---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/24/17: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:30 AM - Re: ELT (italianjon) 2. 07:48 AM - Re: Re: ELT (William Daniell) 3. 09:15 AM - Re: ELT (Ivor) 4. 10:30 AM - Re: Re: ELT (William Daniell) 5. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: ELT (Fred Klein) 6. 10:43 AM - Re: Re: ELT (Fred Klein) 7. 01:06 PM - Re: Re: ELT (Raimo Toivio) 8. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: ELT (Pete) 9. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: ELT (William Daniell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:30:18 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: ELT From: "italianjon" Hi Will, I just went through this exercise. I settled on the Kannad 406. It's not the cheapest but the reliability data won me over. With the whip antenna you can install it within the fuzz so there's no sticking out bits adding drag. Best Jon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473834#473834 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:53 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: ELT Excellent thanks William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Oct 24, 2017 3:33 AM, "italianjon" wrote: > > Hi Will, > > I just went through this exercise. > > I settled on the Kannad 406. It's not the cheapest but the reliability > data won me over. > > With the whip antenna you can install it within the fuzz so there's no > sticking out bits adding drag. > > Best > > Jon > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473834#473834 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:15:01 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: ELT From: "Ivor" And if you are really unlucky and ditch in the sea the ELT goes down with aircraft, If you have a PLB clipped to you and it could make your survival more likely Just my two pennies worth! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473836#473836 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:38 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: ELT Hmmm thanks the very same thought had occurred to me. In Colombia I am not required to have anti collision or navigation lights or an ELT. However I plan to re register my aircraft in the USA when I get there and so I am getting ready for compliance in the USA where both are required, as I understand it. Also I haven't decided on my route. Essentially there are or were three options. 1. Right: Over venezuela to trinidad and then up the islands. Until venezuela began suffering "issues" this was the preferred route. Both relatively quick and fun. 2. Middle: BOG Santa Marta, Curacao, Santo Domingo. This is 350nm over sea. Fast but 350 miles over the sea....hmmmm 3. Left - up Central America. This has 100m over the Darien Gap which is tall jungle. to Ditch in the jungle is probably as dangerous if not more so than sea. So I figure an ELT might be useful in this case. I am researching.... William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Oct 24, 2017 11:22 AM, "Ivor" wrote: And if you are really unlucky and ditch in the sea the ELT goes down with aircraft, If you have a PLB clipped to you and it could make your survival more likely Just my two pennies worth! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473836#473836 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:37:39 AM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: ELT Id prefer to ditch the ELT system than to ditch the aircraft...pity the regulators are stuck in yesterday's low-techI'd vote for a publicly-supported bread crumbs monitoring system > On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Ivor wrote: > > > And if you are really unlucky and ditch in the sea the ELT goes down with aircraft, > If you have a PLB clipped to you and it could make your survival more likely > Just my two pennies worth! > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473836#473836 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:28 AM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: ELT Id prefer to ditch the ELT system than to ditch the aircraft...pity the regulators are stuck in yesterday's low-techI'd vote for a publicly-supported bread crumbs monitoring system > On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Ivor wrote: > > > And if you are really unlucky and ditch in the sea the ELT goes down with aircraft, > If you have a PLB clipped to you and it could make your survival more likely > Just my two pennies worth! > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473836#473836 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:31 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: ELT From: Raimo Toivio Hello Ivor, how about have them both? Cheers, Raimo Toivio ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: ELT From: Pete I concur Fred, I fly with the iridium delorme (now garmin) tracker/texting/plb and it works great (anywhere in the world). I also strap on a very small plb on my leg in case i need to bail :) Who needs elt's that typically break their antennas in serious crashes anyway? > On Oct 24, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Fred Klein wrote: > > > Id prefer to ditch the ELT system than to ditch the aircraft...pity the regulators are stuck in yesterday's low-techI'd vote for a publicly-supported bread crumbs monitoring system > >> On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Ivor wrote: >> >> >> And if you are really unlucky and ditch in the sea the ELT goes down with aircraft, >> If you have a PLB clipped to you and it could make your survival more likely >> Just my two pennies worth! >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473836#473836 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:39 PM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: ELT But arent elt obligatory in the usa? Will On Oct 24, 2017 20:15, "Pete" wrote: > > I concur Fred, > > I fly with the iridium delorme (now garmin) tracker/texting/plb and it > works great (anywhere in the world). I also strap on a very small plb on my > leg in case i need to bail :) > > Who needs elt's that typically break their antennas in serious crashes > anyway? > > > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Fred Klein wrote : > > > > > > I=99d prefer to ditch the ELT system than to ditch the a ircraft...pity > the regulators are stuck in yesterday's low-techI'd vote for a > publicly-supported =9Cbread crumbs=9D monitoring system > > > >> On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Ivor wrote: > >> > >> > >> And if you are really unlucky and ditch in the sea the ELT goes down > with aircraft, > >> If you have a PLB clipped to you and it could make your survival more > likely > >> Just my two pennies worth! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Read this topic online here: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473836#473836 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.