---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/21/17: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 09:55 AM - Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution Today! (Matt Dralle) 1. 08:14 AM - Re: Resins, faring compounds, etc, Need help (h&jeuropa) 2. 11:17 AM - Tool kit and spares kit (spcialeffects) 3. 01:21 PM - Re: Tool kit and spares kit (Tim Ward) 4. 04:19 PM - Re: Throttle cables (h&jeuropa) 5. 08:46 PM - Re: Tool kit and spares kit (Bud Yerly) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:07 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:57 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Resins, faring compounds, etc, Need help From: "h&jeuropa" Your summary of CBM1 is correct. While CBM page 1-9 indicates you can use Q-Cel for final finishing, it is not preferred. It is typically used on foam, prior to layup of fiberglass cloth. The second sentence of the last paragraph on page 37-3 says to use Expancel. Expancel is lighter, more flexible and easier to sand; which is why it is better. You should not need to buy any glass microspheres. Expancel should be mixed very dry to keep it light. To be consistent, we used the same amount of Expancel to resin in every batch. We used a 10:1 ratio by volume. This is important if you have to go back and refill if the batches are not consistent, it is difficult to sand evenly as some sections are harder than others (due to more or less epoxy in the mix) so you can get bumps and dips. It is possible that the filler delaminated because it did not adhere properly to the fiberglass. To prevent that, we used a clean dry cloth (old sock) to rub a very small amount of resin on the fiberglass just before spreading the Expancel. Yes, the photo you attached shows pretty thick filler. For some reason we did not receive the original post with photos of the damaged areas so we dont know where that came from. Filler used to blend two areas where one is proud of the other can be somewhat thick, so areas where fairings are glued to the wing near the wing root can have more buildup than other areas. Normally it should not be as thick as the piece in your photo. Since Expancel may be hard to find in the US, some people have used West System 407 / 410 products or Poly Fiber Superfil. We have not used either, maybe others can comment. Jim & Heather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475351#475351 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:17:48 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Tool kit and spares kit From: "spcialeffects" I have just finished my build and am thinking about what tools and what spares to carry when I finally do start spreading my wings? There was a thread on here some time ago which I have a print out of and have come across an article in an old flyer magazine but thought Id ask the question myself.............so what do you carry? Frank, classic kit #165, G-STUE, 3730 hours Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475432#475432 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tool kit and spares kit From: Tim Ward Hi Frank, I carry with me an inner tube for the main tire (Monowheel), spare outrigger arm, battery charger, and a multi craft tool. Along with the glass fuel sampler, small torch, paper maps, required documents, fuel cards, spare headphone batteries, first aid, ELT, window cleaner, oil rag and window cleaning rag. Not to get mixed up! Lastly, for me, a spare pair of spectacles. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand ward.t@xtra.co.nz Mob +64 210640221 > On 22/11/2017, at 8:17 AM, spcialeffects wrote: > > > I have just finished my build and am thinking about what tools and what spares to carry when I finally do start spreading my wings? There was a thread on here some time ago which I have a print out of and have come across an article in an old flyer magazine but thought Id ask the question myself.............so what do you carry? > > Frank, classic kit #165, G-STUE, 3730 hours > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475432#475432 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:17 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Throttle cables From: "h&jeuropa" We installed solid wire throttle cables during our initial build and they have performed perfectly for over 12 years, 900 hours. We copied Erich Trombleys install. Unfortunately we cant find our original notes or photos. Sorry! We initially tried to replace the stranded core of the supplied cables with piano wire. The piano wire we purchased came tightly rolled about 6 inches in diameter. We were unable to get the wire straight enough to work properly in the sheath. We ultimately purchased Bowden cable from Aircraft Spruce (p/n 05-15500). To connect to the throttle arm in the aircraft, we used small round pulleys, AN111-3 cable bushings and wrapped the wire around them and secured them with clamps, we think similar to cable end fitting (ACS p/n 15-06291 or 05-16100). We used adjusters at the throttle box as well as at the carbs, (Lockwood BR03K). We recall drilling out the ID of the adjusters to accept the diameter of the sheath. Jim & Heather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475438#475438 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:47 PM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tool kit and spares kit Frank, Attached are a couple of checklists I made in 2000 when I got back into ser ious flying. I updated them for the Europa and the new cell phone/iPad tec hnology. I put in my aircraft spares that I carry if I=92m going to Oshkosh or somew here where other pilots are gathering so if someone has a problem, I=92ve g enerally got the tool. On short over night jaunts to take a client home ne arby, I don=92t carry all that stuff (or even flight plan that much). On my cell I keep a complete list of the manuals for the aircraft engine, s ome avionics, wheel parts, and the like. It is all on the cloud now a days . I just like having a file. The files have everything from medication, prep for cross country, maintena nce manual, installation manuals (because I often forget how to set the dar n fuel totalizer), troubleshooting stuff I=92ve done and the like which are specific to my needs and my particular aircraft. They are just .pdf files but in a pinch if you need to know what size seal is leaking on the 914 fu el pressure regulator, you=92ve got it. In the military we had what was known as the In-Flight Guide and as a new L ieutenant that was always going cross country without a hitch, so the boss had me make up a checklist for the students and IPs and it paid off. I gue ss I just never stopped making checklists. Most of my clients are quite ex perienced and dedicated pilots so I just never published them outside the s hop as a serious pilot will plan his flight and fly the plan without incide nt. New pilots or really rusty pilots, may find these checklists handy. It seems if you prepare for your flight and carry spares you never have a p roblem nor need all that prep. Fly Safe, Bud Yerly Sent from Mail for Window s 10 ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of spcialeffects Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 2:17:12 PM Subject: Europa-List: Tool kit and spares kit I have just finished my build and am thinking about what tools and what spa res to carry when I finally do start spreading my wings? There was a thread on here some time ago which I have a print out of and have come across an article in an old flyer magazine but thought I=99d ask the question m yself.............so what do you carry? Frank, classic kit #165, G-STUE, 3730 hours Read this topic online here: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.m atronics.com%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fp%3D475432%23475432&data=02%7C01%7Cbudyerl y%40msn.com%7C21becb630a284387035b08d531154869%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaa aaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636468889831948417&sdata=R%2BlkJk4HUzvNs4zty6Nom27n%2FLE VV1d2HNHeEFtkBDo%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&data=02%7C01%7Cbudyerly%4 0msn.com%7C21becb630a284387035b08d531154869%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaa aaa%7C1%7C0%7C636468889831948417&sdata=BJw0FQ%2BqWoeZvwnRBiaJux9dE0crdFJY fwzUb9VkUxE%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fforums.matronics.com&data=02%7C01%7Cbudyerly%40msn.com%7C21becb630a28 4387035b08d531154869%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636468889 831948417&sdata=yrk%2Bg7wzys7ZRdzq8thNxazXA3YmmaolU6tlM%2BShhfA%3D&reserv ed=0 F%2Fwiki.matronics.com&data=02%7C01%7Cbudyerly%40msn.com%7C21becb630a2843 87035b08d531154869%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63646888983 1948417&sdata=dYQKiFE5P5iON7sfhgemNuvN7F4hizOcW611JUOBG44%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2Fcontribution&data=02%7C01%7Cbudyerly%40msn.com%7C 21becb630a284387035b08d531154869%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0 %7C636468889831948417&sdata=keFdcV7Bs%2BLbe7mXmC1wbYxQckUCFNy5qUHgVTSYowQ %3D&reserved=0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.