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1. 01:22 AM - Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas (Ivor)
2. 01:57 AM - Re: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
3. 05:01 AM - Re: Calibrating ASI (Bud Yerly)
4. 05:05 AM - Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas (Ivor)
5. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas (ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net)
6. 09:49 AM - Control slop (William Daniell)
7. 10:06 AM - Re: Control slop (ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net)
8. 10:09 AM - Re: Calibrating ASI (Rowland Carson)
9. 10:24 AM - Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas (Ivor)
10. 10:37 AM - Re: Calibrating ASI (ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net)
11. 10:45 AM - Re: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas (ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net)
12. 10:45 AM - Re: Control slop (William Daniell)
13. 11:43 AM - Replacement fuel filler pipe for CLASSIC as per SM 13070 (JohnFrance)
14. 10:29 PM - Outrigger fork (David Watts)
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Subject: | Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas |
A picture of two section of original pipe from my aircraft, looked fine on the
outside but definitely breaking up on the inside,
the amount of rubber actually exposed to the fuel was very small on my installation,
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Subject: | Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas |
Ivor, How old was the pipe? David Joyce, GXSDJ
On 2017-12-14 09:21, Ivor wrote:
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> A picture of two section of original pipe from my aircraft, looked fine on the
outside but definitely breaking up on the inside,
> the amount of rubber actually exposed to the fuel was very small on my installation,
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Subject: | Re: Calibrating ASI |
Mike,
Log on to EAA.org<http://EAA.org> and type in airspeed calibration. A numbe
r of articles. With GPS there is no sense not using it. I've used this fo
r years. No math, simple add and subtract.
I note the winds and temp from natl wx service weather. I fly a box. Into
across downwind and cross.
Best regards,
Bud Yerly,
Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
On Dec 12, 2017 8:32 PM, duanefamly@aol.com wrote:
To those that have already done this, I seem to remember someone having a G
PS measured triangular course that they flew, recorded the reading of their
GPS and panel ASI and came up with a calibration factor. Is there a writte
n procedure that they wish to share?
Also, other than swinging and recording the correction card numbers for the
mag compass, any other calibration procedures that I am forgetting?
Getting closer.
Mike Duane
Europa XS
N377EA
Las Vegas, NV, USA
Sent from Windows Mail
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Subject: | Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas |
Hi David
original pipe with 10 years use, did check it at five years obviously but it seemed
fine at the time,
luckily Frank xuereb down the road from me had some spare original pipe going spare,
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Subject: | Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas |
Ivor,What fuels have you been using predominantly and do you leave the tanks full
(or at least the rubber connector internally submerged) between flights?
Rgds.,Duncan McF.
----Original Message----
From: g-iver@live.co.uk
Subj: Europa-List: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas
Hi David
original pipe with 10 years use, did check it at five years obviously but it seemed
fine at the time,
luckily Frank xuereb down the road from me had some spare original pipe going spare,
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476391#476391
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For the assembled wisdom
I have a minor amount of slop in my controls from the tufnol bearings at
front and back of the cockpit module. I don't notice it in flight but
it's an imperfection and l guess we all know how that feels. This is
derived either from build or some kind of drying out/shrinkage over the
considerable lapse between assembling flying controls and flight.
My thoughts were to drill a hole in the top of the tufnol bearing into
which I could inject grease - maybe damping grease.
Anyone got any other ideas that don't include major surgery?
Will
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Subject: | Re: Control slop |
Will,You don't say whether radial or axial 'slop'.Greasing the dried out bearings
usually causes the Tufnol to expand in a direction perpendicular to the plane
of the fabric, which would remove some axial slop but can cause the bearing
to go tight/sticky.I don't know how you would remove radial slop; grease would
be quickly displaced from the imperfect bearing contact of this item.
Duncan McF
----Original Message----
From: wdaniell.longport@gmail.com
Subj: Europa-List: Control slop
For the assembled wisdom
I have a minor amount of slop in my controls from the tufnol bearings at front
and back of the cockpit module. I don't notice it in flight but it's an imperfection
and l guess we all know how that feels. This is derived either from
build or some kind of drying out/shrinkage over the considerable lapse between
assembling flying controls and flight.
My thoughts were to drill a hole in the top of the tufnol bearing into which I
could inject grease - maybe damping grease.
Anyone got any other ideas that don't include major surgery?
Will
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Subject: | Re: Calibrating ASI |
On 2017-12-13 01:23, duanefamly@aol.com wrote:
> To those that have already done this, I seem to remember someone having a GPS
measured triangular course that they flew, recorded the reading of their GPS
and panel ASI and came up with a calibration factor. Is there a written procedure
that they wish to share?
> Also, other than swinging and recording the correction card numbers for the mag
compass, any other calibration procedures that I am forgetting?
> Getting closer.
>
> Mike Duane
> Europa XS
> N377EA
> Las Vegas, NV, USA
Mike - I didnt receive and cant seem to find your original message (even using
the Matronics search engine) so I am quoting it from another reply.
There was a folder of information about using GPS to determine TAS and compass
errors included on the CD in the Europa Club new-member pack that I used to send
out when I was MemSec. Im not sure if those files had been incorporated at
the time you would have had your pack, in Apr 2000. I am trying to get the files
put up in the calculations section of the new Club website, but have to wait
for someone with the appropriate access to do that.
In the meantime, you could have a look at:
https://www.ntps.edu/information/downloads.html
where several relevant files are available for download under the heading Using
GPS to Determine Pitot-Static Errors.
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas |
Hi Duncan
I have always tried to minimise Avgas use but some times that all you can
get, so Mainly UL91 with some Super unleaded as a last resort,
Yes i do try to leave the fuel tank full but not normally up the cobra,
The amount of Rubber exposed to any fuel is quite small, after the cobra i have
a aluminium pipe so the two pieces you see just connect the pipe to the tank
and cobra,
outside condition of the rubber is good,
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476400#476400
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Subject: | Re: Calibrating ASI |
Rowland,Have you come across a version that allows calibration to the instr
ument (rather than to true airspeed, which then needs fiddling back to see
what the instrument should have been reading relative to true airspeed)?
Duncan McF.
----Original Message----
From: rowlandcarson@gmail.com
Subj: Re: Europa-List: Calibrating ASI
On 2017-12-13 01:23, duanefamly@aol.com wrote:
> To those that have already done this, I seem to remember someone having a
GPS measured triangular course that they flew, recorded the reading of the
ir GPS and panel ASI and came up with a calibration factor. Is there a writ
ten procedure that they wish to share?
> Also, other than swinging and recording the correction card numbers for t
he mag compass, any other calibration procedures that I am forgetting?
> Getting closer.
>
> Mike Duane
> Europa XS
> N377EA
> Las Vegas, NV, USA
Mike - I didn=99t receive and can=99t seem to find your origina
l message (even using the Matronics search engine) so I am quoting it from
another reply.
There was a folder of information about using GPS to determine TAS and comp
ass errors included on the CD in the Europa Club new-member pack that I use
d to send out when I was MemSec. I=99m not sure if those files had be
en incorporated at the time you would have had your pack, in Apr 2000. I am
trying to get the files put up in the =9Ccalculations=9D secti
on of the new Club website, but have to wait for someone with the appropria
te access to do that.
In the meantime, you could have a look at:
https://www.ntps.edu/information/downloads.html
where several relevant files are available for download under the heading
=9CUsing GPS to Determine Pitot-Static Errors=9D.
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas |
Ivor,Will you be replacing with Viton lined stuff? The only affordable Viton (at
that diameter) seems to be fluorosilicone lined silicone hose, which is not
rated for permanent (internal) immersion, but is advertised to be OK for temporary
immersion and full time contact with vapours. Softer too, which may make
getting a gas-tight seal a bit easier.
D.
----Original Message----
From: g-iver@live.co.uk
Subj: Europa-List: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas
Hi Duncan
I have always tried to minimise Avgas use but some times that all you can
get, so Mainly UL91 with some Super unleaded as a last resort,
Yes i do try to leave the fuel tank full but not normally up the cobra,
The amount of Rubber exposed to any fuel is quite small, after the cobra i have
a aluminium pipe so the two pieces you see just connect the pipe to the tank
and cobra,
outside condition of the rubber is good,
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476400#476400
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Subject: | Re: Control slop |
Mmm thanks....
The slop is a little of both...I though about a shim of the same phenolic
material like a large washer split in half but as you say about the grease
option, this would probably work for the axial movement not the radial slop.
Will
On Dec 14, 2017 13:09, "ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net" <
ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net> wrote:
Will,
You don't say whether radial or axial 'slop'.
Greasing the dried out bearings usually causes the Tufnol to expand in a
direction perpendicular to the plane of the fabric, which would remove some
axial slop but can cause the bearing to go tight/sticky.
I don't know how you would remove radial slop; grease would be quickly
displaced from the imperfect bearing contact of this item.
Duncan McF
----Original Message----
From: wdaniell.longport@gmail.com
Subj: Europa-List: Control slop
For the assembled wisdom
I have a minor amount of slop in my controls from the tufnol bearings at
front and back of the cockpit module. I don't notice it in flight but
it's an imperfection and l guess we all know how that feels. This is
derived either from build or some kind of drying out/shrinkage over the
considerable lapse between assembling flying controls and flight.
My thoughts were to drill a hole in the top of the tufnol bearing into
which I could inject grease - maybe damping grease.
Anyone got any other ideas that don't include major surgery?
Will
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Subject: | Replacement fuel filler pipe for CLASSIC as per SM 13070 |
To all Classic owners.
Everything is finally in place to manufacture replacement one piece fuel filler
pipes in aluminium for the classic in accordance with LAA Standard Mod 13070.
Due to the fabrication process requiring a set up charge it will be uneconomical
to make less than 10 parts and a higher volume will help reduce the price. The
parts will be supplied with the excess material needed to form the tube and
will require cutting to length to suit your installation requirements.
To instal the tube you will require two short lengths of hose, 2 jubilee clips,
potential suppliers are given in the mod.
I estimate that the part can be supplied for about 230 GBP plus postage.
Each owner must determine the requirements to install this mod in their aircraft.
If you would like to acquire one of these tubes please PM me with your contact
details and quantity required by the 15 January 2018.
Regards,
John
--------
Europa mono Nr 192
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Hi all,
Has anybody in the UK got a spare outrigger fork or two that I could persuade them
to part with?
Dave Watts
G-BXDY Classic Mono 912S Airmaster 2450 hrs
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