---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/15/17: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:58 AM - Re: VENTILATION IN FLIGHT & POSITIVE CABIN PRESSURE (clivesutton) 2. 01:39 AM - Re: Re: VENTILATION IN FLIGHT & POSITIVE CABIN PRESSURE (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 3. 06:51 AM - Re: VENTILATION IN FLIGHT & POSITIVE CABIN PRESSURE (h&jeuropa) 4. 07:18 AM - Re: Looks like Bud's area wasn't hit to bad (Bud Yerly) 5. 11:14 AM - Re: Re: VENTILATION IN FLIGHT & POSITIVE CABIN PRESSURE (david park) 6. 12:34 PM - Re: Re: VENTILATION IN FLIGHT & POSITIVE CABIN PRESSURE (Fred Klein) 7. 01:56 PM - Re: Looks like Bud's area wasn't hit to bad (Mike Christine Duane) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:59 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: VENTILATION IN FLIGHT & POSITIVE CABIN PRESSURE From: "clivesutton" If i may chip in on this: I have two of the Ultimate Ventilators - each fitted in the side quarter section of the windscreen. Though ridiculously expensive, they work well when you need a blast of cold air - and their design helps to be able to direct that air blast. I have a Fireangel CO monitor mounted on the firewall part of the parcel shelf facing the P2 seat (that i fitted with an 'off' switch to try and improve battery life). It's interesting to note how the CO levels vary on a flight: a) The levels are Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472897#472897 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:39:24 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: VENTILATION IN FLIGHT & POSITIVE CABIN PRESSURE Clive, Replying to your suggestion that perhaps one of our medical friends will comment on the significance of lower levels of carbon monoxide exposure, my answer would be that anyone who has taken the trouble to read Wikipedia on the subject is likely to know as much or more than the majority of doctors who are not working in toxicology! I would say that no carbon monoxide is best to aim for but moderate levels only put you in the same state as a smoker ( I guess without the cancer risks), but you will have worked that out for yourself! Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2017-09-15 08:58, clivesutton wrote: > > If i may chip in on this: > > I have two of the Ultimate Ventilators - each fitted in the side quarter section of the windscreen. Though ridiculously expensive, they work well when you need a blast of cold air - and their design helps to be able to direct that air blast. > > I have a Fireangel CO monitor mounted on the firewall part of the parcel shelf facing the P2 seat (that i fitted with an 'off' switch to try and improve battery life). It's interesting to note how the CO levels vary on a flight: > > a) The levels are > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472897#472897 [1] > Links: ------ [1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472897#472897 [2] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [3] http://forums.matronics.com [4] http://wiki.matronics.com [5] http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:01 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: VENTILATION IN FLIGHT & POSITIVE CABIN PRESSURE From: "h&jeuropa" Remi Guerner shows his solution to this problem in Europa Flyer Issue 84, page 17. It's simple and Remi says it works well. Jim Butcher Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472902#472902 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:02 AM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: Looks like Bud's area wasn't hit to bad To all: We made it through Hurricane Irma just fine. The eye went over our house i n Valrico about 1AM on Monday. Winds on the West side of the eye wall were only 80-90 mph. Trees were knocked down and power out until Thursday. Th e shop had some screws come out of the roofing and only a few drips. Many limbs and branches to clean up. The Plant City Airport hangar I use is fin e. The shaking just made a mess of the interior due to paint and dirt/bird droppings falling from the ceilings. Just cleanup. At home, we were prepared. Storm surge/ waters have to hit 100 feet to get to my house, we have a 5500 watt generator, water purifiers, a 15,000 gall on pool for a water source, plenty of food and of course plywood for coveri ng up windows. We don=92t power our AC unit so fans were necessary to beat the heat. Our home is reinforced to Cat 2 hurricane standards and we have seen 115 mph winds before. Our roof has not just new shingles, we have a peel and stick, self healing membrane on the roof. To meet cat three I jus t need ply on my patio / lani doors and internal reinforced garage door sup ports. It is OK for us to weather a Cat 2 but trust me, I won=92t be here for a Cat 3. Not worth it. I feel bad about the East coast of Florida as they never expected the storm surge of water of which almost nothing can be done about the flooding and power of water. Shame, as most of us never saw that coming with the storm over the West coast and moving north so fast, but it was a very large storm and even ships were floated inland as far north as South Carolina. The st orm luckily missed Key West and although power was out, and trees are down, the city is not too bad considering. We don=92t know how Creighton Smith =92s house is yet on Pine Island which is between Sarasota and Fort Meyers. I think Ira Rampil in Griffin Ga. had more wind, tornados and rain than I did. He did well as his place is well built. Best Regards, Bud and Anita Yerly Sent from Mail for Window s 10 From: AirEupora Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:34 AM Subject: Europa-List: Looks like Bud's area wasn't hit to bad http://tbtpics.tampabay.com/news/weather/hurricanes/hillsborough-spared-wid espread-damage-from-hurricane-irma/2337039 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472780#472780 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:14:01 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: VENTILATION IN FLIGHT & POSITIVE CABIN PRESSURE From: david park These indicators have three levels but not parts per million? And rely on yo u seeing it before you nod off to sleep! Dave Park > On 15 Sep 2017, at 09:37, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote: > > Clive, Replying to your suggestion that perhaps one of our medical friends will comment on the significance of lower levels of carbon monoxide exposur e, my answer would be that anyone who has taken the trouble to read Wikipedi a on the subject is likely to know as much or more than the majority of doct ors who are not working in toxicology! I would say that no carbon monoxide i s best to aim for but moderate levels only put you in the same state as a sm oker ( I guess without the cancer risks), but you will have worked that out f or yourself! > > Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > > > >> On 2017-09-15 08:58, clivesutton wrote: >> m> >> >> If i may chip in on this: >> >> I have two of the Ultimate Ventilators - each fitted in the side quarter s ection of the windscreen. Though ridiculously expensive, they work well whe n you need a blast of cold air - and their design helps to be able to direct that air blast. >> >> I have a Fireangel CO monitor mounted on the firewall part of the parcel s helf facing the P2 seat (that i fitted with an 'off' switch to try and impro ve battery life). It's interesting to note how the CO levels vary on a flig ht: >> >> a) The levels are >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472897#472897 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> ics.com >> .com >> .matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:55 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: VENTILATION IN FLIGHT & POSITIVE CABIN PRESSURE > On Sep 14, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Brian Davies wrote: > > I had a CO problem about a year ago and carried out some investigation. The big clue, found by using a CO meter, was that the CO doubled when the flaps were down. I talked to Andy Draper who said the exhaust gases could enter via the flap slots and travel forwards through the tunnel and into the cockpit via the various control slots. I resisted cleaning my aircraft for a period and traced exhaust stains along the fuselage that travelled to the (Trigear) leg/fuse join and up to the flap slot. These enhanced wing root fairings cover the flap slot Alsoone of the reasons my bird has yet to fly... ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:56:28 PM PST US From: Mike Christine Duane Subject: Re: Europa-List: Looks like Bud's area wasn't hit to bad Glad to hear you and Anita came through it well. For some reason, I figured y ou would be well-prepared. I believe I have a line on a hanger at Henderson executive airport come Nove mber 1. I also lined up a CFI that has access to a Taildragger, so I can get my BFR and hours to help calm the insurance companies when I contact them. Towards that end, I have a couple of questions so that I know which way to p roceed. Are you still inclined to come out to Las Vegas for the first flight and flight testing? How is your flight status? When I contact the insuranc e company, do I have your name added as a pilot to the policy? I was thinkin g of starting the flight testing the beginning of November. I think we shoul d have nice comfortable weather for the flight testing. How does that sit wi th your schedule. Looking forward to it. Mike Duane N377EA Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2017, at 7:14 AM, Bud Yerly wrote: > > To all: > We made it through Hurricane Irma just fine. The eye went over our house i n Valrico about 1AM on Monday. Winds on the West side of the eye wall were o nly 80-90 mph. Trees were knocked down and power out until Thursday. The s hop had some screws come out of the roofing and only a few drips. Many limb s and branches to clean up. The Plant City Airport hangar I use is fine. T he shaking just made a mess of the interior due to paint and dirt/bird dropp ings falling from the ceilings. Just cleanup. > > At home, we were prepared. Storm surge/ waters have to hit 100 feet to ge t to my house, we have a 5500 watt generator, water purifiers, a 15,000 gall on pool for a water source, plenty of food and of course plywood for coverin g up windows. We don=99t power our AC unit so fans were necessary to b eat the heat. Our home is reinforced to Cat 2 hurricane standards and we ha ve seen 115 mph winds before. Our roof has not just new shingles, we have a peel and stick, self healing membrane on the roof. To meet cat three I jus t need ply on my patio / lani doors and internal reinforced garage door supp orts. It is OK for us to weather a Cat 2 but trust me, I won=99t be h ere for a Cat 3. Not worth it. > > I feel bad about the East coast of Florida as they never expected the stor m surge of water of which almost nothing can be done about the flooding and p ower of water. Shame, as most of us never saw that coming with the storm ov er the West coast and moving north so fast, but it was a very large storm an d even ships were floated inland as far north as South Carolina. The storm l uckily missed Key West and although power was out, and trees are down, the c ity is not too bad considering. We don=99t know how Creighton Smith =99s house is yet on Pine Island which is between Sarasota and Fort Meyer s. I think Ira Rampil in Griffin Ga. had more wind, tornados and rain than I did. He did well as his place is well built. > > Best Regards, > Bud and Anita Yerly > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: AirEupora > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:34 AM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Looks like Bud's area wasn't hit to bad > > > http://tbtpics.tampabay.com/news/weather/hurricanes/hillsborough-spared-wi despread-damage-from-hurricane-irma/2337039 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472780#472780 > > > > > > > ========== > st Email Forum - > pa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > ========== > p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > ums.matronics.com > ========== > p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > matronics.com > ========== > p; - List Contribution Web Site - > p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.