---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/25/17: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:43 PM - Re: Re: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear (Fred Klein) 2. 12:58 PM - Re: Re: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear (Hazel Jackson) 3. 04:16 PM - Re: Re: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear (Mike Christine Duane) 4. 06:11 PM - Re: Throttle cables (Erich Trombley) 5. 06:29 PM - Re: Re: Throttle cables (Adrian Burridge) 6. 08:30 PM - Re: Re: Throttle cables (Bud Yerly) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:14 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear > On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Bud Yerly wrote: > > I personally like the Rigid SR-Q2 as they are fairly inexpensive, use the high output Cree LEDs and are easy to mount. They don=99t make noise either. Bud, Given the dimensions of the housing, have you ever considered mounting them within the leading edge of the wing along w/ a polycarbonate or plexiglass cover conforming to the shape of the airfoil? F. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:25 PM PST US From: Hazel Jackson Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear Hi Guys I have been completely overwhelmed by the effort you have made to help us with our decision! The information is truly invaluable and it is clear we will be joining a very special group of aviators. A huge thank you on behalf of myself and my husband to you all. Hazel Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On 25 November 2017 at 20:41, Fred Klein wrote: > > > On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Bud Yerly wrote: > > I personally like the Rigid SR-Q2 as they are fairly inexpensive, use the > high output Cree LEDs and are easy to mount. They don=99t make noi se either. > > > Bud, > > Given the dimensions of the housing, have you ever considered mounting > them within the leading edge of the wing along w/ a polycarbonate or > plexiglass cover conforming to the shape of the airfoil? > > F. > > -- Hazel Jackson Motorcycle Racer Magazine 484 Didsbury Road Stockport Cheshire UK SK4 3BS 0161 443 1000 / 07831 577 654 www.motorcycleracer.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:39 PM PST US From: Mike Christine Duane Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Mono wheel versus Tri-gear I may have missed it, but where are you guys located? USA, UK, someplace els e in the world? Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 25, 2017, at 12:56 PM, Hazel Jackson wro te: > > Hi Guys > > I have been completely overwhelmed by the effort you have made to help us w ith our decision! The information is truly invaluable and it is clear we wil l be joining a very special group of aviators. > > A huge thank you on behalf of myself and my husband to you all. > > Hazel > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > >> On 25 November 2017 at 20:41, Fred Klein wrote: >> >> >>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Bud Yerly wrote: >>> >>> I personally like the Rigid SR-Q2 as they are fairly inexpensive, use th e high output Cree LEDs and are easy to mount. They don=99t make nois e either. >> >> Bud, >> >> Given the dimensions of the housing, have you ever considered mounting th em within the leading edge of the wing along w/ a polycarbonate or plexiglas s cover conforming to the shape of the airfoil? >> >> F. >> > > > > -- > Hazel Jackson > Motorcycle Racer Magazine > 484 Didsbury Road Stockport > Cheshire UK SK4 3BS > 0161 443 1000 / 07831 577 654 > www.motorcycleracer.com > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:19 PM PST US From: Erich Trombley Subject: Europa-List: Re: Throttle cables Hi Richard, Attached is a photo of the cable attachment at the carb. As I did not p urchase the Europa firewall forward kit, I made up my own bits. I used bicycle brake parts for the cable sheath cut to length. As the O.D was slightly smaller, I used heat shrink tubing on the end to make up the di fference, and then safety wired it in place. At the throttle box I used a bicycle cable adjuster and just attached it with a nut to the box. Le t me know if you have any other questions. Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ We Say Goodbye To Meryl Streep risingstarnewspaper.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5a1a22473a30e22397255st04duc ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:04 PM PST US From: Adrian Burridge Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Throttle cables Awesome, thanks! On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 6:18 PM Erich Trombley wrote: > Hi Richard, > > Attached is a photo of the cable attachment at the carb. As I did not > purchase the Europa firewall forward kit, I made up my own bits. I used > bicycle brake parts for the cable sheath cut to length. As the O.D was > slightly smaller, I used heat shrink tubing on the end to make up the > difference, and then safety wired it in place. At the throttle box I used a > bicycle cable adjuster and just attached it with a nut to the box. Let me > know if you have any other questions. > > Erich Trombley > N28ET > Classic Mono 914 > ____________________________________________________________ > We Say Goodbye To Meryl Streep > risingstarnewspaper.com > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5a1a22473a30e22397255st04duc ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:55 PM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Throttle cables Guys, I have run the throttle cables for over 10 years without trouble. I don=92 t normally cut them and run them long and loopy to the carbs. This is hard to do in a mono going through the firewall. Much easier in the Trigear as there is more room. Of course there are techniques as Eric said: To shorten a cable you must h ave a working knowledge of how to cap and swag cables, I lead the cable bef ore cutting them and also at the tightening point on the carb throttle leve r if the cable has been damaged by the customer. Find a good bike shop and they can show you how to end cap the cables right . Leading the cable tips is not normally done here in the US but the Germa ns in Spangdahlem showed me how. I have even used 60/40 solder but lead is better in my opinion. Lead penetrates the cable and keeps the strands fro m unravelling. It is not easy to do. Bike shops have 4 and 5 mm swag ends normally, such as the Zimo 50pcs Jagwi re Bike 5mm Brake Cable Housing Ferrule End Caps. The Europa cables are no t quite the same size, so I use a vice to make a press using a tapered punc h to flare or widen the mouth then press in the butt end of numbered drill bits used as a die to open up the 5mm swag ends to properly open up the end cap to slide on the cables. Typically 5.3 to 5.5mm will slip fit nicely o n the 914 TCU cable and throttle cables. For the threaded throttle ends, b uy new ones from Rotax, Green Sky Adventures or Spruce and avoid the rush. These I think are normally 6 mm. I have never scrimped on tools, so I bou ght good crimpers and they don=92t crush the end of the threaded end, or sa fety wire them on works too... Most problems in my experience with customer built throttle boxes is the th rottle box cable sheaths are poorly aligned where they attach to the fiberg lass box. This leads to binding and kinking in the throttle box if the cab le has a slight kink in it. It makes a big difference, even if the angle i s very slightly off or the cable sheaths are too low and if you kinked the cable a bit. Don=92t overly tie the cable ends up with zip ties, it just m akes for a bind many times. The solid cable replacement takes care of that, I just never needed them as I rebuild the throttle and bench check the cables for proper operation bef ore install. The choke cable is another problem for another day. Best Regards, Bud Yerly Sent from Mail for Window s 10 ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Erich Trombley Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 9:08:57 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Throttle cables Hi Richard, Attached is a photo of the cable attachment at the carb. As I did not purc hase the Europa firewall forward kit, I made up my own bits. I used bicycl e brake parts for the cable sheath cut to length. As the O.D was slightly smaller, I used heat shrink tubing on the end to make up the difference, an d then safety wired it in place. At the throttle box I used a bicycle cable adjuster and just attached it with a nut to the box. Let me know if you h ave any other questions. 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