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1. 02:01 AM - Re: 154hp Rotax "914" (flyingphil2)
2. 05:18 AM - Re: Re: Tail Plane Fitting (Graeme Hart)
3. 05:22 AM - Fw: Re: Tail Plane Fitting (Graeme Hart)
4. 05:11 PM - Re: Tail Plane Fitting (Kingsley Hurst)
5. 10:04 PM - Re: Tail Plane Fitting (Gavin Lee)
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| Subject: | Re: 154hp Rotax "914" |
Ira,
You spotted my deliberate mistake [Wink]
It's a development of the standard 912 iS.
Phil
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469235#469235
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Plane Fitting |
Thanks Peter. The trowel is a great idea.
On 11/05/2017 9:30 PM, "Peter & Anthea Austin" <p-a.austin@xnet.co.nz>
wrote:
> p-a.austin@xnet.co.nz>
>
> Hello Graeme,
>
> As Tim said a snug fit, I fit mine fully home with a nudge from the
> palm of my hand and to remove I use a Trowel inserted between
> the fuselage and the tailplane to leverage clear of the drive pins.
> Works well.
>
> Regards
> Peter
> ZK-ZEB
>
>
> > Thanks Tim. It is good to know that the fitting should be snug with a
> > little force, now I know what to aim for.
> >
> > After sending the email I had a close look at the pins and I think one of
> > them was slightly out of parallel with the torque tube. I've adjusted
> the
> > pin slightly (yes, with a hammer :) and I'll reassemble later tonight and
> > see how it goes.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Graeme
> >
> > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi Graeme,
> >> They should be a snug fit, but certainly no hammer needed; should be
> easy
> >> to connect and disconnect with a little force.
> >> Cheers,
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> Tim Ward
> >> 12 Waiwetu Street,
> >> Fendalton,
> >> Christchurch, 8052
> >> New Zealand
> >>
> >> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
> >>
> >> Mob +64 210640221
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 10/05/2017, at 1:49 PM, Graeme Hart <graeme.hart@onecoolkat.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi All
> >>>
> >>> I'm working on fitting the tailplanes to the torque tube (chapter 18 in
> >> the build manual).
> >>>
> >>> My starboard tailplane fits on reasonably easily but the port tailplane
> >> will only fully engage if I "assist" it in to place with a hammer.
> >> Removing the tailplane them becomes a 15 minute exercise involving
> gentle
> >> prying. This does not seem right to me.
> >>>
> >>> I'm going to check the alignment of the TP12 drive pins with the torque
> >> tube as I suspect the pins may not be as parallel to the tube as they
> need
> >> to be.
> >>>
> >>> I assume I should be able to attach and remove the tailplanes without
> >> the use of any tools.
> >>>
> >>> I have attached a photo of the offending assembly in case it is not
> >> clear what parts I'm talking about.
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to know how "snugly" should the tailplane fit on the torque
> >> tube from those who have made it past this point in construction.
> >>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Tail Plane Fitting |
Grear tip Gavin. The pins are probably 1/4 inch but I will measure tomorrow
and then try to find a supply of imperial sized pipe in NZ, failing that I
will have to place an Aircraft Spruce order.
On 12/05/2017 2:02 PM, "Gavin and Anne Lee" <gavanne@iconz.co.nz> wrote:
> Hi Graeme, yes definitely no hammer needed, if you slide a piece of metal
> tube of the same internal diameter over the pin you will soon see if it is
> aligned correctly with the torque tube and using the tube it will be easy
> enough to bend the pin into alignment
>
> Regards
>
> Gavin
>
>
> *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Graeme Hart
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 May 2017 8:46 PM
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Tail Plane Fitting
>
>
> Thanks Tim. It is good to know that the fitting should be snug with a
> little force, now I know what to aim for.
>
>
> After sending the email I had a close look at the pins and I think one of
> them was slightly out of parallel with the torque tube. I've adjusted the
> pin slightly (yes, with a hammer :) and I'll reassemble later tonight and
> see how it goes.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Graeme,
> They should be a snug fit, but certainly no hammer needed; should be easy
> to connect and disconnect with a little force.
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> Tim Ward
> 12 Waiwetu Street,
> Fendalton,
> Christchurch, 8052
> New Zealand
>
> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>
> Mob +64 210640221
>
>
> > On 10/05/2017, at 1:49 PM, Graeme Hart <graeme.hart@onecoolkat.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > I'm working on fitting the tailplanes to the torque tube (chapter 18 in
> the build manual).
> >
> > My starboard tailplane fits on reasonably easily but the port tailplane
> will only fully engage if I "assist" it in to place with a hammer.
> Removing the tailplane them becomes a 15 minute exercise involving gentle
> prying. This does not seem right to me.
> >
> > I'm going to check the alignment of the TP12 drive pins with the torque
> tube as I suspect the pins may not be as parallel to the tube as they need
> to be.
> >
> > I assume I should be able to attach and remove the tailplanes without
> the use of any tools.
> >
> > I have attached a photo of the offending assembly in case it is not
> clear what parts I'm talking about.
> >
> > I'd like to know how "snugly" should the tailplane fit on the torque
> tube from those who have made it past this point in construction.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Graeme (NZ)
>
> > <20170510_125136r.jpg>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Plane Fitting |
< I will measure tomorrow and then try to find a supply of imperial sized pipe
in NZ, failing that I will have to place an Aircraft Spruce order.
Graeme,
The pins on my TP12 drive plates were a long way out of alignment as supplied.
All I did was drill a 1/4" hole in the end of a piece of straight solid bar approx
300 mm in length. Placing the rod over the pins, I then made the necessary
adjustments until the bar was parallel to the torque tube when viewed in two
planes at right angles to each other.
Drilling the hole of course requires the use of a lathe but that should not be
too hard to come by.
Cheers
Kingsley in Oz
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Plane Fitting |
Hobby shops have short lengths of tube of various diameters
Cheers
> On 13/05/2017, at 12:21 AM, Graeme Hart <graeme.hart@onecoolkat.com> wrote
:
>
>
>
> Grear tip Gavin. The pins are probably 1/4 inch but I will measure tomorro
w and then try to find a supply of imperial sized pipe in NZ, failing that I
will have to place an Aircraft Spruce order.
>
>> On 12/05/2017 2:02 PM, "Gavin and Anne Lee" <gavanne@iconz.co.nz> wrote:
>> Hi Graeme, yes definitely no hammer needed, if you slide a piece of metal
tube of the same internal diameter over the pin you will soon see if it is a
ligned correctly with the torque tube and using the tube it will be easy eno
ugh to bend the pin into alignment
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Gavin
>>
>>
>>
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-se
rver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graeme Hart
>> Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2017 8:46 PM
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tail Plane Fitting
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Tim. It is good to know that the fitting should be snug with a li
ttle force, now I know what to aim for.
>>
>>
>>
>> After sending the email I had a close look at the pins and I think one of
them was slightly out of parallel with the torque tube. I've adjusted the p
in slightly (yes, with a hammer :) and I'll reassemble later tonight and see
how it goes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Graeme
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Graeme,
>> They should be a snug fit, but certainly no hammer needed; should be easy
to connect and disconnect with a little force.
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>>
>> Tim Ward
>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>> Fendalton,
>> Christchurch, 8052
>> New Zealand
>>
>> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>>
>> Mob +64 210640221
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 10/05/2017, at 1:49 PM, Graeme Hart <graeme.hart@onecoolkat.com> wro
te:
>> >
>> > Hi All
>> >
>> > I'm working on fitting the tailplanes to the torque tube (chapter 18 in
the build manual).
>> >
>> > My starboard tailplane fits on reasonably easily but the port tailplane
will only fully engage if I "assist" it in to place with a hammer. Removin
g the tailplane them becomes a 15 minute exercise involving gentle prying. T
his does not seem right to me.
>> >
>> > I'm going to check the alignment of the TP12 drive pins with the torque
tube as I suspect the pins may not be as parallel to the tube as they need t
o be.
>> >
>> > I assume I should be able to attach and remove the tailplanes without t
he use of any tools.
>> >
>> > I have attached a photo of the offending assembly in case it is not cle
ar what parts I'm talking about.
>> >
>> > I'd like to know how "snugly" should the tailplane fit on the torque tu
be from those who have made it past this point in construction.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Graeme (NZ)
>>
>> > <20170510_125136r.jpg>
>>
>>
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