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Sat 08/26/17


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 04:12 AM - Re: Re: Medical Answer (William Daniell)
     2. 07:32 AM - Re: Medical Answer (rampil)
     3. 08:59 AM - Re: Throttle and choke cable length (Rowland Carson)
     4. 09:58 AM - Re: Who has Nev's cowlings (Rowland Carson)
     5. 11:17 AM - Re: Who has Nev's cowlings (philip george)
     6. 01:22 PM - Re: Who has Nev's cowlings (Rowland Carson)
     7. 02:57 PM - Re: Who has Nev's cowlings (spcialeffects)
     8. 04:54 PM - Re: Throttle and choke cable length (aporue)
     9. 11:24 PM - Re: Who has Nev's cowlings (Sky)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:12:57 AM PST US
    From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Medical Answer
    When i did this 20 years ago after an eye accident i had to get a "CODA"....certificate of demonstrated ability from an faa flight examiner. Basically he just checked i could fly..no big deal. My faa medical examiner organized it. Will On Aug 25, 2017 04:22, "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Mike, This should not be anything other than a minor hiccup in your flying! Get that form in to OKC and you should be back in the air in no time. There are plenty of guys flying with treated Ret Dets. Under Basic Med pilots with with a new disqualifying condition must also self-ground. They would also need an eye consult. I am unfamiliar with the exact protocol for what needs to happen next since I don't do basic med exams. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472163#472163


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    Time: 07:32:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Medical Answer
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    Hi Will, A SODA (Statement of Demonstrated Ability) applies to a permanent major condition. Something like a limb amputation or, if I hazard a guess, near or complete blindness in one eye. That would NOT apply here with normal, or at least passing visual acuity (20/40) in both eyes. There are lots of people flying with only one eye, but it is a different pathway than a repaired Ret Det. Ira (FAA Designated Senior AME) -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472212#472212


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    Time: 08:59:53 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Throttle and choke cable length
    On 2017-08-22, at 13:00, jglazener <j.glazener@planet.nl> wrote: > I have just threaded the throttle and choke cables through the firewall. They turn out to be twice as long as needed to fix them to the engine. Shortening them does not seem to be an option so what to do? Loop them around? Behind or in front of the firewall? Jeroen - apologies for slow reply. I didnt shorten mine. You can see the way they run on this page of my build journal: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/firewall_wiring.php in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson


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    Time: 09:58:56 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Who has Nev's cowlings
    On 23 Aug 2017, at 13:49, spcialeffects <spcialeffects@aol.com> wrote: > I thought it might be of interest if we put together a post of who has nev's cowls, what engine mount was used and what engine. For some reason this original post did not reach me - Ive only seen replies to it. Anyway, here is my contribution. There are pictures of Neville with one of his cowls fitted to an anonymous tri-gear with his own engine mount on the Europa Club website at: http://www.theeuropaclub.org/building/cowl-and-cooling/neville-eyers-revised-cowl NB I note that the webmaster will need to amend the text of that page in the the light of Nevilles untimely death, not to mention getting the spelling of his name right - but he has been rather busy getting new content management tools and hosting arrangements in place recently. I have an XS kit and am installing a Rotax 912S with a Woodcomp high-twist variable-pitch prop. From my conversations with Neville, it sounds as though I am the only one fitting his cowl with a Woodcompp prop. I am using the standard Europa factory mount and firewall (although I am having trouble getting that to fit - it looks as though it would be much easier if I could get one of Graham Singletons composite firewalls - anyone want to take over manufacture of them?). I persuaded Neville to cut out & fold for me the horizontal baffles that separate the upper & lower parts of the cowl, and also to supply new side pieces for the duct underneath the engine that houses the radiators. (The standard factory items could have been extended to fit his cowl, but I felt it was nicer to have one-piece duct sides.) The aft part of the baffle I designed and made myself following instructions from Neville, as he only had templates for that to suit his own engine mount. Here are some links to pictures of the various relevant items. A test assembly of the cowl and propeller: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/cowl_assemble_e.php Cowl fitted: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/cowl_screws_tempo.php Horizontal baffle fitting: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/semicircle_cut.php http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/baffle_fit_a.php http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/baffle_fit_b.php http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/baffle_fit_c.php Aft baffle card template: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/aft_baffle_template_a.php http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/aft_baffle_template_b.php Aft baffle: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/aft_baffle.php Fitting radiator duct: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/duct_fitting_1.php http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/duct_fit_c.php I had a phone call recently from Jag Chaggar. He says he has acquired the moulds for Nevilles cowl and wondered if I had any idea how many layers of layup were needed on them. I think he has a 914 installation, on an airframe imported from USA, but Im not sure if he is on this forum. LAA mod 13452 refers to G-RICS which has an Airmaster prop and a 912S. I think it is using the standard Europa factory engine mount. It appears to be a conventional taildragger. Hope some of the above is of use/interest. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson


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    Time: 11:17:54 AM PST US
    From: philip george <philipgeorge347@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Who has Nev's cowlings
    Hi Rowland I am active with Jag regarding Nev's cowl moulds and am going to help him with the layup of the cowls. In fact I asked the question of the number of layers of bid. I think it is probably 2 with reinforcements in certain cr itical areas. Regards Phil George X'S mono G-EORJ Sent from my Samsung device -------- Original message -------- From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Who has Nev's cowlings On 23 Aug 2017, at 13:49, spcialeffects <spcialeffects@aol.com> wrote: > I thought it might be of interest if we put together a post of who has ne v's cowls, what engine mount was used and what engine. For some reason this original post did not reach me - I=92ve only seen repl ies to it. Anyway, here is my contribution. There are pictures of Neville with one of his cowls fitted to an anonymous tri-gear with his own engine mount on the Europa Club website at: http://www.theeuropaclub.org/building/cowl-and-cooling/neville-eyer=92s-rev ised-cowl NB I note that the webmaster will need to amend the text of that page in th e the light of Neville=92s untimely death, not to mention getting the spell ing of his name right - but he has been rather busy getting new content man agement tools and hosting arrangements in place recently. I have an XS kit and am installing a Rotax 912S with a Woodcomp high-twist variable-pitch prop. From my conversations with Neville, it sounds as thoug h I am the only one fitting his cowl with a Woodcompp prop. I am using the standard Europa factory mount and firewall (although I am having trouble ge tting that to fit - it looks as though it would be much easier if I could g et one of Graham Singleton=92s composite firewalls - anyone want to take ov er manufacture of them?). I persuaded Neville to cut out & fold for me the horizontal baffles that se parate the upper & lower parts of the cowl, and also to supply new side pie ces for the duct underneath the engine that houses the radiators. (The stan dard factory items could have been extended to fit his cowl, but I felt it was nicer to have one-piece duct sides.) The aft part of the baffle I desig ned and made myself following instructions from Neville, as he only had tem plates for that to suit his own engine mount. Here are some links to pictures of the various relevant items. A test assembly of the cowl and propeller: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/cowl_assemble_e.php Cowl fitted: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/cowl_screws_tempo.php Horizontal baffle fitting: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/semicircle_cut.php http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/baffle_fit_a.php http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/baffle_fit_b.php http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/baffle_fit_c.php Aft baffle card template: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/aft_baffle_template_a.p hp http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/aft_baffle_template_b.p hp Aft baffle: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/aft_baffle.php Fitting radiator duct: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/duct_fitting_1.php http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/duct_fit_c.php I had a phone call recently from Jag Chaggar. He says he has acquired the m oulds for Neville=92s cowl and wondered if I had any idea how many layers o f layup were needed on them. I think he has a 914 installation, on an airfr ame imported from USA, but I=92m not sure if he is on this forum. LAA mod 13452 refers to G-RICS which has an Airmaster prop and a 912S. I th ink it is using the standard Europa factory engine mount. It appears to be a conventional taildragger. Hope some of the above is of use/interest. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson


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    Time: 01:22:25 PM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Who has Nev's cowlings
    On 2017-08-26, at 18:53, philip george <philipgeorge347@hotmail.com> wrote: > I am active with Jag regarding Nev's cowl moulds and am going to help him with the layup of the cowls. In fact I asked the question of the number of layers of bid. I think it is probably 2 with reinforcements in certain critical areas. Phil - glad to hear you are working with Jag. I promised I would bring some of the offcut trimmed from the edge from my cowl to the LAA Rally and/or the Europa Club dinner so that Jag could see how thick it is. As you say, there will be extra plies in some more high-stressed areas but I cant speak to that. Would pictures of the inside of the cowl be useful? Enough of the layup structure might be visible from the inside (which has no paint or gel-coat). For instance, have a look at: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/cowl_assemble_a.php where although the angle is not ideal, I can see several places where an extra layer or layers has been incorporated. If it helps, I can take better pictures next time I have the cowl off. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson


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    Time: 02:57:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Who has Nev's cowlings
    From: "spcialeffects" <spcialeffects@aol.com>
    Hi Rowland,Frank here. I too have installed a woodcomp prop with extras twist at the roots. It's the new hub design. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472226#472226


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    Time: 04:54:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Throttle and choke cable length
    From: "aporue" <hyndman@eol.co.nz>
    I have read with interest the discussion on the routing of the choke and throttle cables. They were quite long when I installed them some time ago now and I didn't understand why the routing was so convoluted. After a lot of thought I cut my cables and installed them in almost a direct line from the throttle box, up through the tunnel, through the fire wall made a small change in direction and attached them to the carburetor. The choke cables almost the same. From a recessed bracket in the instrument panel up through the fire wall a small change in direction and onto the carburetors. There is almost no friction as there is very little change in direction of the cables. I have used fire retardant sealing for the cables as they go through the fire wall. Have I missed something here, or is there some good reason why you put almost 360 degrees change of direction in the cables? -------- Classic Monowheel Rotax 914. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472232#472232


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    Time: 11:24:34 PM PST US
    From: Sky <richard.churchill-coleman@sky.com>
    Subject: Re: Who has Nev's cowlings
    Hi Rowland To make you feel less lonely, I have Nev's cowls, 912S and a Woodcomp 3000 with Scimitar blades. Unfortunately I'm a long way off fitting them all! Richard CC Sent from my iPhone > On 26 Aug 2017, at 22:15, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 2017-08-26, at 18:53, philip george <philipgeorge347@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> I am active with Jag regarding Nev's cowl moulds and am going to help him with the layup of the cowls. In fact I asked the question of the number of layers of bid. I think it is probably 2 with reinforcements in certain critical areas. > > > Phil - glad to hear you are working with Jag. I promised I would bring some of the offcut trimmed from the edge from my cowl to the LAA Rally and/or the Europa Club dinner so that Jag could see how thick it is. As you say, there will be extra plies in some more high-stressed areas but I cant speak to that. Would pictures of the inside of the cowl be useful? Enough of the layup structure might be visible from the inside (which has no paint or gel-coat). For instance, have a look at: > > http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/cowl_assemble_a.php > > where although the angle is not ideal, I can see several places where an extra layer or layers has been incorporated. If it helps, I can take better pictures next time I have the cowl off. > > in friendship > > Rowland > > > > > >




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