---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/22/17: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:31 AM - Europa Club Dinner (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 2. 05:01 AM - Throttle and choke cable length (jglazener) 3. 05:29 AM - Re: Throttle and choke cable length (William Daniell) 4. 05:29 AM - Re: First solo A238 (William Daniell) 5. 05:43 AM - Last of the summer wine (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 6. 05:45 AM - Re: First solo A238 (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 7. 06:01 AM - Re: Throttle and choke cable length (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 8. 07:17 AM - Re: Last of the summer wine (James Kelly) 9. 08:07 AM - brakes on rudder pedals (olihqt) 10. 09:44 AM - Re: Arplast PV50 pitch change motor (Matt Dovey) 11. 10:06 AM - Re: Europa Club Dinner (john simon firth) 12. 10:27 AM - Re: Last of the summer wine (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 13. 01:04 PM - Re: brakes on rudder pedals (Kevin Challis) 14. 01:23 PM - Re: Europa Club Dinner (James Kelly) 15. 04:11 PM - Re: brakes on rudder pedals (William Daniell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:33 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Europa-List: Europa Club Dinner REMINDER - ANNUAL DINNER 23 September Charlecote Pheasant Hotel, Near Wellesbourne Mountfield The hotel is holding rooms available at a reduced rate only until this Saturday, 25th August, so get your booking in! Full details on the new club website www.theeuropaclub.org [1] Hope to see you there, David Joyce, GXSDJ Links: ------ [1] http://www.theeuropaclub.org ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:01:24 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Throttle and choke cable length From: "jglazener" I have just threaded the throttle and choke cables through the firewall. They turn out to be twice as long as needed to fix them to the engine. Shortening them does not seem to be an option so what to do? Loop them around? Behind or in front of the firewall? -------- Jeroen http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=44165 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472056#472056 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:39 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle and choke cable length Jeroen yes I had the same confusion....and almost shortened them. Dont! However the throttle cables loop forwards of the firewall i suppose to give smooth curves (as it were). It is a full 360 deg loop. Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:00 AM, jglazener wrote: > > I have just threaded the throttle and choke cables through the firewall. > They turn out to be twice as long as needed to fix them to the engine. > Shortening them does not seem to be an option so what to do? Loop them > around? Behind or in front of the firewall? > > -------- > Jeroen > > http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=44165 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472056#472056 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:43 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: First solo A238 David I would be delighted. give me about two weeks. Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 3:31 AM, wrote: > William, Congratulations on behalf of the Club. It would be good to have > a brief account of your build process (+ trials & tribulations!) and the > first flight for the Europa Flyer. > > Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > > On 2017-08-20 15:08, William Daniell wrote: > > Thanks to everyone. ..couldnt have dont it without everyone's help. > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:33 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Europa-List: Last of the summer wine I have had a few expressions of interest in the LOSW (or Guiness) trip, but it would be good to hear now from anyone who may think of joining so that we can sort out organisational matters. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:17 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: First solo A238 William, thanks. No tearing rush as the upcoming issue has just gone to press, although nothing like putting pen to paper whilst the process and excitement of the first flight is still fresh in the mind! David On 2017-08-22 13:28, William Daniell wrote: > David I would be delighted. give me about two weeks. > Will > > William Daniell LONGPORT > > +57 310 295 0744 > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 3:31 AM, wrote: > > William, Congratulations on behalf of the Club. It would be good to have a brief account of your build process (+ trials & tribulations!) and the first flight for the Europa Flyer. > > Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > On 2017-08-20 15:08, William Daniell wrote: > Thanks to everyone. ..couldnt have dont it without everyone's help. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:07 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle and choke cable length Jeroen, Things may have changed or be different for a non 914, but the way my 914 fitted in 2002 and have just refitted in last couple of months was for both the choke and throttle cables to split to either side of the engine. The choke cables then take a gentle curve inwards, run alongside each other just in front of the air box (but in different directions) to come at the top of the carb on the other side from where they started. Those cables were the correct length. The throttle cables however just run directly to the carb on their initial side with a slight S bend but no loop or deviation across the midline. I cannot remember for certain now whether they were longer than needed, although I think they were, but shortening them should not be a problem. Cut the outer to the required length with the inner wire withdrawn. Replace the inner wire and cut that once you have threaded it through the throttle attachment and having put a bit of tight heat shrink over the bit you are going to cut, to stop it splaying. Friction within the throttle sheathing is a potential problem as you are relying on a fairly weak spring to pull the throttle wide open, so you want gentle curves and no more than necessary. Regards, David Joyce On 2017-08-22 13:27, William Daniell wrote: > Jeroen > > yes I had the same confusion....and almost shortened them. Dont! > > However the throttle cables loop forwards of the firewall i suppose to give smooth curves (as it were). It is a full 360 deg loop. > > Will > > William Daniell LONGPORT > > +57 310 295 0744 > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:00 AM, jglazener wrote: > >> >> I have just threaded the throttle and choke cables through the firewall. They turn out to be twice as long as needed to fix them to the engine. Shortening them does not seem to be an option so what to do? Loop them around? 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Best wishes Jim KELLY G-BWEG On 22 Aug 2017 1:50 p.m., wrote: > I have had a few expressions of interest in the LOSW (or Guiness) trip, > but it would be good to hear now from anyone who may think of joining so > that we can sort out organisational matters. > > Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:01 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: brakes on rudder pedals From: "olihqt" Hello, I am new owner of a europa trigear and I am looking for plans to modify the brakes and thus have brakes on the rudder pedal. Has anyone on the forum ever made this change? thank you. Olivier Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472063#472063 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:18 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Arplast PV50 pitch change motor From: "Matt Dovey" Hi Jon, No worries. I don't know about the other part number motor. Heard that there are failures of the motors due to the voltage. You could contact the manufacture and ask them about the spec of the 12V motor. Matt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472064#472064 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:06:18 AM PST US From: john simon firth Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Club Dinner Hello David, Unfortunately i cannot attend as I am in France for the second half of September. Best regards, John Firth. > On 22 Aug 2017, at 10:04, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote: > > REMINDER - ANNUAL DINNER 23 September > > Charlecote Pheasant Hotel, Near Wellesbourne Mountfield > > The hotel is holding rooms available at a reduced rate only until this Saturday, 25th August, so get your booking in! Full details on the new club website www.theeuropaclub.org > Hope to see you there, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:27:32 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Last of the summer wine Jim, It's as advertised in the Europa mag and website, that is 10-14 September. Regards, David On 2017-08-22 15:17, James Kelly wrote: > Hello David, what dates do you have in mind. > Best wishes Jim KELLY G-BWEG > > On 22 Aug 2017 1:50 p.m., wrote: > >> I have had a few expressions of interest in the LOSW (or Guiness) trip, but it would be good to hear now from anyone who may think of joining so that we can sort out organisational matters. >> >> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:32 PM PST US From: Kevin Challis Subject: Re: Europa-List: brakes on rudder pedals Have you tried the finger brakes? I thought I would change to toe brakes but once I tried the finger brakes I found them fine. Kevin Challis G ODJG > On 22 Aug 2017, at 17:06, olihqt wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am new owner of a europa trigear and I am looking for plans to modify the brakes and thus have brakes on the rudder pedal. Has anyone on the forum ever made this change? > > thank you. > Olivier > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472063#472063 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:23:30 PM PST US From: James Kelly Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Club Dinner Hi David, My apologise, Unfortunately I'm unable to attend the club dinner. Best wishes to all. Jim On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 6:05 PM, john simon firth wrote: > Hello David, > > Unfortunately i cannot attend as I am in France for the second half of > September. > > Best regards, John Firth. > > > On 22 Aug 2017, at 10:04, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote: > > REMINDER - ANNUAL DINNER 23 September > > Charlecote Pheasant Hotel, Near Wellesbourne Mountfield > > The hotel is holding rooms available at a reduced rate only until > this Saturday, 25th August, so get your booking in! Full details on the > new club website www.theeuropaclub.org > > Hope to see you there, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:11:21 PM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: brakes on rudder pedals I agree with kevin...thought finger brakes would require too much coordination. After the third high speed taxi no problem at all. On Aug 22, 2017 15:08, "Kevin Challis" wrote: Have you tried the finger brakes? I thought I would change to toe brakes but once I tried the finger brakes I found them fine. Kevin Challis G ODJG > On 22 Aug 2017, at 17:06, olihqt wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am new owner of a europa trigear and I am looking for plans to modify the brakes and thus have brakes on the rudder pedal. Has anyone on the forum ever made this change? > > thank you. > Olivier > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472063#472063 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.