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     1. 12:16 AM - Re: Crimp tool - any loan available? (Rowland Carson)
     2. 12:23 AM - Re: Crimp tool - any loan available? (italianjon)
     3. 01:43 AM - Cambridge cowboy (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
     4. 02:14 AM - Re: Cambridge cowboy (flyingphil2)
     5. 02:50 AM - Re: Cambridge cowboy (Roland)
     6. 02:53 AM - Re: Europa fly-in Bad =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=C3=BCrkheim?=/Germany 16th-18th June (Roland)
     7. 04:13 AM - Re: Re: Cambridge cowboy (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
     8. 09:58 AM - Re: Cambridge cowboy (Rowland Carson)
     9. 11:16 AM - Re: Cambridge cowboy (Bob Harrison)
    10. 12:50 PM - Re: Cambridge cowboy (Alan Burrill)
    11. 01:47 PM - Re: Cambridge cowboy (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Crimp tool - any loan available? | 
      
      
      On 2017-06-14, at 07:55, italianjon <jon.catilli@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      
      > Does anyone have a crimp tool they could send me to borrow for a week or so towards
      the end of July or into August?
      
      
      Jon - I think I have what you need - whereabouts are you located?
      
      in friendship
      
      Rowland
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Crimp tool - any loan available? | 
      
      
      Hi Rowland,
      
      I'll drop you a PM when I get home. Typing on my cracked phone screen leads to
      some interesting typos :-)
      
      I'm based in Germany.
      
      Best 
      
      Jon
      
      
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| Subject:  | Cambridge cowboy | 
      
      
      This last Sunday we were returning from our Arctic trip passing about 5
      miles north of Cambridge at around 5.45 pm at something like 2800 ft and
      battling a 20+ kt headwind. We saw a plane coming on a reciprocal track
      at our 1 o'clock and about 300 ft higher. We turned 45 degrees left to
      give added clearance and increase conspicuity whilst keeping a close eye
      on him. We were surprised to say the least when from fairly close he
      dived to his right to descend to pass immediately in front of us about
      10 feet up and perhaps 50 yards in front. As he reached our track he did
      an aileron roll! And dived off in the direction of Cambridge. Elegant
      but IDIOTIC! The plane was blue and white and looked like an Extra or
      similar. It all happened so quickly that we did not have a chance to get
      the reg, otherwise we would have felt obliged to report an Airprox. We
      might have been the sort of muffins that rarely look out of the cockpit,
      and could perhaps have just realised that we were going to be late &
      pushed the throttle or whatever. 
      
       If any of you flying out of Cambridge recognise the description, you
      might like to pass the message that we did not yhink it was a specially
      bright manoeuvre! 
      
      Regards, David Joyce & Tim Houlihan in GBZTH 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cambridge cowboy | 
      
      
      Cambridge?
      
      Blue and White?
      
      Extra?
      
      Not this one by any chance:
      
      http://cambridgeaeroclub.com/adventure-flights/
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470090#470090
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cambridge cowboy | 
      
      
      One of the reasons I (and my passenger) wear a chute. 2800ft would be about a hight
      having a pretty good chance to bail out (BTW might well be, that the Extra
      pilot did wear one as well, since it's an aerobatic airplane).
      
      @David - good that you still have the possibility to post this experience here.
      Agree to your judgement of this maneuvre.
      
      Regards
      Roland
      PH-ZTI
      XS TG 914
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Europa fly-in Bad =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=C3=BCrkheim?=/Germany | 
      16th-18th June
      
      
      Weather Looks pretty good for the Weekend in Bad Drkheim :-)
      
      Looking forward to meeting many of you there! My number is +49 160 993 552 in case
      anyone wants to get in contact (but I think the Europa pilots will find each
      other anyway :-)
      
      Roland
      PH-ZTI
      XS TG 914
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cambridge cowboy | 
      
      
      The spitting image! David 
      
      On 2017-06-14 10:13, flyingphil2 wrote: 
      
      > 
      > Cambridge?
      > 
      > Blue and White?
      > 
      > Extra?
      > 
      > Not this one by any chance:
      > 
      > http://cambridgeaeroclub.com/adventure-flights/ [1]
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470090#470090 [2]
      > 
      
      
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      [2] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470090#470090
      [3] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
      [4] http://forums.matronics.com
      [5] http://wiki.matronics.com
      [6] http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cambridge cowboy | 
      
      
      On 2017-06-14, at 09:38, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote:
      
      > we did not have a chance to get the reg, otherwise we would have felt obliged
      to report an Airprox
      
      
      David - you dont need the reg to file an airprox; this sounds to me very worthwhile
      to report formally. Id like to have this guy stopped before I bump into him!
      
      in friendship
      
      Rowland
      
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| Subject:  | Cambridge cowboy | 
      
      Hi!
      
      David,  you are probably too late to have the Radar Services save the 
      tapes. But if you had reported it whilst air borne they would have it 
      recorded. The JCB helicopter nearly took me out between Kettering and 
      Northampton once I didn=99t report it at once but commenced a 
      complaint with JCB direct, they denied having a flight at that time.  
      But on pressure their manager gave way and admitted the flight was a 
      training flight between Ellestree and Utoxeter with the damn pilot 
      =9Cunder the hood=9D his lookout was on the wrong side to 
      me.   I had been receiving a Radar service from Birmingham  or East 
      Midlands but he was under observation from Coventry.  But no bugger was 
      going to tell me I didn=99t know what a Yellow JCB copter looked 
      like especially when in that split second all I could see out the screen 
      forward was yellow Copter. 
      
      You should have done an immediate airborne report but I guess you 
      weren=99t receiving a service?
      
      These tossers want taking to task . I would instigate an investigation 
      .......nothing to stop you  ......make them squirm like the Hunter Pilot 
      at Shorham.
      
      Regards
      
      Bob Harrison G-PTAG.
      
      
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 
      davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
      Sent: 14 June 2017 09:38
      Subject: Europa-List: Cambridge cowboy
      
      
      This last Sunday we were returning from our Arctic trip passing about 5 
      miles north of Cambridge at around  5.45 pm at something like 2800 ft 
      and battling a 20+ kt headwind. We saw a plane coming on a reciprocal 
      track at our 1 o'clock and about 300 ft higher. We turned 45 degrees 
      left to give added clearance and increase conspicuity whilst keeping a 
      close eye on him. We were surprised to say the least when from fairly 
      close he dived to his right to descend to pass immediately in front of 
      us about 10 feet up and perhaps 50 yards in front. As he reached our 
      track he did an aileron roll! And dived off in the direction of 
      Cambridge. Elegant but IDIOTIC! The plane was  blue and white and looked 
      like an Extra or similar. It all happened so quickly that we did not 
      have a chance to get the reg, otherwise we would have felt obliged to 
      report an Airprox. We might have been the sort of muffins that rarely 
      look out of the cockpit, and could perhaps have just realised that we 
      were going to be late & pushed the throttle or whatever.
      
         If any of you flying out of Cambridge recognise the description, you 
      might like to pass the message that we did not yhink it was a specially 
      bright manoeuvre!
      
      Regards, David Joyce & Tim Houlihan in GBZTH
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cambridge cowboy | 
      
      Radar recordings are retained for 30 days.
      
      It's worth filing an airprox so it can be investigated and lessons learned 
      
      
      Alan
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On 14 Jun 2017, at 19:16, Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@talktalk.net> wrote:
      > 
      > Hi!
      > David,  you are probably too late to have the Radar Services save the tape
      s. But if you had reported it whilst air borne they would have it recorded. T
      he JCB helicopter nearly took me out between Kettering and Northampton once I
       didn=99t report it at once but commenced a complaint with JCB direct,
       they denied having a flight at that time.  But on pressure their manager ga
      ve way and admitted the flight was a training flight between Ellestree and U
      toxeter with the damn pilot =9Cunder the hood=9D his lookout was
       on the wrong side to me.   I had been receiving a Radar service from Birmin
      gham  or East Midlands but he was under observation from Coventry.  But no b
      ugger was going to tell me I didn=99t know what a Yellow JCB copter lo
      oked like especially when in that split second all I could see out the scree
      n forward was yellow Copter.
      > You should have done an immediate airborne report but I guess you weren
      =99t receiving a service?
      > These tossers want taking to task . I would instigate an investigation ...
      ....nothing to stop you  ......make them squirm like the Hunter Pilot at Sho
      rham.
      > Regards
      > Bob Harrison G-PTAG.
      >  
      > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-ser
      ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
      > Sent: 14 June 2017 09:38
      > To: europa list
      > Subject: Europa-List: Cambridge cowboy
      >  
      > This last Sunday we were returning from our Arctic trip passing about 5 mi
      les north of Cambridge at around  5.45 pm at something like 2800 ft and batt
      ling a 20+ kt headwind. We saw a plane coming on a reciprocal track at our 1
       o'clock and about 300 ft higher. We turned 45 degrees left to give added cl
      earance and increase conspicuity whilst keeping a close eye on him. We were s
      urprised to say the least when from fairly close he dived to his right to de
      scend to pass immediately in front of us about 10 feet up and perhaps 50 yar
      ds in front. As he reached our track he did an aileron roll! And dived off i
      n the direction of Cambridge. Elegant but IDIOTIC! The plane was  blue and w
      hite and looked like an Extra or similar. It all happened so quickly that we
       did not have a chance to get the reg, otherwise we would have felt obliged t
      o report an Airprox. We might have been the sort of muffins that rarely look
       out of the cockpit, and could perhaps have just realised that we were going
       to be late & pushed the throttle or whatever.
      > 
      >    If any of you flying out of Cambridge recognise the description, you mi
      ght like to pass the message that we did not yhink it was a specially bright
       manoeuvre!
      > 
      > Regards, David Joyce & Tim Houlihan in GBZTH
      > 
      >  
      > 
      >  
      >  
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Cambridge cowboy | 
      
      
      I am pursuing it via the Cambridge Aero Club, which strangely enough has
      a blue and white Extra the spitting image of the one which aggravate4d
      us. David 
      
      On 2017-06-14 20:49, Alan Burrill wrote: 
      
      > Radar recordings are retained for 30 days. 
      > 
      > It's worth filing an airprox so it can be investigated and lessons learned 
      > 
      > Alan
      > 
      > Sent from my iPad 
      > 
      > On 14 Jun 2017, at 19:16, Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@talktalk.net> wrote:
      > 
      >> Hi! 
      >> 
      >> David, you are probably too late to have the Radar Services save the tapes.
      But if you had reported it whilst air borne they would have it recorded. The JCB
      helicopter nearly took me out between Kettering and Northampton once I didn't
      report it at once but commenced a complaint with JCB direct, they denied having
      a flight at that time. But on pressure their manager gave way and admitted
      the flight was a training flight between Ellestree and Utoxeter with the damn
      pilot "under the hood" his lookout was on the wrong side to me. I had been receiving
      a Radar service from Birmingham or East Midlands but he was under observation
      from Coventry. But no bugger was going to tell me I didn't know what
      a Yellow JCB copter looked like especially when in that split second all I could
      see out the screen forward was yellow Copter. 
      >> 
      >> You should have done an immediate airborne report but I guess you weren't receiving
      a service? 
      >> 
      >> These tossers want taking to task . I would instigate an investigation .......nothing
      to stop you ......make them squirm like the Hunter Pilot at Shorham.
      
      >> 
      >> Regards 
      >> 
      >> Bob Harrison G-PTAG. 
      >> 
      >> FROM: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] ON BEHALF OF davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
      >> SENT: 14 June 2017 09:38
      >> TO: europa list
      >> SUBJECT: Europa-List: Cambridge cowboy 
      >> 
      >> This last Sunday we were returning from our Arctic trip passing about 5 miles
      north of Cambridge at around 5.45 pm at something like 2800 ft and battling
      a 20+ kt headwind. We saw a plane coming on a reciprocal track at our 1 o'clock
      and about 300 ft higher. We turned 45 degrees left to give added clearance and
      increase conspicuity whilst keeping a close eye on him. We were surprised to
      say the least when from fairly close he dived to his right to descend to pass
      immediately in front of us about 10 feet up and perhaps 50 yards in front. As
      he reached our track he did an aileron roll! And dived off in the direction
      of Cambridge. Elegant but IDIOTIC! The plane was blue and white and looked like
      an Extra or similar. It all happened so quickly that we did not have a chance
      to get the reg, otherwise we would have felt obliged to report an Airprox. We
      might have been the sort of muffins that rarely look out of the cockpit, and
      could perhaps have just realised that we were going 
      
       to be
      late & pushed the throttle or whatever. 
      >> 
      >> If any of you flying out of Cambridge recognise the description, you might like
      to pass the message that we did not yhink it was a specially bright manoeuvre!
      
      >> 
      >> Regards, David Joyce & Tim Houlihan in GBZTH 
      >> 
      >> [1] 
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