---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/03/18: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:05 AM - Re: Garmin =?UTF-8?Q?GMU=31=31=3F? (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 2. 01:12 AM - Re: Garmin GMU11? (=?utf-8?Q?Gert_Dalgaard_S=C3=B8rensen?=) 3. 01:40 AM - Re: Garmin =?UTF-8?Q?GMU=31=31=3F? (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 4. 01:56 AM - Re: Garmin GMU11? (=?utf-8?Q?Gert_Dalgaard_S=C3=B8rensen?=) 5. 07:11 AM - Re: Re: Alternate static port & Switch (ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net) 6. 10:03 AM - Europa25Gap International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June (Remi Guerner) 7. 12:30 PM - Re: Europa25Gap International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June (Remi Guerner) 8. 12:51 PM - Re: Europa25Gap International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June (Richard Scanlan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:31 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Garmin =?UTF-8?Q?GMU=31=31=3F? Gert, I have installed a GMU 22 with my G5 system at top of fuselage behind the D panel. I previously had a Blue Mountain magnetometer (looking like the GMU11) at bottom of fuselage a foot back from D panel. Both seem to work/have worked OK., and the G5 system appears to be very critical of its inputs. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2018-03-03 06:37, Gert Dalgaard Srensen wrote: > > Hi > > Anyone who have been experimenting with Garmins GMU11 unit? > I plan to instal it in the fuselage - Garmin recommend that installation is done in the wing. > Hmmm ... ?? > > Regards > Gert > > OY-GDS, Mono, 914, Woodcomp 3000 Links: ------ [1] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [2] http://forums.matronics.com [3] http://wiki.matronics.com [4] http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:51 AM PST US From: =?utf-8?Q?Gert_Dalgaard_S=C3=B8rensen?= Subject: Re: Europa-List: Garmin GMU11? Thanks=99 David - at the top behind the =9CD=9D is exactly the position that I consider. What do you mean when you write =9C - and the G5 system appears to be very critical of its inputs=9D Regards Gert > Den 3. mar. 2018 kl. 10.04 skrev davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk: > > Gert, I have installed a GMU 22 with my G5 system at top of fuselage behind the D panel. I previously had a Blue Mountain magnetometer (looking like the GMU11) at bottom of fuselage a foot back from D panel. Both seem to work/have worked OK., and the G5 system appears to be very critical of its inputs. > > Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > > > On 2018-03-03 06:37, Gert Dalgaard S=C3=B8rensen wrote: > =?utf-8?Q?Gert_Dalgaard_S=C3=B8rensen?= > >> >> Hi >> >> Anyone who have been experimenting with Garmins GMU11 unit? >> I plan to instal it in the fuselage - Garmin recommend that installation is done in the wing. >> Hmmm ... ?? >> >> Regards >> Gert >> >> OY-GDS, Mono, 914, Woodcomp 3000 >> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> ics.com >> .com >> .matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:40:59 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Garmin =?UTF-8?Q?GMU=31=31=3F? Gert, I mean that it seems to have a self testing system. It seems to analyse the inputs from each of the attached units and puts up messages if it is not happy. It also does its own independent calibration of the magnetometer. I have always had to have someone outside the plane lining it up on different headings with a specially accurate compass to calibrate the plane's compass or magnetometer, but the G5/ GMU calibration just requires you to go to a compass square, then point the plane roughly north. Then the G5 takes over, telling you turn slowly right; hold it there; turn slowly right; hold it there and so on whilst you go slowly through 360 degrees. Then it says All done. That is probably not quite the same as saying that it can determine the magnetic cleanliness of your positioning of the magnetometer but it certainly seems to be critical of the nature of its inputs. Regards, David On 2018-03-03 09:12, Gert Dalgaard Srensen wrote: > Thanks' David - at the top behind the "D" is exactly the position that I consider. > What do you mean when you write " - and the G5 system appears to be very critical of its inputs" > Regards > Gert > > Den 3. mar. 2018 kl. 10.04 skrev davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk: > > Gert, I have installed a GMU 22 with my G5 system at top of fuselage behind the D panel. I previously had a Blue Mountain magnetometer (looking like the GMU11) at bottom of fuselage a foot back from D panel. Both seem to work/have worked OK., and the G5 system appears to be very critical of its inputs. > > Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > On 2018-03-03 06:37, Gert Dalgaard Srensen wrote: > > > Hi > > Anyone who have been experimenting with Garmins GMU11 unit? > I plan to instal it in the fuselage - Garmin recommend that installation is done in the wing. > Hmmm ... ?? > > Regards > Gert > > OY-GDS, Mono, 914, Woodcomp 3000 > ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [1] > ics.com [2] > .com > .matronics.com/contribution [3] Links: ------ [1] ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [2] http://ics.com [3] http://matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:56:06 AM PST US From: =?utf-8?Q?Gert_Dalgaard_S=C3=B8rensen?= Subject: Re: Europa-List: Garmin GMU11? Tank you very much for info. Regards Gert > Den 3. mar. 2018 kl. 10.40 skrev davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk: > > > Gert, I mean that it seems to have a self testing system. It seems to analyse the inputs from each of the attached units and puts up messages if it is not happy. It also does its own independent calibration of the magnetometer. I have always had to have someone outside the plane lining it up on different headings with a specially accurate compass to calibrate the plane's compass or magnetometer, but the G5/ GMU calibration just requires you to go to a compass square, then point the plane roughly north. Then the G5 takes over, telling you turn slowly right; hold it there; turn slowly right; hold it there and so on whilst you go slowly through 360 degrees. Then it says All done. That is probably not quite the same as saying that it can determine the magnetic cleanliness of your positioning of the magnetometer but it certainly seems to be critical of the nature of its inputs. > > Regards, David > > > On 2018-03-03 09:12, Gert Dalgaard S=C3=B8rensen wrote: > >> Thanks' David - at the top behind the "D" is exactly the position that I consider. >> What do you mean when you write " - and the G5 system appears to be very critical of its inputs" >> Regards >> Gert >> >> >> >>> Den 3. mar. 2018 kl. 10.04 skrev davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk : >>> >>> Gert, I have installed a GMU 22 with my G5 system at top of fuselage behind the D panel. I previously had a Blue Mountain magnetometer (looking like the GMU11) at bottom of fuselage a foot back from D panel. Both seem to work/have worked OK., and the G5 system appears to be very critical of its inputs. >>> >>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2018-03-03 06:37, Gert Dalgaard S=C3=B8rensen wrote: >>> =?utf-8?Q?Gert_Dalgaard_S=C3=B8rensen?= > >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Anyone who have been experimenting with Garmins GMU11 unit? >>> I plan to instal it in the fuselage - Garmin recommend that installation is done in the wing. >>> Hmmm ... ?? >>> >>> Regards >>> Gert >>> >>> OY-GDS, Mono, 914, Woodcomp 3000 >>> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >>> ics.com >>> .com >>> .matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:57 AM PST US From: "ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Alternate static port & Switch I could hardly tell any difference with cockpit static, although there was a couple of knots difference seen instantly as the cabin ventilators were plugged.However, if the rear of a door becomes unlatched (or I guess some other similar major fuselage leak), the pressure instruments become highly variable, misleading and unusable. For that reason alone I reinstated the wing mounted static. Duncan McF. ----Original Message---- From: dg.watts@talktalk.net Subj: Re: Europa-List: Re: Alternate static port & Switch In the early days I fitted a switched static line with the alternate being behind the panel and I found the readings to be substantially different to the standard static port and I eventually removed it all. Unfortunately, being 20 odd years ago it is to long ago for me to remember exactly what the differences were in actual numbers. Dave Watts G-BXDY Classic Mono 2,463 hrs after 20.3 years and still loving it. > On 2 Mar 2018, at 12:19 pm, carlp101 wrote: > > > Being an aircraft that does not have the ability to be configured with a pressurised cockpit, I've often wondered why people route static ports to the outside world instead of just leaving the static port unconnected behind the panel? I discussed this recently with the LAA and they didn't see and issue with leaving them unconnected in non-pressurised aircraft. > > Thoughts? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478348#478348 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:58 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Europa25Gap International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June From: "Remi Guerner" Hello all, The Europa25Gap Fly-In is organized with the contribution of AAVD -one of the local Aero-Clubs- and The Europa Club to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the Europa kitplane. That is in a little bit more than three months from now. Please note the dates on your diary. The Fly-In is open to Europa owners and builders but anyone interested in the type will be welcome, even if he flies another type. Attached is the proposed program and the registration form to be filled and sent back to me. We all know that weather or other reasons can force you to change your plans, so filling the registration form should not be considered as a firm commitment to come, but that hugely helps the organization. So if your are planning to come, please send your registration form now. The hotels are very busy in summer so early booking is recommended. More information (arrival procedures, parking, etc....) will be provided later on. For those who do not know the Gap-Tallard airfield, you can view it in real time here: http://www.alpes-envol.fr/pages/webcam/webcam-aerodrome-tallard.html Also have a look at the presentation video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ZkW70fey4&feature=youtu.be I hope to see you there in June. Rmi Guerner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478365#478365 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/registration_form_184.doc http://forums.matronics.com//files/europa25gap_program_670.pdf ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:30:57 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa25Gap International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June From: "Remi Guerner" I should have mentioned that hotel Le Cap should be the preferred choice for two reasons: it is located right on the airfield and the dinner on Saturday evening is at the hotel's restaurant. Le Mas d'Estello is to be considered as a back-up. Remi Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478366#478366 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:55 PM PST US From: Richard Scanlan Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa25Gap International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June Hi Remi, You can count me in, not so far from Portugal! Will fill in the form ASAP. Can we camp on the airfield? Richard Sent from my iPad > On 3 Mar 2018, at 18:03, Remi Guerner wrote: > > > Hello all, > The Europa25Gap Fly-In is organized with the contribution of AAVD -one of the local Aero-Clubs- and The Europa Club to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the Europa kitplane. That is in a little bit more than three months > from now. Please note the dates on your diary. > The Fly-In is open to Europa owners and builders but anyone interested in the type will be welcome, even if he flies another type. > Attached is the proposed program and the registration form to be filled and sent back to me. > We all know that weather or other reasons can force you to change your plans, so filling the registration form should not be considered as a firm commitment to come, but that hugely helps the organization. So if your are planning to come, please send your registration form now. The hotels are very busy in summer so early booking is recommended. > More information (arrival procedures, parking, etc....) will be provided later on. > For those who do not know the Gap-Tallard airfield, you can view it in real time here: http://www.alpes-envol.fr/pages/webcam/webcam-aerodrome-tallard.html > Also have a look at the presentation video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ZkW70fey4&feature=youtu.be > I hope to see you there in June. > Rmi Guerner > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478365#478365 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/registration_form_184.doc > http://forums.matronics.com//files/europa25gap_program_670.pdf > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.