---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/09/17: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:17 AM - Le Touquet (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 2. 04:49 AM - Re: 154hp Rotax "914" (Jan de Jong) 3. 06:08 AM - Airmaster whirlwind blades (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 4. 06:28 AM - Re: Le Touquet (James Kelly) 5. 06:39 AM - Re: Le Touquet (Alan Burrill) 6. 07:31 AM - Re: Is ELT and navegation lights required in the USA (h&jeuropa) 7. 07:40 AM - Fairoaks / EGTF (Christophe Dupre) 8. 08:09 AM - Re: Re: Is ELT and navegation lights required in the USA (William Daniell) 9. 10:46 AM - Pilot aware (graeme bird) 10. 11:51 AM - Re: Le Touquet (david park) 11. 12:22 PM - Re: Re: Is ELT and navigation lights required in the USA (Robert Hatton) 12. 01:33 PM - Re: Pilot aware (Alan Burrill) 13. 04:29 PM - Re: Southco Dzus fasteners (Robert Borger) 14. 06:04 PM - Help requested please (Kingsley Hurst) 15. 06:50 PM - Tail Plane Fitting (Graeme Hart) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:40 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Europa-List: Le Touquet Just a reminder that our annual trip to Le Touquet, with full support for Channel Virgins, is due to take place on 20 May, Wx willing. Anyone interested who has not already contacted me should do so soonest as I shall be sending out briefing sheets in the next day or so. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: 154hp Rotax "914" From: Jan de Jong Actually, in the video it is explained that the crankshaft is welded together with a special tool... They strike me as a competent outfit. Still, 154hp seems a little over the top. 915iS is probably too heavy for the Europa. Jan de Jong On 5/9/2017 2:12 AM, Pete wrote: > > Neat..... > > I guess the obvious question is one of longevity and shrink-fit crankshaft capacity? > > The 915iS looks great though....if it isn't priced out of this world. > > Cheers, > Pete > A239 > >> On May 8, 2017, at 6:47 PM, Jan de Jong wrote: >> >> >> via pprune: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqZLsHa2XSE >> >> and less expensive, and lighter, and no carburetors >> seems a little ambitious? and what does the propeller say.. >> >> Jan de Jong >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:09 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Europa-List: Airmaster whirlwind blades I found the article by Bud Y and Jim B very interesting. I am very prepared to believe that the extra performance with the Whirlwind blades is due to the increased twist they have as my change from low twist to high twist Woodcomp blades added an extra 5kts - probably within experimental error directly equivalent to your improvement. I would be very interested to know what the twist on the Whirlwind blades is - measured in the change of incidence between the tip and 1/3 radius if one of you could take your Smart tool to a blade. Woodcomp figure is 24 degrees for the high twist. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:46 AM PST US From: James Kelly Subject: Re: Europa-List: Le Touquet Hello David, Although I am recovering from replacement hip surgery please include me in the briefing pack. Best regards Jim KELLY G-BWEG On 9 May 2017 12:20 p.m., wrote: > Just a reminder that our annual trip to Le Touquet, with full support for > Channel Virgins, is due to take place on 20 May, Wx willing. Anyone > interested who has not already contacted me should do so soonest as I shall > be sending out briefing sheets in the next day or so. > > Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:35 AM PST US From: Alan Burrill Subject: Re: Europa-List: Le Touquet I'm a cross channel veteran, or is that antique, but could join in if Wx pla ys ball please. I'll be departing Brimpton. Alan Burrill G-OBJT Sent from my iPad > On 9 May 2017, at 14:28, James Kelly wrote: > > Hello David, Although I am recovering from replacement hip surgery please i nclude me in the briefing pack. > > Best regards Jim KELLY G-BWEG > >> On 9 May 2017 12:20 p.m., wrote: >> Just a reminder that our annual trip to Le Touquet, with full support for Channel Virgins, is due to take place on 20 May, Wx willing. Anyone interes ted who has not already contacted me should do so soonest as I shall be send ing out briefing sheets in the next day or so. >> >> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:47 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Is ELT and navegation lights required in the USA From: "h&jeuropa" Will, In the US an experimental aircraft will be issued a Special Airworthiness Certificate. That allows operation under FAR 91.319 which specifies day VFR only unless authorized for other flight by the FAA. With that certificate will come Operating Limitations. They will state that after the aircraft completes Phase I Testing, the aircraft can be operated at night and/or instrument conditions if equipped in accordance with FAR 91.205. FAR 91.205 refers to FAR 91.207 that states that an ELT is required. FAR 91.205 also requires an anti-collision light system (such as strobes) for all aircraft and if operated VFR at night, position lights in addition to the anti collision lights. Lights must conform to FAR 23. The AC that Fred referenced gives a lot of technical details including location requirements. Anti-collision can be mounted on the fuselage, such as on top of the rudder. But position lights are usually on the wing tip. Here is a guide from Whelen: http://www.whelen.com/pb/Aviation/System%20Requirements/Anit-Collision%20Systems.pdf So yes, you need an ELT and anti collision lights and if you expect to fly at night, position lights. We hope this helps. Jim & Heather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469152#469152 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:39 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Fairoaks / EGTF From: Christophe Dupre Hello there, I was wondering if there is anyone in the list who is based in Fairoarks (EGTF), or near by (BlackBushe, Popham, WW, etc...). I currently fly from LTFC and can see a few europa trailers there, but I've never been able to meet the owners. Thanks, Christophe ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:21 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Is ELT and navegation lights required in the USA jim excellent much appreciated. I am getting a bit ahead of myself. HJ460 is ready to fly but I am waiting on a combination of the authorities and my flying club for an airworthiness certificate. I then have to go through testing and ironing out the bugs. The idea is to fly to the USA at the end of the year and then re register as a US aircraft at some time after that. Bud already said that it is possible to do this. it sounds like I should put some lights in in any case and I dare say that an ELT would be a good investment for the flight up through central America or across the caribbean in any case :-) Many thanks Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:31 AM, h&jeuropa wrote: > > Will, > > In the US an experimental aircraft will be issued a Special Airworthiness > Certificate. That allows operation under FAR 91.319 which specifies day > VFR only unless authorized for other flight by the FAA. > > With that certificate will come Operating Limitations. They will state > that after the aircraft completes Phase I Testing, the aircraft can be > operated at night and/or instrument conditions if equipped in accordance > with FAR 91.205. > > FAR 91.205 refers to FAR 91.207 that states that an ELT is required. > > FAR 91.205 also requires an anti-collision light system (such as strobes) > for all aircraft and if operated VFR at night, position lights in addition > to the anti collision lights. > > Lights must conform to FAR 23. The AC that Fred referenced gives a lot > of technical details including location requirements. Anti-collision can > be mounted on the fuselage, such as on top of the rudder. But position > lights are usually on the wing tip. Here is a guide from Whelen: > http://www.whelen.com/pb/Aviation/System%20Requirements/Anit-Collision% > 20Systems.pdf > > So yes, you need an ELT and anti collision lights and if you expect to fly > at night, position lights. > > We hope this helps. > > Jim & Heather > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469152#469152 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:46:22 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Pilot aware From: "graeme bird" Just unpacked and configured my raspberry pi pilot aware gubbins and displaying Luton and other traffic on the laptop. Quite impressed so far. Not sure where I'll locate it, maybe behind baggage bay wall or whether I'll have a separate display as I already have pflarm on skydemon. I can't display both. It seems I'd have to buy a new flarm mouse to combine it into Pilot aware - another 600 on top of the 1000 I spent on the flarmcore and then presumably that's receive only. Anyone else doing similar? I'll probably see which displays best and just leave the other to transmitting. -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis ap, pflarm, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500 & SD on Nexus, 280 hours & 5 years on the Mono, 900 total g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469163#469163 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:51:03 AM PST US From: david park Subject: Re: Europa-List: Le Touquet SW4gdGhlIG1pZGRsZSBvZiBjb252ZXJ0aW5nIHRvIE5ldnMgY293bHMuIFNob3VsZCBiZSBvbiB0 aGlzIHdlZWtlbmQgYnV0IHdpbGwgbmVlZCBzcHJheWluZy4NClJlZ2FyZHMNCkRhdmUgUGFyaw0K DQoNCk9uIDkgTWF5IDIwMTcsIGF0IDE0OjM4LCBBbGFuIEJ1cnJpbGwgPGFsYW5iQGRweTAxLmNv LnVrPG1haWx0bzphbGFuYkBkcHkwMS5jby51az4+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQpJJ20gYSBjcm9zcyBjaGFu bmVsIHZldGVyYW4sIG9yIGlzIHRoYXQgYW50aXF1ZSwgYnV0IGNvdWxkIGpvaW4gaW4gaWYgV3gg cGxheXMgYmFsbCBwbGVhc2UuDQoNCkknbGwgYmUgZGVwYXJ0aW5nIEJyaW1wdG9uLg0KDQpBbGFu IEJ1cnJpbGwNCkctT0JKVA0KDQpTZW50IGZyb20gbXkgaVBhZA0KDQpPbiA5IE1heSAyMDE3LCBh dCAxNDoyOCwgSmFtZXMgS2VsbHkgPGV1cm9wYWppbWtlbGx5QGdtYWlsLmNvbTxtYWlsdG86ZXVy b3Bhamlta2VsbHlAZ21haWwuY29tPj4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCkhlbGxvIERhdmlkLCBBbHRob3VnaCBJ IGFtIHJlY292ZXJpbmcgZnJvbSByZXBsYWNlbWVudCBoaXAgc3VyZ2VyeSBwbGVhc2UgaW5jbHVk ZSBtZSBpbiB0aGUgYnJpZWZpbmcgcGFjay4NCg0KQmVzdCByZWdhcmRzIEppbSBLRUxMWSBHLUJX RUcNCg0KT24gOSBNYXkgMjAxNyAxMjoyMCBwLm0uLCA8ZGF2aWRqb3ljZUBkb2N0b3JzLm9yZy51 azxtYWlsdG86ZGF2aWRqb3ljZUBkb2N0b3JzLm9yZy51az4+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQpKdXN0IGEgcmVt aW5kZXIgdGhhdCBvdXIgYW5udWFsIHRyaXAgdG8gTGUgVG91cXVldCwgd2l0aCBmdWxsIHN1cHBv cnQgZm9yIENoYW5uZWwgVmlyZ2lucywgaXMgZHVlIHRvIHRha2UgcGxhY2Ugb24gMjAgTWF5LCBX eCB3aWxsaW5nLiBBbnlvbmUgaW50ZXJlc3RlZCB3aG8gaGFzIG5vdCBhbHJlYWR5IGNvbnRhY3Rl ZCBtZSBzaG91bGQgZG8gc28gc29vbmVzdCBhcyBJIHNoYWxsIGJlIHNlbmRpbmcgb3V0IGJyaWVm aW5nIHNoZWV0cyBpbiB0aGUgbmV4dCBkYXkgb3Igc28uDQoNClJlZ2FyZHMsIERhdmlkIEpveWNl LCBHWFNESg0KDQoNCg0KDQo ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:22:18 PM PST US From: "Robert Hatton" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Is ELT and navigation lights required in the USA Thank you to Jim and Heather for providing such good detail. I have a Europa with just a fin mounted strobe. Does anyone know of a Europa that has had wing tip position/navigation lights fitted after the wings have been completed? And how this task was carried out? -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of h&jeuropa Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 8:31 AM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Is ELT and navegation lights required in the USA Will, In the US an experimental aircraft will be issued a Special Airworthiness Certificate. That allows operation under FAR 91.319 which specifies day VFR only unless authorized for other flight by the FAA. With that certificate will come Operating Limitations. They will state that after the aircraft completes Phase I Testing, the aircraft can be operated at night and/or instrument conditions if equipped in accordance with FAR 91.205. FAR 91.205 refers to FAR 91.207 that states that an ELT is required. FAR 91.205 also requires an anti-collision light system (such as strobes) for all aircraft and if operated VFR at night, position lights in addition to the anti collision lights. Lights must conform to FAR 23. The AC that Fred referenced gives a lot of technical details including location requirements. Anti-collision can be mounted on the fuselage, such as on top of the rudder. But position lights are usually on the wing tip. Here is a guide from Whelen: http://www.whelen.com/pb/Aviation/System%20Requirements/Anit-Collision%20Sys tems.pdf So yes, you need an ELT and anti collision lights and if you expect to fly at night, position lights. We hope this helps. Jim & Heather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469152#469152 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:33:09 PM PST US From: Alan Burrill Subject: Re: Europa-List: Pilot aware I use PowerFlarm displayed through a V3+ display and will also feed the AVMAP GPS as well with traffic data. Not a wifi signal in sight. As this gives me FLARM in and out as well as the ADS-B, Mode A, C and S already and I have ADS-B out I cannot see the point in adding another unit. Alan G-OBJT Sent from my iPad > On 9 May 2017, at 18:45, graeme bird wrote: > > > Just unpacked and configured my raspberry pi pilot aware gubbins and displaying Luton and other traffic on the laptop. Quite impressed so far. Not sure where I'll locate it, maybe behind baggage bay wall or whether I'll have a separate display as I already have pflarm on skydemon. I can't display both. It seems I'd have to buy a new flarm mouse to combine it into Pilot aware - another 600 on top of the 1000 I spent on the flarmcore and then presumably that's receive only. Anyone else doing similar? > I'll probably see which displays best and just leave the other to transmitting. > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis ap, pflarm, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500 & SD on Nexus, > 280 hours & 5 years on the Mono, 900 total > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469163#469163 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:29:26 PM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Re: Europa-List: Southco Dzus fasteners Fred, Sorry it took so long, but I had to locate the info. Try MilSpec Products, Inc. ( milspecproducts.com ), 31537 Long Acres Drive, Sorrento, FL 32776 (352)735-0065. They carry all kinds of fasteners: Camloc, Dzus, Airloc, etc. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On May 5, 2017, at 9:44 PM, Fred Klein wrote: GentsI=99m unexpectedly stymied at finding someone who can sell me some Southco Dzus 82 series SS quarter turn fasteners w/ the following Southco part numbers: 82-28-300-20, 82-28-320-20, and 82-28-340-20. Aircraft Spruce has turned me downany suggestions for a supplier? Fred ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:19 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Europa-List: Help requested please On three successive occasions of late, I have been unsuccessful in renewing my membership with the Europa Club. I keep getting the following error . . . .. Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) Is anyone able to shed any light on this for me please? Kingsley in Oz ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:29 PM PST US From: Graeme Hart Subject: Europa-List: Tail Plane Fitting Hi All I'm working on fitting the tailplanes to the torque tube (chapter 18 in the build manual). My starboard tailplane fits on reasonably easily but the port tailplane will only fully engage if I "assist" it in to place with a hammer. Removing the tailplane them becomes a 15 minute exercise involving gentle prying. This does not seem right to me. I'm going to check the alignment of the TP12 drive pins with the torque tube as I suspect the pins may not be as parallel to the tube as they need to be. I assume I should be able to attach and remove the tailplanes without the use of any tools. I have attached a photo of the offending assembly in case it is not clear what parts I'm talking about. I'd like to know how "snugly" should the tailplane fit on the torque tube from those who have made it past this point in construction. 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