---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/21/17: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:12 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 12/19/17 (Tim Ward) 2. 02:31 AM - Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas (clivesutton) 3. 03:11 AM - Re: Seeking for somebody (tennant) 4. 03:29 AM - Re: "Best" tires for Tri question (Ivor) 5. 05:29 AM - Trig Avionics (stephan cassel) 6. 05:49 AM - Re: Trig Avionics (Pete Lawless) 7. 05:55 AM - Re: Replacement fuel filler pipe for CLASSIC as per SM 13070 (JohnFrance) 8. 06:16 AM - Re: Trig Avionics (Pete) 9. 06:40 AM - Re: Trig Avionics (Peter Jeffers) 10. 07:03 AM - Re: Radio/Intercom issue - wisdom of the group sought..... (rainbow462) 11. 07:08 AM - Bug Eye Canopy anyone? (rainbow462) 12. 07:12 AM - Re: Trig Avionics (clivesutton) 13. 09:56 AM - Re: Bug Eye Canopy anyone? (Fred Klein) 14. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas (Pete Lawless) 15. 01:45 PM - Mod 64B - Hi Top Fuselage (Graeme Hart) 16. 01:50 PM - Re: Bug Eye Canopy anyone? (David Glauser) 17. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: "Best" tires for Tri question (William Daniell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:35 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 12/19/17 From: Tim Ward Hi Roland, Aluminium Pipe is 50.8mm Outer Diameter , wall 1.6 49.2mm Inner Diameter. Will put your name on the list. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand ward.t@xtra.co.nz Mob +64 210640221 > On 21/12/2017, at 7:58 PM, Roland wrote: > > > Hi Tim, > > please put me on the list as well. > > Can you please also tell me, what outside diameter the aluminum pipe has, so that I can order the correct silicone hose to fit the Ends to the filler and fuel tank? Is it also 51 mm? > > Thanks! > > Roland > PH-ZTI > XS TG 914 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476652#476652 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:11 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas From: "clivesutton" pete(at)lawless.info wrote: > Can't seem to find this mod listed in the LAA list of Europa standard mods. > > Hi Pete, as the link, it is a factory MOD that has been in existence since mid-2015. Clive > > > On 19/12/17 11:09, clivesutton wrote: > > > > > > > As you say Bob, lots of activity behind the scenes. > > > > MOD79 may also bring something to the party for some Europa-owners (LAA aware). The black silicone hoses in that MOD kit have a green fluoro fuel-resistant lining. > > > > http://www.europa-aircraft.com/upload/Modification%20Bulletin%20No%2079%20(Issue%2003).pdf > > > > Liking the new look/feel and regular updates of the website btw . . . > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476599#476599 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476656#476656 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:36 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Seeking for somebody From: "tennant" Try . Europa91@gmx.de -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476657#476657 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:18 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: "Best" tires for Tri question From: "Ivor" the reason they wear on the outside is when you set the legs on the build the weight of the aircraft is suspended so no weight on the legs, when the aircraft is fully built with engine/ prop/ paint / fuel it will cause the legs to toe in and create wear on the outside of the tyres, i gave mine an additional bit of toe out, ( just the thickness of a tongue depressor) and my tyres seem to be wearing evenly, Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476658#476658 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:13 AM PST US From: stephan cassel Subject: Europa-List: Trig Avionics Hi Hats of for Trig Avionics. I ordered a TT31 transponder for 7-8 years ago and during the installation I had some issues. Trig staff was very supportive via phone and mail. In order to send ADS-B OUT with Pilot Aware, I had to upgrade the TT31 to latest software version. Again staff at Trig was extremely supportive. Response time close to zero. Upgrade, shipping and handling free charge. I have had my share of none existing, or very poor, support from other BIG avionics companies. I will strongly recommend Trig not only for the outstanding TT31 but also for outstanding support. Merry Christmas Stephan LN-STE Europa Mono ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:53 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trig Avionics From: Pete Lawless Here here! Strong recommendation from me too. Pete G-RMAC Europa #109 Classic On 21/12/17 13:28, stephan cassel wrote: > Hi > > Hats of for Trig Avionics. > > I ordered a TT31 transponder for 7-8 years ago and during the > installation > I had some issues. Trig staff was very supportive via phone and mail. > > In order to send ADS-B OUT with Pilot Aware, I had to upgrade the TT31 > to latest software version. > Again staff at Trig was extremely supportive. Response time close to zero. > Upgrade, shipping and handling free charge. > > I have had my share of none existing, or very poor, support from other > BIG avionics companies. > > I will strongly recommend Trig not only for the outstanding TT31 but > also for outstanding support. > > Merry Christmas > > Stephan > LN-STE Europa Mono ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:41 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Replacement fuel filler pipe for CLASSIC as per SM 13070 From: "JohnFrance" <77alembert@gmail.com> PRICE REDUCTION Due to the number of owners showing interest and assuming they are converted into orders the price has been reduced to 195 GBP plus postage. The reduction of course applies to the those who have already signed up! Regards, John -------- Europa mono Nr 192 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476663#476663 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:40 AM PST US From: Pete Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trig Avionics Agree fully! Their kit is also very durable wrt to vibration, and i get excellent performance from both their radio and xpndr. Cheers and Merry Christmas! Pete a239 > On Dec 21, 2017, at 8:28 AM, stephan cassel wrote: > > Stephan ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:14 AM PST US From: "Peter Jeffers" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trig Avionics I would also like to add my recommendation of Trig products and their service that is second to none. Pete Jeffers -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Lawless Sent: 21 December 2017 13:50 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trig Avionics Here here! Strong recommendation from me too. Pete G-RMAC Europa #109 Classic On 21/12/17 13:28, stephan cassel wrote: > Hi > > Hats of for Trig Avionics. > > I ordered a TT31 transponder for 7-8 years ago and during the > installation I had some issues. Trig staff was very supportive via > phone and mail. > > In order to send ADS-B OUT with Pilot Aware, I had to upgrade the TT31 > to latest software version. > Again staff at Trig was extremely supportive. Response time close to zero. > Upgrade, shipping and handling free charge. > > I have had my share of none existing, or very poor, support from other > BIG avionics companies. > > I will strongly recommend Trig not only for the outstanding TT31 but > also for outstanding support. > > Merry Christmas > > Stephan > LN-STE Europa Mono --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:08 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Radio/Intercom issue - wisdom of the group sought..... From: "rainbow462" thank for the replies. it was indeed the intercom factory default settings and now the offending wire has been cut, it is back to radio and intercom together regards Jeremy Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476666#476666 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:07 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Bug Eye Canopy anyone? From: "rainbow462" Hi I'm just waiting on news from Europa as to prices/availability of the "bug eye" canopy mod as I could really do with a little bit more headroom, to help straighten my back out. So, just wondered if anyone has done this mod, how much extra headroom it actually provides and if there were any disadvantages worthy of note? Many thanks Jeremy Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476667#476667 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:13 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Trig Avionics From: "clivesutton" They get my full endorsement as well - a good old fashioned contact-based customer relationship attitude and sensible approach to warranty. TT21 and TY91 installed 2017 - broadcasting (switchable) ADS-B as fed by iLevil GPS NMEA data at 9600Baud. Clive S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476668#476668 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:56:24 AM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bug Eye Canopy anyone? > On Dec 21, 2017, at 7:07 AM, rainbow462 wrote: > > Hi > > I'm just waiting on news from Europa as to prices/availability of the "bug eye" canopy mod as I could really do with a little bit more headroom, to help straighten my back out. > > So, just wondered if anyone has done this mod, how much extra headroom it actually provides and if there were any disadvantages worthy of note? JeremyI see in the suppliers online catalogue that the domed door windows are still being offered. While these windows give a distinctive look to our birds which some may belittle, installing them would be something I would do if I were rebuildingIve not, however, ever sat in a Europa with them fittednothing is free, of course, but Im unaware of any measured (cruise speed) penalty. Good luck, F. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:14:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas From: Pete Lawless Hi Richard You have a Classic the pictures were for the XS with a side filler. The AD applies to both. I have just inspected mine and whilst the inside looked perfect the fuel tank end was noticeably soft compared to the top section. I intend to replace it with aluminium as per Standard Mod 13070. If you are interested John Archer, who is getting the pipes made, is taking orders now. Regards Pete G-RMAC Classic #109 On 21/12/17 07:11, Richard Lamprey wrote: > > Stupid question, but I will ask anyway... All the examples, photos, LAA report etc point to the side-filler Europa pipe, with 45 degree bend, which was an alternative to the top-of-fuselage original filler. I have the latter, the long pipe coming down through a hole in the rear bulkhead. Was this a different pipe batch? Inspection shows no problem with mine, I fill to the top before every flight, ie right up the pipe, then fly, then leave tank with about 3/4 full ie the pipe is not immersed for long. I fly once a month, Nice constant temps in Kenya 15-28 C for storage, all seems to be OK. > Best > Richard > Classic 5Y-LRY, Kenya > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476654#476654 > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:45:18 PM PST US From: Graeme Hart Subject: Europa-List: Mod 64B - Hi Top Fuselage Hi All I am seeking tips and advice on completing this mod from those who have done it before me. I hope to complete the first step of gluing the in-fill piece to the top of the canopy over the Christmas / New Year break. We are having an unusually warm summer this year so early evening I often have temps of around 22 degrees C in the garage which should be perfect for the gluing I need to do. Daytime temps are getting up to 38 degrees C so I shouldn't have any issues with the glue taking a long time to cure. I have found a few pictures that show the work required around the windscreen and some that show the finished mod from the outside. Can anyone point me to pictures showing the inside and the work required on the in-fill pieces (not the foam but the factory provided glass layups that I need to trim to fit). I'd also appreciate any tips on the best way to build a support so I can tip the fuselage top on its side to work on. Thanks Graeme ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:50:07 PM PST US From: David Glauser Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bug Eye Canopy anyone? I have a bug-eye canopy set, for sale. dg On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Fred Klein wrote: > > > > On Dec 21, 2017, at 7:07 AM, rainbow462 > wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I'm just waiting on news from Europa as to prices/availability of the > "bug eye" canopy mod as I could really do with a little bit more headroom , > to help straighten my back out. > > > > So, just wondered if anyone has done this mod, how much extra headroom > it actually provides and if there were any disadvantages worthy of note? > > JeremyI see in the supplier=99s online catalogue that the =9Cdomed=9D door > windows are still being offered. > > While these windows give a distinctive look to our birds which some may > belittle, installing them would be something I would do if I were > rebuildingI=99ve not, however, ever sat in a Europa with t hem fittednothing > is free, of course, but I=99m unaware of any measured (cruise speed ) penalty. > > Good luck, > > F. > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:08:07 PM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: "Best" tires for Tri question Ivor sadly a little late for that :-) Roland thanks for the tip Will On Dec 21, 2017 06:31, "Ivor" wrote: > > the reason they wear on the outside is when you set the legs on the build > the weight of the aircraft is suspended so no weight on the legs, > when the aircraft is fully built with engine/ prop/ paint / fuel it will > cause the legs to toe in and create wear on the outside of the tyres, > i gave mine an additional bit of toe out, ( just the thickness of a tongue > depressor) and my tyres seem to be wearing evenly, > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476658#476658 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.