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1. 02:26 AM - Re: Tail Plane Fitting (Peter & Anthea Austin)
2. 04:05 AM - Re: Le Touquet (Roland)
3. 05:05 AM - retrofit tip lights [was: Is ELT and navigation lights required in the USA] (Rowland Carson)
4. 05:14 AM - Re: Help requested please (Rowland Carson)
5. 05:41 AM - Re: 154hp Rotax "914" (rampil)
6. 05:47 AM - Re: Help requested please (Nigel Graham)
7. 06:01 AM - Re: Arplast PV50 (Peter Jeffers)
8. 09:52 AM - Re: retrofit tip lights [was: Is ELT and navigation lights required in the USA] (Robert Hatton)
9. 11:27 AM - Re: retrofit tip lights [was: Is ELT and navigation lights required in the USA] (Pete Lawless)
10. 12:49 PM - Re: Help requested please (Rowland Carson)
11. 01:35 PM - Re: Re: 154hp Rotax "914" (Paul McAllister)
12. 04:04 PM - Re: Help requested please (Kingsley Hurst)
13. 06:58 PM - Re: Tail Plane Fitting (Gavin and Anne Lee)
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Subject: | Re: Tail Plane Fitting |
Hello Graeme,
As Tim said a snug fit, I fit mine fully home with a nudge from the
palm of my hand and to remove I use a Trowel inserted between
the fuselage and the tailplane to leverage clear of the drive pins.
Works well.
Regards
Peter
ZK-ZEB
> Thanks Tim. It is good to know that the fitting should be snug with a
> little force, now I know what to aim for.
>
> After sending the email I had a close look at the pins and I think one of
> them was slightly out of parallel with the torque tube. I've adjusted the
> pin slightly (yes, with a hammer :) and I'll reassemble later tonight and
> see how it goes.
>
>
> Regards
> Graeme
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Graeme,
>> They should be a snug fit, but certainly no hammer needed; should be easy
>> to connect and disconnect with a little force.
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>>
>> Tim Ward
>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>> Fendalton,
>> Christchurch, 8052
>> New Zealand
>>
>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>>
>> Mob +64 210640221
>>
>>
>>> On 10/05/2017, at 1:49 PM, Graeme Hart <graeme.hart@onecoolkat.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I'm working on fitting the tailplanes to the torque tube (chapter 18 in
>> the build manual).
>>>
>>> My starboard tailplane fits on reasonably easily but the port tailplane
>> will only fully engage if I "assist" it in to place with a hammer.
>> Removing the tailplane them becomes a 15 minute exercise involving gentle
>> prying. This does not seem right to me.
>>>
>>> I'm going to check the alignment of the TP12 drive pins with the torque
>> tube as I suspect the pins may not be as parallel to the tube as they need
>> to be.
>>>
>>> I assume I should be able to attach and remove the tailplanes without
>> the use of any tools.
>>>
>>> I have attached a photo of the offending assembly in case it is not
>> clear what parts I'm talking about.
>>>
>>> I'd like to know how "snugly" should the tailplane fit on the torque
>> tube from those who have made it past this point in construction.
>>>
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Hi David,
please count me in as well. However I do not have to cross the channel :-)
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS TG 914
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Subject: | retrofit tip lights [was: Is ELT and navigation lights required |
in the USA]
On 2017-05-09, at 20:21, Robert Hatton <roberthatton1@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know of a Europa
> that has had wing tip position/navigation lights fitted after the wings have
> been completed? And how this task was carried out?
Robert - I believe I remember hearing that some hardy soul has installed tip lights
as a retrofit to a Classic wing. I think this was done by boring a very long
hole through the blue foam. However, I dont think its a practical possibility
in the XS wing - there is too much internal structure to get through. You
can see how I did the conduit for tip strobes on my XS wings, before closing the
top skin, at:
http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/trystbdcond.php
and
http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/conduitinstall.php
and these pictures show how difficult it would be to retrofit wiring from root
to tip.
If you have Classic wings, you may have a chance to get the wiring through - best
of luck. I hope that the person who did it before might pop up here with some
suggestions!
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: Help requested please |
On 2017-05-10, at 02:03, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> On three successive occasions of late, I have been unsuccessful in renewing my
membership with the Europa Club. I keep getting the following error . . . ..
Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
>
> Is anyone able to shed any light on this for me please?
Kingsley - Im sorry you have not been able to renew your membership. The message
you are getting shows that the connexion between the website and the MySQL server
is not working. The Committee are in process of moving the website to a
new host with better facilities. One reason for the move is that some of the pages
and facilities on the present website are not functioning. Tim Houlihan &
I thought we had deleted or disabled all the broken links but obviously we have
failed to find the one you used.
Would you please let me know exactly where the broken link is? It would be great
if you could send a screenshot of where you click to get that error message.
If you cant easily capture a screenshot, then a description of the route from
the club front page would help. It would be good if you could send the info direct
to rowlandcarson@gmail.com rather than to the Matronics list, please.
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: 154hp Rotax "914" |
Phil,
Just curious:
How do you do "engine mapping" in a 912uls which has carburetors, not fuel injection,
and no electronic ignition, but rather a fixed wheel providing timing?
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469210#469210
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Subject: | Re: Help requested please |
Hi Kingsley,
I tried emailing you directly yesterday, but for some reason it bounced. It then
struck me that you might not be the only person experiencing problems and the
information may be of use to others, so I'm posting my response to the forum.
Hope it helps.
........... and while I have everyone's attention, if anybody has some nicely framed
high resolution pictures of Europas, Europa builds, Europa social gatherings
Europa flyins (basically anything that represents Europa ownership) that
we can use copyright free on the new site, I would be pleased to receive them
(email address below).
Thanks
Nigel
-------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Kingsley,
I spotted your post on Matronics and thought I'd respond directly.
We are in the process of upgrading the website completely, creating new content
and a new look and feel. As a result - the existing site is running in "maintenance
only" mode - so some features are no longer working. Please bear with us!
If you have a PayPal account, you can pay us by simply logging on and use the "make
a payment" facility using our email address of: membership@theeuropaclub.org
If you use your club membership number as a reference we can track your payment.
For the future, the new site should handle this seamlessly.
Contact me if this doesn't work.
Cheers
Nigel
Europa Club Treasurer
Email: treasurer@theeuropaclub.org
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469211#469211
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Hi Pat,
If you have the money then an Airmaster prop is one of the best on the
market that is still in production.Unfortunately the makers of the Arplast
PV50 prop are no longer trading so getting spares has become very difficult.
The Smart Avionics controller is very good and if you can get your hands on
a second hand unit then go for it. It is a better unit than the old one
that you had. The Smart Controller is much more sophisticated and does much
more for you than your original manual unit, and it does not rely on
internal rechargeable batteries. It also controls the pitch automatically
rather than manually. Unfortunately, as you have discovered, Smart Avionics
are no longer making this unit. (due probably to Arplast going out of
production)
Re the indicated pitch, with your unit, the numbers mean nothing, as they
are entirely dependent upon the position of the sensing arm on the position
transmitter potentiometer spindle. The indicated range from fine to coarse
is also a variable dependant on the setup of this same potentiometer.
Adjustment of the range of movement from coarse to fine is achieved by
adjusting the limit microswitches on the prop pitch change screw jack.
Fine pitch should be adjusted such that on the ground (a/c stationary) with
WOT you achieve around 5,300 rpm. This will give you about 5750 rpm at 65
to 70 kts ie
you are safe to t/off, clean up and start climb before worrying about
exceeding you max allowable rpm.
The coarse pitch limit will give you about a 10 degree pitch increase from
fine and should allow you to climb at a minimum ROC of 300ft/min and say 65
kts, at max wt. This covers the go around situation with the prop remaining
in coarse by accident or prop malfunction
I could ramble on but I won't unless you have any further questions.
Pete Jeffers (Europa Club Inspector)
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patdriessen
Sent: 11 May 2017 01:16
Subject: Europa-List: Arblast PV50
--> <patdriessen@clear.net.nz>
Hello again,
Trying to sort out my Europa.
I have an Arblast pv 50 on the Europa I got from the USA. It has an LCL
display and manual switch in the cockpit. Before I got a chance to fly with
it my engineer had to replace the control box located in the engine bay as
the battery had leaked and ruined the electronics. Now I have an aftermarket
control box that uses current from the aircraft.
When I operate the switch in the a/c, it adjusts the propeller pitch and the
number on the LCD display changes. The range is approximately 30 (fully
fine) to approx. 130 (fully coarse). This may or may not correspond to the
readings from the original controller. I take off and land with a reading of
not less than 47 as this limits the max RPM to 5800......everything else is
just a guess........any ideas?
Did a bit of googling and saw a Smart Electronics CSC-1/P (they don't appear
to make them anymore) that seem to be compatible to the pv50. Are they any
good and would I be able to get a second hand one? Would ideally like an
Airmaster but have to make do with what I've got for the meantime.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469205#469205
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Subject: | retrofit tip lights [was: Is ELT and navigation lights |
required in the USA]
Hello Rowland,
Thank you so much for your response and links to the photos of your wing. I have
Classic wings, so I may be lucky. I am not looking to do this imminently, but
should I ever take the plunge and do this, I probably will need to source a
surgeon who is an expert on key-hole surgery!
If the hardy soul who has retro fitted wing tip navigation lights pops up with
some suggestions I would be grateful. But your photos, even though of the XS wing,
showing your conduit have been very useful in my thinking of how this may
get done.
All the best,
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland Carson
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:04 AM
Subject: Europa-List: retrofit tip lights [was: Is ELT and navigation lights required
in the USA]
--> <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
On 2017-05-09, at 20:21, Robert Hatton <roberthatton1@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know of a Europa
> that has had wing tip position/navigation lights fitted after the
> wings have been completed? And how this task was carried out?
Robert - I believe I remember hearing that some hardy soul has installed tip lights
as a retrofit to a Classic wing. I think this was done by boring a very long
hole through the blue foam. However, I dont think its a practical possibility
in the XS wing - there is too much internal structure to get through. You
can see how I did the conduit for tip strobes on my XS wings, before closing the
top skin, at:
http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/trystbdcond.php
and
http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/conduitinstall.php
and these pictures show how difficult it would be to retrofit wiring from root
to tip.
If you have Classic wings, you may have a chance to get the wiring through - best
of luck. I hope that the person who did it before might pop up here with some
suggestions!
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: retrofit tip lights [was: Is ELT and navigation lights |
required in the USA]
Hi Robert
Don't forget that the Classic foam wings have large lightening holes
running span wise in the foam cores. So if you can find the hole you are
only talking about drilling through the layups that make up the ribs.
If the wing root has not been painted you will probably be able to see
where the holes are. But basically 2 inches forward of the spar will be
hollow from end to end, other than the rib layups.
Do talk to your inspector if you are in the UK before making any holes.
Regards
Pete
G-RMAC Classic #109
On 11/05/17 17:51, Robert Hatton wrote:
>
> Hello Rowland,
>
> Thank you so much for your response and links to the photos of your wing. I have
Classic wings, so I may be lucky. I am not looking to do this imminently,
but should I ever take the plunge and do this, I probably will need to source
a surgeon who is an expert on key-hole surgery!
>
> If the hardy soul who has retro fitted wing tip navigation lights pops up with
some suggestions I would be grateful. But your photos, even though of the XS
wing, showing your conduit have been very useful in my thinking of how this may
get done.
>
> All the best,
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland Carson
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:04 AM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: retrofit tip lights [was: Is ELT and navigation lights
required in the USA]
>
> --> <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
>
> On 2017-05-09, at 20:21, Robert Hatton <roberthatton1@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Does anyone know of a Europa
>> that has had wing tip position/navigation lights fitted after the
>> wings have been completed? And how this task was carried out?
>
>
> Robert - I believe I remember hearing that some hardy soul has installed tip
lights as a retrofit to a Classic wing. I think this was done by boring a very
long hole through the blue foam. However, I dont think its a practical possibility
in the XS wing - there is too much internal structure to get through. You
can see how I did the conduit for tip strobes on my XS wings, before closing
the top skin, at:
>
> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/trystbdcond.php
>
> and
>
> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/conduitinstall.php
>
> and these pictures show how difficult it would be to retrofit wiring from root
to tip.
>
> If you have Classic wings, you may have a chance to get the wiring through -
best of luck. I hope that the person who did it before might pop up here with
some suggestions!
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Help requested please |
On 2017-05-10, at 02:03, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> On three successive occasions of late, I have been unsuccessful in renewing my
membership with the Europa Club. I keep getting the following error . . . ..
Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
>
> Is anyone able to shed any light on this for me please?
Kingsley - my apologies for having missed this problem. The link is really obvious
when looking at the website page, but unfortunately when editing the appearance
using the WordPress software it is quite hard to find and was not at all
obvious to either me or to Tim Houlihan that it needed fixing. We tried to use
an automatic process to detect broken links but WordPress does not permit that.
You can see that this is developing into an anti-commercial for WordPress!
Anyway, I have now managed to remove the offending stuff. It will re-appear in
working form when we transfer to the new website hosting system. We all hope that
will not be long now!
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: 154hp Rotax "914" |
Ira,
Tongue in cheek..... I can only assume that there has been a break through
in automotive technology that we are not aware of for this. =98=BA
Seriously though, it was an nice presentation and it reminds me of Jason
Parker's work 10 years back. It did occur to me that there probably isn't a
propeller available for a Rotax in this HP range.
Also, I couldn't help thinking about the possibility of stress fractures in
the crankshaft if they are welding the press fit to prevent twisting.
Paul
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:40 AM, rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Phil,
>
> Just curious:
>
> How do you do "engine mapping" in a 912uls which has carburetors, not fue
l
> injection, and no electronic ignition, but rather a fixed wheel providing
> timing?
>
> --------
> Ira N224XS
>
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Subject: | Re: Help requested please |
< Anyway, I have now managed to remove the offending stuff . . . . . . .
Thank you for looking into this for me Rowland.
Best regards
Kingsley
Do not archive
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Subject: | Tail Plane Fitting |
Hi Graeme, yes definitely no hammer needed, if you slide a piece of
metal tube of the same internal diameter over the pin you will soon see
if it is aligned correctly with the torque tube and using the tube it
will be easy enough to bend the pin into alignment
Regards
Gavin
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graeme Hart
Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2017 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tail Plane Fitting
Thanks Tim. It is good to know that the fitting should be snug with a
little force, now I know what to aim for.
After sending the email I had a close look at the pins and I think one
of them was slightly out of parallel with the torque tube. I've
adjusted the pin slightly (yes, with a hammer :) and I'll reassemble
later tonight and see how it goes.
Regards
Graeme
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Graeme,
They should be a snug fit, but certainly no hammer needed; should be
easy to connect and disconnect with a little force.
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Mob +64 210640221 <tel:%2B64%20210640221>
> On 10/05/2017, at 1:49 PM, Graeme Hart <graeme.hart@onecoolkat.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> I'm working on fitting the tailplanes to the torque tube (chapter 18
in the build manual).
>
> My starboard tailplane fits on reasonably easily but the port
tailplane will only fully engage if I "assist" it in to place with a
hammer. Removing the tailplane them becomes a 15 minute exercise
involving gentle prying. This does not seem right to me.
>
> I'm going to check the alignment of the TP12 drive pins with the
torque tube as I suspect the pins may not be as parallel to the tube as
they need to be.
>
> I assume I should be able to attach and remove the tailplanes without
the use of any tools.
>
> I have attached a photo of the offending assembly in case it is not
clear what parts I'm talking about.
>
> I'd like to know how "snugly" should the tailplane fit on the torque
tube from those who have made it past this point in construction.
>
>
> Thanks
> Graeme (NZ)
> <20170510_125136r.jpg>
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