---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/23/17: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:31 AM - Looking for ideals on landing lights and placement (AirEupora) 2. 08:52 AM - Re: Looking for ideals on landing lights and placement (AirEupora) 3. 10:06 AM - Re: Tool kit and spares kit (spcialeffects) 4. 10:41 AM - RE : Looking for ideals on landing lights and placement (GTH) 5. 01:41 PM - Mono wheel versus Tri-gear (Hazel Jackson) 6. 02:09 PM - Re: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear (Mike Christine Duane) 7. 02:24 PM - Re: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear (david park) 8. 03:30 PM - Re: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear (James Kelly) 9. 05:39 PM - Re: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear (jonathanmilbank) 10. 07:59 PM - Re: Throttle cables (Erich Trombley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:15 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Looking for ideals on landing lights and placement From: "AirEupora" I had two HD lights in the cowl of my Jabiru powered Europa, but they turned out to be useless. I'd like to hear or see what others have done for a landing light and placement. I recently installed a 40amp alternator and electrical power is no problem now that I got rid of the so called 15 amp Jabiru alternator. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475466#475466 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:58 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Looking for ideals on landing lights and placement From: "AirEupora" Here a picture of the ole landing light. Rick Stockton N120EJ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475468#475468 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/landing_light_crop_938.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:38 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Tool kit and spares kit From: "spcialeffects" Here's what i did in an hour and a half. Essential piece off kit I agree Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475475#475475 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5311_187.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:38 AM PST US Subject: RE : Europa-List: Looking for ideals on landing lights and placement From: GTH CgoKRW52b3nDqSBkZXB1aXMgdW4gbW9iaWxlCgo8ZGl2Pi0tLS0tLS0tIE1lc3NhZ2UgZCdvcmln aW5lIC0tLS0tLS0tPC9kaXY+PGRpdj5EZSA6IEFpckV1cG9yYSA8QWlyRXVwb3JhQHNiY2dsb2Jh bC5uZXQ+IDwvZGl2PjxkaXY+RGF0ZSA6MjMvMTEvMjAxNyAgMTc6MzAgIChHTVQrMDE6MDApIDwv ZGl2PjxkaXY+w4AgOiBldXJvcGEtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tIDwvZGl2PjxkaXY+T2JqZXQg OiBFdXJvcGEtTGlzdDogTG9va2luZyBmb3IgaWRlYWxzIG9uIGxhbmRpbmcgbGlnaHRzIGFuZCBw bGFjZW1lbnQgPC9kaXY+PGRpdj4KPC9kaXY+ICBJJ2QgbGlrZSB0byBoZWFyIG9yIHNlZSB3aGF0 IG90aGVycyBoYXZlIGRvbmUgZm9yIGEgbGFuZGluZyBsaWdodCBhbmQgcGxhY2VtZW50LgpfX19f X19fX19fXwoKSGkgQWxsLApUaGUgYmVzdCBwbGFjZSB3ZSBmb3VuZCBpcyBzb21ld2hlcmUgaW4g dGhlIGxlYWRpbmcgZWRnZSBvZiB0aGUgbGVmdCB3aW5nLCBhYm91dCBtaWR3aW5nLgpUaGUgYmVh bSBpcyBhIGdyZWF0IGFzc2lzdGFuY2UgdG8gdGhlIHBpbG90IGluIHRoZSBmbGFyZSBhdCBkdXNr IG9yIGF0IG5pZ2h0LgpXZSB0b28gZm91bmQgdGhlIGxpZ2h0cyBpbiB0aGUgY293bCB1c2VsZXNz LgpGV0lXCgotLQpCZXN0IHJlZ2FyZHMsCkdpbGxlcyA ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:41:49 PM PST US From: Hazel Jackson Subject: Europa-List: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear Hi Guys - I'm rather hoping that you can help us with this please... My husband and I are looking to hopefully buy a Europa in the not too distant future and we have received a lot of advice from non-Europa owners that we should go for a Tri-gear rather than a Mono wheel. I would very much like to know the pros and cons of both please, and in which circumstances each shines - from real Europa owners! Huge thanks Hazel Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:57 PM PST US From: Mike Christine Duane Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear Both fly just wonderful. It=99s how they handle on the ground that set s them apart. Tricycle gear is very tame while the mono =9Cmust=9D be flown every second on the ground or you can find yourself in trouble. But those are not the only two options. There are quite a few Europa=99 s with conventional gear. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Hazel Jackson wrot e: > > Hi Guys - I'm rather hoping that you can help us with this please... > > My husband and I are looking to hopefully buy a Europa in the not too dist ant future and we have received a lot of advice from non-Europa owners that w e should go for a Tri-gear rather than a Mono wheel. I would very much like t o know the pros and cons of both please, and in which circumstances each shi nes - from real Europa owners! > > Huge thanks > > Hazel > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:24:20 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear From: david park Dave Park Because it looks beautiful. Dave G-LDVO > On 23 Nov 2017, at 21:39, Hazel Jackson wrote: > > Hi Guys - I'm rather hoping that you can help us with this please... > > My husband and I are looking to hopefully buy a Europa in the not too dist ant future and we have received a lot of advice from non-Europa owners that w e should go for a Tri-gear rather than a Mono wheel. I would very much like t o know the pros and cons of both please, and in which circumstances each shi nes - from real Europa owners! > > Huge thanks > > Hazel > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:31 PM PST US From: James Kelly Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear Hello Hazel, The Europa is a fantastic aircraft with a great following. There's also a third undercarriage consideration the conventional taildragger. Best wishes Jim Kelly G-BWEG On 23 Nov 2017 9:44 p.m., "Hazel Jackson" wrote: > Hi Guys - I'm rather hoping that you can help us with this please... > > My husband and I are looking to hopefully buy a Europa in the not too > distant future and we have received a lot of advice from non-Europa owners > that we should go for a Tri-gear rather than a Mono wheel. I would very > much like to know the pros and cons of both please, and in which > circumstances each shines - from real Europa owners! > > Huge thanks > > Hazel > > > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > > <#m_6081554351668498044_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:56 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear From: "jonathanmilbank" Hi Hazel, My Europa was built by me as a mono and first flew 20 years ago, before the tri-gear became an option. About 4 years ago I converted it to the tricycle configuration, after two VERY experienced friends who I allow to share it ground-looped while landing. Both have been instructors and both have adequate tail-dragger experience. I wanted to eliminate the worry about when it might be damaged again, hence the conversion. My own flying experience stretches back over 50 years, including 10 years as a military pilot and thereafter 34 years flying commercially. I have about 650 hours flying the Europa as a mono and 274 hours flying the military North American AT6 (Harvard) WW2 trainer, which is a tail-wheel type. The Europa is more difficult on landing than the AT6, due to the absence of differential brakes to assist in keeping it straight. I have greatly enjoyed flying this superbly designed aircraft in both undercarriage configurations and have no doubt that you'll love it too. Even so, unless you have considerable tail-wheel experience and/or get lots of training before being let loose alone on the Europa mono, I'd be inclined towards acquiring a tri-gear version (with 100+hp to overcome increased rolling resistance on soft surfaces). No doubt there will be disagreement with this statement, but "it isn't if, but when" you'll have a mishap while landing a mono. I was just lucky not to be caught out similarly to my two friends. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475487#475487 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:59:56 PM PST US From: Erich Trombley Subject: Europa-List: Re: Throttle cables Hello, Sorry for the delayed response, however, it seems I haven=99t been receiving the Europa List Digest. Thought I would check the Matronics site and sure enough I missed the last week or so of email traffic. Anyway, as Jim & Heather noted in their post I used a Bowden cable from Aircraft Spruce (p/n 05-15500) and wrapped it around a small round cable bushing, AN111-3, forming a =9C?=9D This way the cable end s up on the centerline on the bushing. I can=99t recall if I Red ux it or soldered the cable to the busing. Has worked without issue for the last 15 years. Also, using a Bowden cable is in my opinion superior to the Rotax cable. With the latter you must rely on the springs to advance the cable as y ou can=99t effectively push a rope. There has been at least one i ncident in which the cable kinked when the throttle was advanced too qui ckly. This can=99t happen with a Bowden cable as it is designed fo r push-pull applications. 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