---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/04/18: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:25 AM - Re: Re: Aluminium Elbow (Brian Davies) 2. 07:25 AM - Mojave Experimental Fly-In Mojove, CA KMHV (AirEupora) 3. 07:34 AM - Re: Mojave Experimental Fly-In Mojove, CA KMHV (AirEupora) 4. 03:02 PM - Re: Europa Cabin heater. (Europa48) 5. 03:58 PM - Re: Re: Aluminium Elbow (Jon Smith) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:19 AM PST US From: "Brian Davies" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Aluminium Elbow The LAA have issued LAA Standard Mod 14809 to permit the use of an aluminium elbow with a bend angle of between 45 degrees and 60 degrees to suit individual aircraft as there is build variation that can affect this angle. As Profuel fuel proof hose is not immediately available the mod also permits the continued use of lengths of the original factory supplied hose, subject to an annual inspection. This mod should permit the return to service of any Europa with a failed original rubber hose and also enable those of us that have had aluminium elbows fitted for a number of years to record the standard mod in their inspection logs. If you want to fit a Profuel silicone elbow when they become available you will have to apply for an individual mod for your aircraft. Probably the quickest way to do this would be for one person to apply for a prototype mod and then others can use the Repeat Mod system. This works when you are prepared to install an identical mod. I am sorry it was not possible to include this option in the standard mod as we don=99t have an LAA aircraft with one fitted to form the basis of the standard mod. I have attached a copy of the Standard Mod to save searching the LAA website. Regards Brian From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Sent: 01 February 2018 22:30 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Aluminium Elbow Roland, That sounds to me to be the way to go if the silicone proves to be truly fuel proof and non porous, but it will of course take a long while to get that approved by LAA as an alternative mod. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2018-02-01 20:35, Roland wrote: Hello, FWIW I ordered the 60=C3=82=C2=B0 Samco Profuel Silicone hose https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/samco-profuel-60-degree-silicone-hos e-elbow-pe60 Normally the legs from the bend measure 102 mm, but I got them to manufacture one with 152 mm legs for 67,96 GBP + VAT for me. This way I'd only have two connections rather than four. However I understand, that the LAA only approves the Mod with the aluminium pipe. Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477751#477751 ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ics.com .com .matronics.com/contribution Image removed by sender. Virus-free. www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:56 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Mojave Experimental Fly-In Mojove, CA KMHV From: "AirEupora" On April 21, Plane Crazy Saturday, Mojave Experimental Fly-In http://mojavemuseum.org/events/ The museum has a dinner that evening with guest speaker Bill Norton, not sure if this is the son of the creator of the flying wing, but will find out. If you want to stay overnight I can find out about hotel rooms near the airport. Myself and Todd Johnson will be renting a car or van to go to Red Rock Canyon Park in the morning. If you have ever watch a "B" western movie with beautiful rock formations in the back ground this is the place where it was filmed. If you are interested let me know. Staying for dinner RSVP 661-824-2481 "Donation requested for talk." For a Room E-mail me. I'll make some arrangement with a hotel. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477809#477809 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:18 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mojave Experimental Fly-In Mojove, CA KMHV From: "AirEupora" Bill Norton is an Instructor at the National Test Pilot School . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477810#477810 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:02:16 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa Cabin heater. From: "Europa48" That doesn't look very simple. Anyone use an exhaust muff and ducting? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477829#477829 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:58:02 PM PST US From: Jon Smith Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Aluminium Elbow Hi Brian, many thanks for your time and effort on our behalf. Time to get the toolbox out! Cheers, Jon > On 4 Feb 2018, at 09:24, Brian Davies wrote: > > The LAA have issued LAA Standard Mod 14809 to permit the use of an alumini um elbow with a bend angle of between 45 degrees and 60 degrees to suit indi vidual aircraft as there is build variation that can affect this angle. As P rofuel fuel proof hose is not immediately available the mod also permits the continued use of lengths of the original factory supplied hose, subject to a n annual inspection. This mod should permit the return to service of any Eu ropa with a failed original rubber hose and also enable those of us that hav e had aluminium elbows fitted for a number of years to record the standard m od in their inspection logs. > > If you want to fit a Profuel silicone elbow when they become available you will have to apply for an individual mod for your aircraft. Probably the q uickest way to do this would be for one person to apply for a prototype mod a nd then others can use the Repeat Mod system. This works when you are prepa red to install an identical mod. I am sorry it was not possible to include t his option in the standard mod as we don=99t have an LAA aircraft with one fitted to form the basis of the standard mod. > > I have attached a copy of the Standard Mod to save searching the LAA websi te. > > Regards > > > Brian > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-ser ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk > Sent: 01 February 2018 22:30 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Aluminium Elbow > > > > Roland, That sounds to me to be the way to go if the silicone proves to be truly fuel proof and non porous, but it will of course take a long while to get that approved by LAA as an alternative mod. > > Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > > On 2018-02-01 20:35, Roland wrote: > > > Hello, > > FWIW I ordered the 60=C3=82=C2=B0 Samco Profuel Silicone hose https://www. merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/samco-profuel-60-degree-silicone-hose-elbow-pe60 > > Normally the legs from the bend measure 102 mm, but I got them to manufact ure one with 152 mm legs for 67,96 GBP + VAT for me. > > This way I'd only have two connections rather than four. However I underst and, that the LAA only approves the Mod with the aluminium pipe. > > Regards > Roland > PH-ZTI > XS TG 914 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477751#477751 > > > > > > > ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > ics.com > .com > .matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > <247_Europa SM14809 XS fuel filler.pdf> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.