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1. 01:24 AM - Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight (Roland)
2. 01:30 AM - Re: Engine Over-cooling (Roland)
3. 04:14 AM - Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight (Kingsley Hurst)
4. 04:39 AM - Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight (William Daniell)
5. 05:16 AM - Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight (Alan Burrill)
6. 05:53 AM - Can anyone send me the dimensiones of the instrument panel module? (William Daniell)
7. 06:06 AM - Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight (Alan Burrill)
8. 07:44 AM - Re: Can anyone send me the dimensiones of the instrument panel module? (Rowland Carson)
9. 07:52 AM - Re: Can anyone send me the dimensiones of the instrument panel module? (William Daniell)
10. 07:55 AM - Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight (John Wigney)
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight |
peterz(at)zutrasoft.com wrote:
> FWIW, I wouldn't fly dynon IFR - lose pitot and you lose attitude too.
>
[/quote]
I don't think so. The Dynon manual says, that AI falls back on a (coupled) GPS
- a Garmin Pilot 3 in my case, should static pitot fail.
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS TG 914
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Over-cooling |
Made two similar flights the day before yesterday in about the same temperatures,
but down low under an overcast (1500-2000ft). Now the CHT was 85C (thermostatic
controlled) and oil 81C.
I didn't expect that and my guess is, that the denser air results in a better cooling.
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS TG 914
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight |
Not rebooting but . . . . .
I fly quite regularly with a friend who has a Dynon in his aircraft. I
marvelled at the capability of the instrument until recently when just
into the second 3.5 hr leg of a trip to fly the Morning Glory in the
Gulf of Carpentaria.
While on climb to 8500 ft, we encountered a very sharp bump whereupon we
observed that the AH was completely inverted. We were in VFR conditions
so it presented no problem. After flying for some time, it happily
remained inverted but was operating quite normally otherwise. It was
only after we turned it off and on again that it decided to amend its
errant ways. We cannot be absolutely sure the bump caused the problem
but it was immediately after the bump that we noticed it.
This incident left a horrible taste in my mouth and I cannot help
wondering what would have happened had we been in I.F. conditions. Even
with two AH=99s, it would be very confusing to have one reading
normally while the other was completely inverted.
Just a hiccup I witnessed first hand.
Kingsley in Oz
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight |
Yes the dynon is amazing....but like all computers suffers from bugs. I
mean if Microsoft with billions of operating systems out there still has
major glitches what can we hope from a small volume company like dynon.
Soooo.....what I think one needs, like bud says, is back ups and back ups
for back ups.
The conclusion I have come to after listening to all is a separate battery
powered flight system (levil I think but could me a mini grt) + a Garmin
GPS with turn coordinator.
A handheld radio with headset adapter.
Round guages for key engine parameters like Rpm map oil temp and maybe fuel
pressure amps/volts.
By the way....is there anyway to increase the range of a
handheld....ground plane or perhaps to plug an airplane antenna into it?
Once again it is always very useful to share. Thanks
Will
On Jan 16, 2018 07:17, "Kingsley Hurst" <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> Not rebooting but . . . . .
>
> I fly quite regularly with a friend who has a Dynon in his aircraft. I
> marvelled at the capability of the instrument until recently when just in
to
> the second 3.5 hr leg of a trip to fly the Morning Glory in the Gulf of
> Carpentaria.
>
> While on climb to 8500 ft, we encountered a very sharp bump whereupon we
> observed that the AH was completely inverted. We were in VFR conditions
so
> it presented no problem. After flying for some time, it happily remained
> inverted but was operating quite normally otherwise. It was only after w
e
> turned it off and on again that it decided to amend its errant ways. We
> cannot be absolutely sure the bump caused the problem but it was
> immediately after the bump that we noticed it.
>
> This incident left a horrible taste in my mouth and I cannot help
> wondering what would have happened had we been in I.F. conditions. Even
> with two AH=99s, it would be very confusing to have one reading nor
mally
> while the other was completely inverted.
>
> Just a hiccup I witnessed first hand.
>
> Kingsley in Oz
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight |
The performance of a handheld will be improved if you use an airframe mounte
d antenna, with suitable ground plane of course, and you=99ll find an i
mprovement over the standard =9Crubber duck=9D antenna you get w
ith most.
Alan
Sent from my iPad
> On 16 Jan 2018, at 12:37, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wr
ote:
>
> Yes the dynon is amazing....but like all computers suffers from bugs. I m
ean if Microsoft with billions of operating systems out there still has maj
or glitches what can we hope from a small volume company like dynon.
>
> Soooo.....what I think one needs, like bud says, is back ups and back ups
for back ups.
>
> The conclusion I have come to after listening to all is a separate battery
powered flight system (levil I think but could me a mini grt) + a Garmin GP
S with turn coordinator.
>
> A handheld radio with headset adapter.
>
> Round guages for key engine parameters like Rpm map oil temp and maybe fue
l pressure amps/volts.
>
> By the way....is there anyway to increase the range of a handheld....grou
nd plane or perhaps to plug an airplane antenna into it?
>
> Once again it is always very useful to share. Thanks
>
> Will
>
>> On Jan 16, 2018 07:17, "Kingsley Hurst" <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> Not rebooting but . . . . .
>>
>> I fly quite regularly with a friend who has a Dynon in his aircraft. I m
arvelled at the capability of the instrument until recently when just into t
he second 3.5 hr leg of a trip to fly the Morning Glory in the Gulf of Carpe
ntaria.
>>
>> While on climb to 8500 ft, we encountered a very sharp bump whereupon we o
bserved that the AH was completely inverted. We were in VFR conditions so i
t presented no problem. After flying for some time, it happily remained inv
erted but was operating quite normally otherwise. It was only after we turn
ed it off and on again that it decided to amend its errant ways. We cannot b
e absolutely sure the bump caused the problem but it was immediately after t
he bump that we noticed it.
>>
>> This incident left a horrible taste in my mouth and I cannot help wonderi
ng what would have happened had we been in I.F. conditions. Even with two A
H=99s, it would be very confusing to have one reading normally while t
he other was completely inverted.
>>
>> Just a hiccup I witnessed first hand.
>>
>> Kingsley in Oz
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Can anyone send me the dimensiones of the instrument panel |
module?
Does anyone have drawings/dimensions of the instrument panel - either the
single sided one or the full width one?
I am going to build a new instrument panel with squarer profile for screens.
thanks
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight |
I have just remove a GRT Horizen, circa 2003-4.
It was showing its age and refused to boot onetime when I left aircraft in s
unshine and console heated up so I suspect it was not happy with too much he
at but never failed in flight.
It also refused to boot one cold damp winters day and was a lot happier afte
r I took it home and left in the central heated house for a few days after w
hich it behaved.
Power wise all the units combined seemed to have a current required of about
5 amps.
Replacing with a Kanadia HORIS and EFIS which overall need about 500ma and a
re lot lighter and don=99t appear to get warm after extensive bench ru
nning.
Alan
Sent from my iPad
> On 16 Jan 2018, at 12:37, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wr
ote:
>
> Yes the dynon is amazing....but like all computers suffers from bugs. I m
ean if Microsoft with billions of operating systems out there still has maj
or glitches what can we hope from a small volume company like dynon.
>
> Soooo.....what I think one needs, like bud says, is back ups and back ups
for back ups.
>
> The conclusion I have come to after listening to all is a separate battery
powered flight system (levil I think but could me a mini grt) + a Garmin GP
S with turn coordinator.
>
> A handheld radio with headset adapter.
>
> Round guages for key engine parameters like Rpm map oil temp and maybe fue
l pressure amps/volts.
>
> By the way....is there anyway to increase the range of a handheld....grou
nd plane or perhaps to plug an airplane antenna into it?
>
> Once again it is always very useful to share. Thanks
>
> Will
>
>> On Jan 16, 2018 07:17, "Kingsley Hurst" <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> Not rebooting but . . . . .
>>
>> I fly quite regularly with a friend who has a Dynon in his aircraft. I m
arvelled at the capability of the instrument until recently when just into t
he second 3.5 hr leg of a trip to fly the Morning Glory in the Gulf of Carpe
ntaria.
>>
>> While on climb to 8500 ft, we encountered a very sharp bump whereupon we o
bserved that the AH was completely inverted. We were in VFR conditions so i
t presented no problem. After flying for some time, it happily remained inv
erted but was operating quite normally otherwise. It was only after we turn
ed it off and on again that it decided to amend its errant ways. We cannot b
e absolutely sure the bump caused the problem but it was immediately after t
he bump that we noticed it.
>>
>> This incident left a horrible taste in my mouth and I cannot help wonderi
ng what would have happened had we been in I.F. conditions. Even with two A
H=99s, it would be very confusing to have one reading normally while t
he other was completely inverted.
>>
>> Just a hiccup I witnessed first hand.
>>
>> Kingsley in Oz
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Can anyone send me the dimensiones of the instrument |
panel module?
On 2018-01-16, at 13:53, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have drawings/dimensions of the instrument panel - either the single
sided one or the full width one?
Will - I can send you a CAD file of the main panel (including the standard factory-supplied
holes). Can you read .DXF files? If not, I can add dimensions and
send it as a PDF.
in friendship
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Can anyone send me the dimensiones of the instrument |
panel module?
Rowland can you send PDF please
thanks
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
>
> On 2018-01-16, at 13:53, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> > Does anyone have drawings/dimensions of the instrument panel - either
> the single sided one or the full width one?
>
>
> Will - I can send you a CAD file of the main panel (including the standard
> factory-supplied holes). Can you read .DXF files? If not, I can add
> dimensions and send it as a PDF.
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight |
To all,
I agree with Pete. I have used a Dynon D10A in my panel since 2003 and I
have found it to be satisfactory after some some significant initial
problems. However, as Pete mentions, Dynon has a strange algorithm to
provide data to the horizon and if there is a problem with the pitot /
static input or if there is an internal leak, the indication will be
incorrect. (Been there done that - it is very strange to be flying
straight and level VFR and the D10A horizon oscillates up and down or
does a slow bank.)
If I was doing the panel again, I would use a Grand Rapids Mini-B,
Mini-X or Mini-AP EFIS.
http://grtavionics.com/home/efis-systems/mini-series-efis/ My experience
is that Grand Rapids makes rock solid equipment.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S, 1,000 hours
/Time: 10:39:32 AM PST US From: Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com> Subject: Re:
Europa-List: Re: Dynon rebooted twice in flight FWIW, I wouldn't fly
dynon IFR - lose pitot and you lose attitude too. Cheers and blue skies,
Pete A239/
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