Europa-List Digest Archive

Sat 10/28/17


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:54 AM - Re: Europa Cowl Resin (Remi Guerner)
     2. 04:36 AM - Re: Re: Europa Cowl Resin (Kingsley Hurst)
     3. 04:45 AM - For those of us worried about co... (William Daniell)
     4. 04:55 AM - Re: For those of us worried about co... (Alan Burrill)
     5. 10:12 AM - Re: Re: Europa Cowl Resin (Fred Klein)
     6. 03:57 PM - Re: Europa Cowl Resin (Nigel Graham)
     7. 05:22 PM - Re: Re: Europa Cowl Resin (Pete)
     8. 05:30 PM - New Owner of a 2001 Europa XS (Robert Piskorski)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:54:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Europa Cowl Resin
    From: "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr>
    I remember reading somewere that non structural parts of the XS, including the cowling, were made of polyester, not epoxy. I also suppose a high temperature stuff is needed for those parts. Has anyone the right answer? Remi Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473904#473904


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    Time: 04:36:39 AM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Europa Cowl Resin
    Thank you Pete and Frank and yes Frank, I do have the Classic cowls. Strangely, the inside of my cowls are still a nice pale green colour with no yellowing like other parts of the airframe. I have always been of the opinion they might have some phenolic base in them and when I have cut them, I reckon it smelt very much like polyester. Thanks again men . . . . onwards and hopefully Upwards! Kingsley


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    Time: 04:45:10 AM PST US
    From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
    Subject: For those of us worried about co...
    I was looking at a friend's sport cruiser. The "heater" is just engine compartment air straight through a hole in the firewall. Will


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    Time: 04:55:59 AM PST US
    From: Alan Burrill <alanb@dpy01.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: For those of us worried about co...
    Doesnt that compromise the purpose of the firewall as well? Alan Sent from my iPad > On 28 Oct 2017, at 12:43, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wrote: > > I was looking at a friend's sport cruiser. The "heater" is just engine compartment air straight through a hole in the firewall. > Will


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    Time: 10:12:08 AM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: Re: Europa Cowl Resin
    > On Oct 28, 2017, at 4:35 AM, Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > I have always been of the opinion they might have some phenolic base in them and when I have cut them, I reckon it smelt very much like polyester. KingsleyI believe you=99re correct but have no way to confirmF.


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    Time: 03:57:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Europa Cowl Resin
    From: "Nigel Graham" <nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk>
    Remi is correct. All the grey coloured components supplied with the original kit (cowls, doors, "D" panel and the speed kit) were manufactured with woven glass and polyester resin. If you need a heat tolerant polyester resin for cowling mods, use a "tooling" grade product. These are designed to withstand autoclave temperatures and have minimal shrink characteristics. I use "Optimould". Hope this helps Nigel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473917#473917


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    Time: 05:22:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Europa Cowl Resin
    From: Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Thnks for that info! That means any door strut mods need to be done in poly and not epoxy then? I've not heard that to date....or maybe i wasnt listening ;) Cheers and thx, Pete > On Oct 28, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Nigel Graham <nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk> wrote: > > > Remi is correct. All the grey coloured components supplied with the original kit (cowls, doors, "D" panel and the speed kit) were manufactured with woven glass and polyester resin. > If you need a heat tolerant polyester resin for cowling mods, use a "tooling" grade product. These are designed to withstand autoclave temperatures and have minimal shrink characteristics. I use "Optimould". > > Hope this helps > > Nigel > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473917#473917 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:30:35 PM PST US
    From: Robert Piskorski <rv9a2000@gmail.com>
    Subject: New Owner of a 2001 Europa XS
    Hello, I=99m new to this forum and new to the Europa. Looking for individual/s who know and/or fly the Europa XS Tri Gear in Arizona area. As a new owner of a used Europa, I=99m looking for guidance to help me understand its construction and maintenance. A sort of =9Cmentor=9D if you will. I have never built a plane kit, I=99m a fairly new low time private pilot that may very well be in way over his head. But what I do know is that, I want to make my Europa XS shine and be flying for years to come. I purchased my Europa a little bit over a month ago and immediately started to take it apart to learn about it. Since then I have managed to fixed several wiring issues throughout the aircraft. However, now I =99m getting into areas that I never worked with, example (such as composite repair possibly de-lamination). Needless to say I have questions on how to, what to use, etc.. If anyone here is willing to assist me by giving me advice or point me to resources I can use through my project, please contact me. Thank you




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