---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/22/17: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:04 AM - Re: Tool kit and spares kit (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 2. 02:20 AM - Re: Resins, faring compounds, etc, Need help (Nigel Graham) 3. 08:29 AM - Re: Resins, faring compounds, etc, Need help (Vlodek9) 4. 10:54 AM - Re: Re: Resins, faring compounds, etc, Need help (Fred Klein) 5. 11:04 AM - Re: Tool kit and spares kit (spcialeffects) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:04:14 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tool kit and spares kit Frank, If you are travelling to anywhere remote and it is a mono, then apart from a spare inner tube, you should give some thought as to how you might jack up the plane to get the wheel off. There is an account in the Europa Flyer about a year ago of Tim Houlihan having to abandon his plane on one of the Arran Islands in W Ireland. We rescued him a week or so later having constructed a triangular pad with two prongs which locates on the U/C arm to give a hard horizontal surface that you can put any sort of car jack under. Trikes are no problem - you can simply lift the wing on the puncture side and put any sort of trestle or prop under it to hold it up. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2017-11-21 19:17, spcialeffects wrote: > > I have just finished my build and am thinking about what tools and what spares to carry when I finally do start spreading my wings? There was a thread on here some time ago which I have a print out of and have come across an article in an old flyer magazine but thought IEUR(tm)d ask the question myself.............so what do you carry? > > Frank, classic kit #165, G-STUE, 3730 hours > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475432#475432 [1] > Links: ------ [1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475432#475432 [2] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [3] http://forums.matronics.com [4] http://wiki.matronics.com [5] http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:32 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Resins, faring compounds, etc, Need help From: "Nigel Graham" h&jeuropa wrote: > > .......some people have used West System 407 / 410 products or Poly Fiber Superfil. We have not used either, maybe others can comment. > > Jim & Heather I have used Super-Fil with great success. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/superfil.php?clickkey=8866 It's prohibitively expensive - but it bonds well, blocks down predictably, fairs out seamlessly and is exceptionally light. Pre-warming the application tools (palette knife, straight edge etc.) will ensure that the filler adheres to the substrate and doesn't "curl up" behind. Would recommend. Nigel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475444#475444 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:57 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Resins, faring compounds, etc, Need help From: "Vlodek9" Again, thank you all for the detailed advice on everything. Its good to know that there are other options in regards to the final filer. Please keep the suggestions coming. In the mean time, I'm doing research on Expancel. One thing that I can not find, or missed in the manual is a more detailed decryption to Expancel, a model number it you will. Per this web site: https://expancel.akzonobel.com/lightweight-fillers/expancel-de/ under "lightweight fillers" there are two types of Expancel DE and WE (dry and wet). Under each one of those are even more variations. Example: Expancel DE - 551 DE 40 d42, 461 DE 20 d70, 461 DET 40 d25, etc. Point is, I read the description for both and for the most part understand the difference. However, assuming this company would be willing to sell me some, I'm not confident as to which version (model number) would be best for this application. Any thoughts? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475446#475446 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:33 AM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Resins, faring compounds, etc, Need help I=99ll second Nigel=99s endorsement of Super-Oilandrecommend that use of it be followed w/ Poly Fiber=99s =9CSmooth Prime=9Dalways a good idea to use sequential products from the same manufacturer to ensure compatibilityf. > On Nov 22, 2017, at 2:19 AM, Nigel Graham wrote: > > I have used Super-Fil with great success. > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/superfil.php?clickkey=8866 > > It's prohibitively expensive - but it bonds well, blocks down predictably, fairs out seamlessly and is exceptionally light. > Pre-warming the application tools (palette knife, straight edge etc.) will ensure that the filler adheres to the substrate and doesn't "curl up" behind. > Would recommend. > > Nigel > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:02 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Tool kit and spares kit From: "spcialeffects" Hi David. Yes I have built a mono and yes I have come across the article in the flyer magazine explaining how to construct the simple wooden adapter which I will make in a week or two. 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