---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 10/11/17: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:27 AM - Brakes (Ian Willis) 2. 09:26 AM - Re: Brakes (Mike Christine Duane) 3. 11:29 AM - Trailer (david park) 4. 05:17 PM - Full trigear speed kit vs hinge fairings only (jonathanmilbank) 5. 06:01 PM - Re: Full trigear speed kit vs hinge fairings only (Fred Klein) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:41 AM PST US From: Ian Willis Subject: Europa-List: Brakes Hi All, I have finger brakes on my "Europa" attached to "Matco" brakes. Does anyone know the spec for the brake pipe and fittings and a supplier other than Europa who appear to be very slow at the moment. Thanks Ian ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:39 AM PST US From: Mike Christine Duane Subject: Re: Europa-List: Brakes I have the same finger brake/Marco setup. Have a look Aircraft/Spruce for brake line tubing and fittings. I used brass fittings through out. They have brake line rated for 1000 psi. Mike Duane Las Vegas, NV N377EA Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Ian Willis wrote: > > > Hi All, > I have finger brakes on my "Europa" attached to "Matco" brakes. > Does anyone know the spec for the brake pipe and fittings and a supplier other than Europa who appear to be very slow at the moment. > > Thanks > > Ian > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:29:30 AM PST US From: david park Subject: Europa-List: Trailer RG9lcyBhbnkgb25lIGtub3cgdGhlIHdlaWdodCBvZiBFdXJvcGEgeHMgd2luZ3MuDQpUbyBkZXNp Z24gVyAmIEIgZm9yIHRyYWlsZXIuDQpTYXZlIG1lIHRha2luZyBteSB3aW5ncyBvZmYuDQpEYXZl IFBhcmsNCg0K ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:11 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Full trigear speed kit vs hinge fairings only From: "jonathanmilbank" I'm reliably informed that the full trigear speed kit, in accurate flight tests before and after installation and flown level at Wide Open Throttle in calm air, showed a full 10 knot speed gain. I'm also informed that the same test performed at 65% power (4800 rpm, 26") gives about a 5 knot gain. But I would prefer to fit only the flap and fuselage hinge fairings, partly because they weigh altogether approx. 1 kg while the full speed kit weighs 4.1 kg (9 lbs). Presumably the flap hinge fairings must give some drag reduction benefit, or else why would they be included in the kit? Please would you tell me from your own experience how much speed is to be gained in the cruise with only flap/fuselage hinge fairings fitted. Thanks. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473486#473486 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:03 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Full trigear speed kit vs hinge fairings only > On Oct 11, 2017, at 5:16 PM, jonathanmilbank wrote: > > > > I'm reliably informed that the full trigear speed kit, in accurate flight tests before and after installation and flown level at Wide Open Throttle in calm air, showed a full 10 knot speed gain. I'm also informed that the same test performed at 65% power (4800 rpm, 26") gives about a 5 knot gain. > > But I would prefer to fit only the flap and fuselage hinge fairings, partly because they weigh altogether approx. 1 kg while the full speed kit weighs 4.1 kg (9 lbs). With the assumption that the wheel spats are part of =9Cthe full trigger speed kit=9D, irrespective of the weight implications, I would venture that they are the major source of the speed gain When you refer to =9Cflap and fuselage hinge fairings=9D (since the fuselage fairings are part of the flap mechanism)I =99m not sure if you=99re referring to both the fairings on the fuselage and the fairings on the wings...the frontal area of the flap hinge wing fairings makes me suspect of any claimed benefit from their installationwhereas the fuselage hinge fairings also function to close holes in the fuselage... - just the uninformed opinions of a would-be mono-driver Fred ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.