---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/21/17: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:31 AM - Lydeway fly-in (Richard Collins) 2. 01:32 AM - Re: First solo A238 (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 3. 02:09 AM - Texel fly-in next weekend (Roland) 4. 02:26 AM - Re: Texel fly-in next weekend (Alan Burrill) 5. 02:32 AM - Re: Texel fly-in next weekend (david park) 6. 03:53 AM - Re: Toe Brakes with Parking Brake (Peter Jeffers) 7. 06:38 AM - Re: First solo A238 (Erich) 8. 07:04 AM - Re: Re: First solo A238 (William Daniell) 9. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: First solo A238 (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 10. 10:42 AM - Re: Re: First solo A238 (William Daniell) 11. 12:18 PM - Conversion guidance help needed from newbie :-) (rainbow462) 12. 01:09 PM - Re: Conversion guidance help needed from newbie :-) (Scudrunner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:56 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Lydeway fly-in From: Richard Collins If any Europa flyers are not committed to other events this weekend they may be interested in visiting Lydeway Field for Nigel Charles' annual BBQ. Due to some cancellations there are slots available. Lydeway is a lovely long, level and smooth strip SE Devizes. Contact Nigel at nigelcharles123@gmail.com for briefing . Do not archive. Sent via iPad ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:32:06 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: First solo A238 William, Congratulations on behalf of the Club. It would be good to have a brief account of your build process (+ trials & tribulations!) and the first flight for the Europa Flyer. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2017-08-20 15:08, William Daniell wrote: > Thanks to everyone. ..couldnt have dont it without everyone's help. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:39 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Texel fly-in next weekend From: "Roland" Friends, I saw on the participant list, that a few Europas are registered already. I hope to meet at least the usual subjects :-) Cheers Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472031#472031 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:26:52 AM PST US From: Alan Burrill Subject: Re: Europa-List: Texel fly-in next weekend Yes planning on being there and keeping an eye on the Wx this week to judge best day for routing outbound. Tent has already dried out from the Old Timers Fly-in See you there Alan G-OBJT Sent from my iPad > On 21 Aug 2017, at 10:08, Roland wrote: > > > Friends, > > I saw on the participant list, that a few Europas are registered already. I hope to meet at least the usual subjects :-) > > Cheers > Roland > PH-ZTI > XS TG 914 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472031#472031 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Texel fly-in next weekend From: david park Have to miss this year,Airmaster prop control in New Zealand still? with fault after Spain trip. Dave Park G-LDVO > On 21 Aug 2017, at 10:26, Alan Burrill wrote: > > > Yes planning on being there and keeping an eye on the Wx this week to judge best day for routing outbound. > > Tent has already dried out from the Old Timers Fly-in > > See you there > > Alan > G-OBJT > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 21 Aug 2017, at 10:08, Roland wrote: >> >> >> Friends, >> >> I saw on the participant list, that a few Europas are registered already. I hope to meet at least the usual subjects :-) >> >> Cheers >> Roland >> PH-ZTI >> XS TG 914 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472031#472031 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:35 AM PST US From: "Peter Jeffers" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Toe Brakes with Parking Brake Hi Bob, I intend to attend the LAA rally on Saturday. Weather permitting it will be in my a/c so you can have a look-see at my park brake system. I am deliberately not sending the mod details since very little of it really refers to what you intend to do with your machine. I only make the comparison, that you seem to be using all the same components as me and I have not found any problems. Your actual physical installation will inevitably be quite different. You should be able to find me on the Europa Club stand around midday on Saturday as I am supposed to be manning it around that time. Regards Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Jeffers Sent: 18 August 2017 09:18 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Toe Brakes with Parking Brake --> Hi Bob, I have got a mod approved by the LAA which uses the old foot brake cylinders (Kart) together with the PVPV-D park brake cylinder. The system works just fine but I do have it operating as finger brakes. What you are proposing is the same hydraulically as we have, only leaving the Kart cylinders on the floor instead of the pedestal. If you would like to contact me personally for more information then please call me on 07720985011 or direct to my personal email address pjeffers@talktalk.net Regards Pete Jeffers -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BobD Sent: 17 August 2017 15:11 Subject: Europa-List: Toe Brakes with Parking Brake Has anyone experience of installing a Parking Brake with the standard Tri-Gear Toe Brakes ? I have read the various 33T documents from the Builders Manual, but only the Finger Brake version mentions the Parking Brake, and I have no wish to convert to the Finger Brakes. I am wondering if something like the MATCO PVPV-D can be used in line between the standard Toe Brake Cylinders and the Wheel Brakes , or if further modifications of the hydraulics system are required ? I have added a diagram from the MATCO website which shows the PVPV_D installed with their vertical brake cylinders, but the comment about their vented reservoir cap being the highest point in the system concerns me, considering that the standard cylinders used on the Europa are horizontal. -------- Bob Dawson XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471928#471928 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/matco_109.pdf --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:33 AM PST US From: Erich Subject: Europa-List: Re: First solo A238 Congratulations William! Where are you based? Erich N28ET Classic Monowheel ____________________________________________________________ Police Urge Americans to Carry This With Them at All Times The Observer http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/599ae1d76269c61d62919st04vuc ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:24 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: First solo A238 Bogota colombia I just flew with density alt at skgy at 9434! Thats taking off at 8500 Lucky i have a turbo On Aug 21, 2017 08:41, "Erich" wrote: > Congratulations William! Where are you based? > > > Erich > > N28ET Classic Monowheel > > > ____________________________________________________________ > *Police Urge Americans to Carry This With Them at All Times* > The Observer > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/599ae1d76269c61d62919st04vuc > [image: SponsoredBy Content.Ad] > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:32 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: First solo A238 That must be at least three Europas in Colombia?Graham On Monday, 21 August 2017, 15:05, William Daniell wrote: Bogota colombia I just flew with density alt at skgy at 9434! Thats taking off at 8500 Lucky i have a turbo On Aug 21, 2017 08:41, "Erich" wrote: Congratulations William!=C2- Where are you based?=C2-Erich N28ET Classi c Monowheel ______________________________ ______________________________ Police Urge Americans to Carry This With Them at All Times The Observer http://thirdpartyoffers.juno. com/TGL3132/ 599ae1d76269c61d62919st04vuc ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:42:41 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: First solo A238 Quite right! One chap is building in seties and has just imported 5 kits. There are at least 3 others apart from mine. On Aug 21, 2017 11:38, "GRAHAM SINGLETON" wrote: That must be at least three Europas in Colombia? Graham On Monday, 21 August 2017, 15:05, William Daniell < wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wrote: Bogota colombia I just flew with density alt at skgy at 9434! Thats taking off at 8500 Lucky i have a turbo On Aug 21, 2017 08:41, "Erich" wrote: Congratulations William! Where are you based? Erich N28ET Classic Monowheel ______________________________ ______________________________ *Police Urge Americans to Carry This With Them at All Times* The Observer http://thirdpartyoffers.juno. com/TGL3132/ 599ae1d76269c61d62919st04vuc [image: SponsoredBy Content.Ad] ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:18:44 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Conversion guidance help needed from newbie :-) From: "rainbow462" Hi everyone Just joined the forum as I'm seeking a little conversion wisdom from the group, as I've been offered a half share in a Europa XS monowheel. I currently have a PPL (M) with lots of flexwing experience but minimal 3 axis, so just a couple of questions. I've written to the LAA, the Europa club, Europa Ltd, spoken to a few schools and devoured the web but am still not crystal on the best way forward, so thoughts welcome...... 1..Am I right in thinking that I can fly a Europa on a NPPL (SSAE) if I plan to keep to the UK? I think I need to do min 3 hours+an exam, but would obviously do whatever is required to reach the standard/be comfortable. 2..Assuming the above any guidance welcome on the best way of going about this? Could it be better to do the NPPL and taildragger conversion at the same time on the Europa, or to to do the NPPL first (probably on some sort of non Europa tri gear) and then separately converting to the Europa afterwards. 3..If I separate the NPPL and the Conversion, any recommendations for things I should bear in mind for the NPPL bit e.g type of school aircraft to aim for? Does it matter most school aircraft seem to be tri gearand potentially very different from the Europa? Sorry for all the questions and many thanks in advance for any answers Jeremy based Hampshire (near Popham) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472047#472047 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:09:12 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Conversion guidance help needed from newbie :-) From: "Scudrunner" Hi Jeremy, I'm sure lots of people will pitch in, but I just wanted to say that I've been flying my Europa Classic Monowheel on an NPPL for the last 10 years or so. Monowheel is a bit like a taildragger and a bit not like a tail dragger. There is a very good write up by Mike Gregory referencing John Brownlow on ground handling a monowheel. I tend to paraphrase it by saying keep the tailwheel on the ground for as long as possible on take off and get it on the ground as soon as possible on landing - this is not classic taildragger, where you often hold the tailwheel off the ground. There should be plenty of people available to help convert via the LAA or Europa club. The bit I struggled with was the height reference - the monowheel is very low to the ground, much lower than most things you might train on. My only taildragger experience before the monowheel was on a 3 axis microlight and I did my NPPL conversion on a Bolkow Junior. I did get expert Europa club conversion on to the monowheel and can't overstate the value of that to me. I admit that I largely stick to grass and avoid significant cross winds - this might be a problem if I used the aircraft for touring, but I don't, I just fly for the fun of it. I don't think that the monowheel is difficult to handle, it just requires a specific technique and perhaps a more sensitive hand? (you can't just plonk it on and apply the brakes!) Best of luck. 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