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1. 03:08 AM - No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter Belgium (Roland)
2. 03:48 AM - Re: No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter Belgium (David Watts)
3. 04:21 AM - Re: No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter Belgium (Paul Mansfield)
4. 04:34 AM - Re: No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter Belgium (Brian Davies)
5. 05:46 AM - Trip to Spain (david park)
6. 06:25 AM - Club AGM - Saturday Evening Food (Nigel Graham)
7. 06:34 AM - Re: Trip to Spain (Richard Scanlan)
8. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: Landing Light Positioning (GTH)
9. 07:47 AM - Re: Trip to Spain (david park)
10. 08:12 AM - Re: Trip to Spain (david park)
11. 09:11 AM - Re: Trip to Spain (Richard Scanlan)
12. 10:00 AM - Re: No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter Belgium (houlihan tim)
13. 10:44 AM - Re: Trip to Spain (david park)
14. 11:06 AM - Re: Landing Light Positioning (spcialeffects)
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| Subject: | No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter Belgium |
I didn't find a link yet, but on PPRUNE I found:
PRESS RELEASE 21 June 2017 For immediate release In a joint effort the European
Federation of Light, Experimental & Vintage Aircraft (EFLEVA), the Vereniging
Vlaamse MotorVliegclubs (VVMV) and the Belgian Aviation Authorities we are pleased
to announce that amateur-built and certain historic aircraft registered
in European Civil Aviation Conference (ECAC) member states no longer require
a permit to over fly Belgian territory for 30 days in a calendar year. A Royal
Decr has been published on 21 June 2017 which confirms and details this change.
It comes in effect on 1 July.
That's Europe how it SHOULD be :-)
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| Subject: | Re: No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter |
Belgium
Yippee, fantastic news and about time.
Ostend, here we come again, we love it there but have effectively been denied for
some years.
Dave Watts,
G-BXDY Classic Mono
> On 22 Jun 2017, at 11:07, Roland <schmidtroland@web.de> wrote:
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> I didn't find a link yet, but on PPRUNE I found:
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> PRESS RELEASE 21 June 2017 For immediate release In a joint effort the European
Federation of Light, Experimental & Vintage Aircraft (EFLEVA), the Vereniging
Vlaamse MotorVliegclubs (VVMV) and the Belgian Aviation Authorities we are
pleased to announce that amateur-built and certain historic aircraft registered
in European Civil Aviation Conference (ECAC) member states no longer require
a permit to over fly Belgian territory for 30 days in a calendar year. A Royal
Decr has been published on 21 June 2017 which confirms and details this change.
It comes in effect on 1 July.
>
> That's Europe how it SHOULD be :-)
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470363#470363
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| Subject: | No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter |
Belgium
https://www.ecac-ceac.org/home-built-aircraft
and
https://www.ecac-ceac.org/documents/10189/0/HomeBuiltAircraft2015-09.pdf/f6a1d257-bb36-4a89-9043-bc49387663c7
might help... although it still lists for Belgium:
Country IMPLEMENTATION STATUS OF ECAC RECOMMENDATION
BELGIUM NO
Paul M 383
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Watts
Sent: 22 June 2017 11:48
Subject: Re: Europa-List: No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter
Belgium
Yippee, fantastic news and about time.
Ostend, here we come again, we love it there but have effectively been denied for
some years.
Dave Watts,
G-BXDY Classic Mono
> On 22 Jun 2017, at 11:07, Roland <schmidtroland@web.de> wrote:
>
>
> I didn't find a link yet, but on PPRUNE I found:
>
> PRESS RELEASE 21 June 2017 For immediate release In a joint effort the European
Federation of Light, Experimental & Vintage Aircraft (EFLEVA), the Vereniging
Vlaamse MotorVliegclubs (VVMV) and the Belgian Aviation Authorities we are
pleased to announce that amateur-built and certain historic aircraft registered
in European Civil Aviation Conference (ECAC) member states no longer require
a permit to over fly Belgian territory for 30 days in a calendar year. A Royal
Decr has been published on 21 June 2017 which confirms and details this change.
It comes in effect on 1 July.
>
> That's Europe how it SHOULD be :-)
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470363#470363
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| Subject: | No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter |
Belgium
Full details are on the LAA website. It may take a short while for all info sources
to be updated.
Regards
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mansfield
Sent: 22 June 2017 12:21
Subject: RE: Europa-List: No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter
Belgium
--> <europaul383@hotmail.com>
https://www.ecac-ceac.org/home-built-aircraft
and
https://www.ecac-ceac.org/documents/10189/0/HomeBuiltAircraft2015-09.pdf/f6a1d257-bb36-4a89-9043-bc49387663c7
might help... although it still lists for Belgium:
Country IMPLEMENTATION STATUS OF ECAC RECOMMENDATION
BELGIUM NO
Paul M 383
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Watts
Sent: 22 June 2017 11:48
Subject: Re: Europa-List: No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter
Belgium
Yippee, fantastic news and about time.
Ostend, here we come again, we love it there but have effectively been denied for
some years.
Dave Watts,
G-BXDY Classic Mono
> On 22 Jun 2017, at 11:07, Roland <schmidtroland@web.de> wrote:
>
>
> I didn't find a link yet, but on PPRUNE I found:
>
> PRESS RELEASE 21 June 2017 For immediate release In a joint effort the European
Federation of Light, Experimental & Vintage Aircraft (EFLEVA), the Vereniging
Vlaamse MotorVliegclubs (VVMV) and the Belgian Aviation Authorities we are
pleased to announce that amateur-built and certain historic aircraft registered
in European Civil Aviation Conference (ECAC) member states no longer require
a permit to over fly Belgian territory for 30 days in a calendar year. A Royal
Decr has been published on 21 June 2017 which confirms and details this change.
It comes in effect on 1 July.
>
> That's Europe how it SHOULD be :-)
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470363#470363
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Last year three Europas had a successful trip through Spain and Portugal including
Gibraltar.
I am planning a repeat this July with a possible start date around 17th July.
The trip will take around ten days taking in Segovia and Granada which we missed
last year, and as many other aeroports as we can.
Please contact me if you wish to join the group which is two Europas at present.
Permission will be required from Spanish and Portugese authorities so early decision
will be helpful.
Regards
Dave Park
G-LDVO
Mob. 07789 755301
Home. 0161 282 2137
Dpark748@icloud.com
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| Subject: | Club AGM - Saturday Evening Food |
It looks like the weather might play ball this weekend for the club AGM at Popham.
https://www.flyer.co.uk/weather/
I was planning on staying over on Saturday evening to have a few beers and had
decided to fire up the barbie to do some food for myself. It turns out others
will be staying over too and have requested food.
So, I'm planning on a Pealla and can probably cater for around ten (limited by
the size of the paella pan and the number of tiger prawns, squid and chicken I
have).
If you're planning on camping overnight on Saturday after the official proceedings,
and would like to be fed and watered (I have stocked up on some craft beers
and cider), could you let me know and I can provision accordingly.
Cost of food and beer will be at cost.
If you're interested, contact me off list to "book a slot". I'll assign places
on a first come first served basis.
Nigel
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Spain |
David,
Visit www.cavok.pt for the latest notam re GA visiting Portugal. It has unfortunately become more onerous with at least 10 days notice with ANAC in or out through selected airfields.
Regards
Richard S
Sent from my iPad
> On 22 Jun 2017, at 13:45, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>
> Last year three Europas had a successful trip through Spain and Portugal including
Gibraltar.
> I am planning a repeat this July with a possible start date around 17th July.
> The trip will take around ten days taking in Segovia and Granada which we missed
last year, and as many other aeroports as we can.
> Please contact me if you wish to join the group which is two Europas at present.
> Permission will be required from Spanish and Portugese authorities so early decision
will be helpful.
>
> Regards
> Dave Park
> G-LDVO
> Mob. 07789 755301
> Home. 0161 282 2137
> Dpark748@icloud.com
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Light Positioning |
Le 21/06/2017 06:58, italianjon a crit :
>
> @Graham,
>
> I'm not under the LAA scheme, therefore MOD approval isn't an issue for me.
>
Hi all,
The best position for a landing light seems to me somewhere on (under ?)
the left wing, so it is very helpful for the pilot to judge flaring
height in the dark.
Some put them under the cowl, but we usually lose sight of the beam at
the exact moment we would find it useful.
FWIW
--
Best regards,
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Spain |
I saw that, i haven't studied it yet but it refers to extra EU flights and international
flights in to Portugal.
Need to get some clarification??
Dave Park
> On 22 Jun 2017, at 14:33, Richard Scanlan <aspenbuild@me.com> wrote:
>
>
> David,
> Visit www.cavok.pt for the latest notam re GA visiting Portugal. It has unfortunately become more onerous with at least 10 days notice with ANAC in or out through selected airfields.
> Regards
> Richard S
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 13:45, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Last year three Europas had a successful trip through Spain and Portugal including
Gibraltar.
>> I am planning a repeat this July with a possible start date around 17th July.
>> The trip will take around ten days taking in Segovia and Granada which we missed
last year, and as many other aeroports as we can.
>> Please contact me if you wish to join the group which is two Europas at present.
>> Permission will be required from Spanish and Portugese authorities so early
decision will be helpful.
>>
>> Regards
>> Dave Park
>> G-LDVO
>> Mob. 07789 755301
>> Home. 0161 282 2137
>> Dpark748@icloud.com
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Spain |
Richard,
Are you referring to Notam A1924 /17?
Dave Park
> On 22 Jun 2017, at 15:47, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>
> I saw that, i haven't studied it yet but it refers to extra EU flights and international
flights in to Portugal.
> Need to get some clarification??
>
> Dave Park
>
>
>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 14:33, Richard Scanlan <aspenbuild@me.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> David,
>> Visit www.cavok.pt for the latest notam re GA visiting Portugal. It has unfortunately become more onerous with at least 10 days notice with ANAC in or out through selected airfields.
>> Regards
>> Richard S
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 13:45, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Last year three Europas had a successful trip through Spain and Portugal including
Gibraltar.
>>> I am planning a repeat this July with a possible start date around 17th July.
>>> The trip will take around ten days taking in Segovia and Granada which we missed
last year, and as many other aeroports as we can.
>>> Please contact me if you wish to join the group which is two Europas at present.
>>> Permission will be required from Spanish and Portugese authorities so early
decision will be helpful.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Dave Park
>>> G-LDVO
>>> Mob. 07789 755301
>>> Home. 0161 282 2137
>>> Dpark748@icloud.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Spain |
Yes and A1919/17A02. We're not sure if common sense will prevail, but the current
situation is this. Halfway down the notam you will see some 24 a/f where you
can enter/depart. I will pm you with my mail from Jose at Cavok with instructions.
Richard
Sent from my iPad
> On 22 Jun 2017, at 16:12, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>
> Richard,
> Are you referring to Notam A1924 /17?
>
> Dave Park
>
>
>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 15:47, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I saw that, i haven't studied it yet but it refers to extra EU flights and
international flights in to Portugal.
>> Need to get some clarification??
>>
>> Dave Park
>>
>>
>>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 14:33, Richard Scanlan <aspenbuild@me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> David,
>>> Visit www.cavok.pt for the latest notam re GA visiting Portugal. It has unfortunately become more onerous with at least 10 days notice with ANAC in or out through selected airfields.
>>> Regards
>>> Richard S
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 13:45, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Last year three Europas had a successful trip through Spain and Portugal including
Gibraltar.
>>>> I am planning a repeat this July with a possible start date around 17th July.
>>>> The trip will take around ten days taking in Segovia and Granada which we
missed last year, and as many other aeroports as we can.
>>>> Please contact me if you wish to join the group which is two Europas at present.
>>>> Permission will be required from Spanish and Portugese authorities so early
decision will be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Dave Park
>>>> G-LDVO
>>>> Mob. 07789 755301
>>>> Home. 0161 282 2137
>>>> Dpark748@icloud.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | No longer application needed for homebuilts to enter |
Belgium
Don't all rush , unless you have made plans for the Belgium fly in this we
ekend
wait for the new scheme to come into effect on 1st July
Tim
>
> On 22 June 2017 at 12:20 Paul Mansfield <europaul383@hotmail.com> wro
te:
>
>
> <europaul383@hotmail.com>
>
> https://www.ecac-ceac.org/home-built-aircraft
> and
>
> https://www.ecac-ceac.org/documents/10189/0/HomeBuiltAircraft2015-09.p
df/f6a1d257-bb36-4a89-9043-bc49387663c7
>
> might help... although it still lists for Belgium:
>
> Country IMPLEMENTATION STATUS OF ECAC RECOMMENDATION
> BELGIUM NO
>
> Paul M 383
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Watts
> Sent: 22 June 2017 11:48
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: No longer application needed for homebuilts
to
> enter Belgium
>
>
>
> Yippee, fantastic news and about time.
> Ostend, here we come again, we love it there but have effectively bee
n
> denied for some years.
>
> Dave Watts,
> G-BXDY Classic Mono
>
> > On 22 Jun 2017, at 11:07, Roland <schmidtroland@web.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I didn't find a link yet, but on PPRUNE I found:
> >
> > PRESS RELEASE =93 21 June 2017 For immediate release In a joi
nt effort the
> > European Federation of Light, Experimental & Vintage Aircraft (EFLE
VA),
> > the Vereniging Vlaamse MotorVliegclubs (VVMV) and the Belgian Aviat
ion
> > Authorities we are pleased to announce that amateur-built and certa
in
> > historic aircraft registered in European Civil Aviation Conference
> > (ECAC) member states no longer require a permit to over fly Belgian
> > territory for 30 days in a calendar year. A Royal Decr=C3=A9 has be
en
> > published on 21 June 2017 which confirms and details this change. I
t
> > comes in effect on 1 July.
> >
> > That's Europe how it SHOULD be :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470363#470363
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Spain |
Thanks Richard
Dave Park
> On 22 Jun 2017, at 17:10, Richard Scanlan <aspenbuild@me.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes and A1919/17A02. We're not sure if common sense will prevail, but the current
situation is this. Halfway down the notam you will see some 24 a/f where
you can enter/depart. I will pm you with my mail from Jose at Cavok with instructions.
> Richard
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 16:12, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Richard,
>> Are you referring to Notam A1924 /17?
>>
>> Dave Park
>>
>>
>>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 15:47, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I saw that, i haven't studied it yet but it refers to extra EU flights and
international flights in to Portugal.
>>> Need to get some clarification??
>>>
>>> Dave Park
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 14:33, Richard Scanlan <aspenbuild@me.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David,
>>>> Visit www.cavok.pt for the latest notam re GA visiting Portugal. It has unfortunately become more onerous with at least 10 days notice with ANAC in or out through selected airfields.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Richard S
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 13:45, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Last year three Europas had a successful trip through Spain and Portugal
including Gibraltar.
>>>>> I am planning a repeat this July with a possible start date around 17th July.
>>>>> The trip will take around ten days taking in Segovia and Granada which we
missed last year, and as many other aeroports as we can.
>>>>> Please contact me if you wish to join the group which is two Europas at present.
>>>>> Permission will be required from Spanish and Portugese authorities so early
decision will be helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Dave Park
>>>>> G-LDVO
>>>>> Mob. 07789 755301
>>>>> Home. 0161 282 2137
>>>>> Dpark748@icloud.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Light Positioning |
Jon if you send me an email to Spcialeffects@aol.com i will send you a photo of
my landing lights. I am building a classic (foam wings) mono wheel and have incorporated
them into the outrigger speed fairings.
Regards Frank Kit#165
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