the banjo. (when I asked for replacement copper washers, I was in return asked why I was using 1930=99s technology?) I had never heard of Dowty washers so if you are like me, check out this link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonded_seal Regarding your other post about water hoses may I make further suggestions . . . . a.. I don=99t know what you are using but I suggest at least for the two main water hoses using silicon hoses as supplied by Stefan Ingemarsson. (After blowing on of the hoses as supplied by Europa and finding there was no reinforcement within the rubber, I was horrified so will not use them again) b.. When fitting the silicon hoses, just a smear of petroleum jelly around the fitting (and inside the hose) will make the hose slip on much easier.Using water on them also helps but I find the petroleum jelly works better. There is no need for concern that the hoses might slip off again Best regards Kingsley in Oz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.