---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/23/18: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:18 AM - Re: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas (Brian Davies) 2. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas (david park) 3. 10:35 AM - Re: rotax integrated alternator warning light (BobD) 4. 11:24 AM - Re: Re: rotax integrated alternator warning light (david park) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:49 AM PST US From: "Brian Davies" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas Update on the LAA Standard Mod for UK owners to replace the XS filler elbow with an aluminium one. The Mod is now prepared and is awaiting final signature. It will approve the use of Tim's 53 degree elbow and also a 60 degree elbow that is available ex-stock from http://www.autosiliconehoses.com Look under Custom Alloy Hose Pipe Joiner. They cost Uk12 plus postage. Tim's elbow is a better fit in most installations but if you are in a hurry and cannot wait for the next production run you have the option of the 60 degree elbow available now. The Standard Mod requires the use of fuel proof connecting hoses ( Samco Profuel or equivalent) and this is available in short lengths from www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk currently on 22 days back order, currently UK 11.24 plus VAT and postage. That should give you sufficient information to order parts with confidence that the Mod will be available by the time you have the parts. Regards Brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Davies Sent: 29 December 2017 17:33 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas --> Hi Jon, The standard lengths are 76mm so I have ordered two . You need about 30mm overlap on to each joint surface and there are effectively 4 joint surfaces. Regards Brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JonSmith Sent: 29 December 2017 11:48 Subject: Europa-List: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas --> Hi Brian, I am going to order the Profuel joint from Merlin as you described, in anticipation of the standard mod. I bought one of Tims aluminium elbows some years ago but never got around to fitting it and its still in my garage! Sorry for a silly question but do you think I need two of them (one for each end) or will one of them cut into two be sufficient? Cheers! brian.davies44(at)gmail.c wrote: > As I explained in an earlier e-mail, there is no LAA Standard Mod to fit an aluminium elbow on an XS Europa. As nobody has applied for a standard Mod I have agreed with Andy Draper that I will do so. It will be based on Tim Ward's aluminium elbow and will use Samco Profuel joints. These can be purchased from www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk in a short length of 76mm for UK Pounds 11.24 plus VAT and postage. Currently there is a 39 day lead time on this item. Part number PSCH51-BLU > > I will give you a progress report after Christmas. > > Regards > > Brian Davies > > -- -------- G-TERN Classic Mono Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476852#476852 --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:10:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas From: david park Is there any accommodation for owners who have previously had an alloy angle welded up and have been operating safely for years? Regards Dave Park G-LDVO > On 23 Jan 2018, at 14:18, Brian Davies wrote: > > > Update on the LAA Standard Mod for UK owners to replace the XS filler elbow with an aluminium one. The Mod is now prepared and is awaiting final signature. It will approve the use of Tim's 53 degree elbow and also a 60 degree elbow that is available ex-stock from http://www.autosiliconehoses.com Look under Custom Alloy Hose Pipe Joiner. They cost Uk12 plus postage. Tim's elbow is a better fit in most installations but if you are in a hurry and cannot wait for the next production run you have the option of the 60 degree elbow available now. > The Standard Mod requires the use of fuel proof connecting hoses ( Samco Profuel or equivalent) and this is available in short lengths from www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk currently on 22 days back order, currently UK 11.24 plus VAT and postage. > > That should give you sufficient information to order parts with confidence that the Mod will be available by the time you have the parts. > > Regards > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Davies > Sent: 29 December 2017 17:33 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas > > --> > > Hi Jon, > > The standard lengths are 76mm so I have ordered two . You need about 30mm overlap on to each joint surface and there are effectively 4 joint surfaces. > > Regards > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JonSmith > Sent: 29 December 2017 11:48 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas > > --> > > Hi Brian, I am going to order the Profuel joint from Merlin as you described, in anticipation of the standard mod. I bought one of Tims aluminium elbows some years ago but never got around to fitting it and its still in my garage! > Sorry for a silly question but do you think I need two of them (one for each end) or will one of them cut into two be sufficient? > Cheers! > > > brian.davies44(at)gmail.c wrote: >> As I explained in an earlier e-mail, there is no LAA Standard Mod to fit an aluminium elbow on an XS Europa. As nobody has applied for a standard Mod I have agreed with Andy Draper that I will do so. It will be based on Tim Ward's aluminium elbow and will use Samco Profuel joints. These can be purchased from www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk in a short length of 76mm for UK Pounds 11.24 plus VAT and postage. Currently there is a 39 day lead time on this item. Part number PSCH51-BLU >> >> I will give you a progress report after Christmas. >> >> Regards >> >> Brian Davies >> >> -- > > > -------- > G-TERN > Classic Mono > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476852#476852 > > > > > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:30 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: rotax integrated alternator warning light From: "BobD" Roland, did you ever get an answer to this question ? I have the standard Alternator Fail lamp wired in as shown in the manual. I have yet to see it lit. Should it perform in the same way as on a car, i.e. should it light when the master switch is turned on, then extinguish once the engine is running, and the Alternator producing power ? If not, how can I test it is working ? -------- Bob Dawson XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477512#477512 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:02 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: rotax integrated alternator warning light From: david park Yes with engine running and alternator switched on? Dave Park > On 23 Jan 2018, at 18:35, BobD wrote: > > > Roland, did you ever get an answer to this question ? > > I have the standard Alternator Fail lamp wired in as shown in the manual. I have yet to see it lit. Should it perform in the same way as on a car, i.e. should it light when the master switch is turned on, then extinguish once the engine is running, and the Alternator producing power ? > If not, how can I test it is working ? > > -------- > Bob Dawson > XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477512#477512 > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.