---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/05/18: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:34 AM - Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018 (Remi Guerner) 2. 02:05 AM - 12mm fuel hoses at the elecrical fuel pumps Rotax 914? (Roland) 3. 02:29 AM - Corrosion on the engine/nose gear mounting frame (Roland) 4. 07:57 AM - TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? (graeme bird) 5. 08:02 AM - Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA =?UTF-8?Q?hoops=3F? (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 6. 08:29 AM - Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? (David Watts) 7. 11:54 AM - Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? (Hitchflight) 8. 12:48 PM - Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? (graeme bird) 9. 12:58 PM - Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? (Hitchflight) 10. 01:39 PM - Re: Corrosion in the engine/nose gear mounting frame (Ivor) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:10 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018 From: "Remi Guerner" Hi Pete, You will be on your own for breakfast. I suggest you have it at your hotel. Remi Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478386#478386 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:25 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: 12mm fuel hoses at the elecrical fuel pumps Rotax 914? From: "Roland" Hello friends, my Europa is currently in the workshop of a friend to get new fuel hoses. My friend owns a Rotax 912 powered Monowheel, thus is not familiar with the 914 fuel system. While removing the hoses he discovered one piece of 12mm braided hose close to the fuel pumps (see attached picture). In the 914 installation manual on the Europa website I can identify a reducer HFRP 8-12 before the pumps. So my question is, whether this 12mm pieces just connect the 8mm hoses before the fuel pumps via the reducer to a 12mm inlet in the fuel pumps? Its the first time work is conducted on my fuel system sice Ive bought my Europa second hand. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478388#478388 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/benzinleitung_12_mm_949.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:29:33 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Corrosion on the engine/nose gear mounting frame From: "Roland" Another question, that popped up during the thorough inspection in the workshop: My friend found corrosion on the inner sides of the steel tubes of the engine/nose wheel mounting frame of my Europa XS, finished in the year 2001. Its not yet clear how much corrosion there actually is, but anyway I want to address this problem as early as possible. Im thinking about flooding the frame with ACF50 if accessible. My Europa was based in Perranporth close to the coast, which although always hangered - may have contributed to a higher amount of corrosion. Has anyone had corrosion in the frame tubes as well and what did you do to protect the inner sides against corrosion? I guess changing the whole frame is a hell of a job which Id very much like to avoid. Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478389#478389 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:57:51 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? From: "graeme bird" Hi after seeing it mentioned again in the UK LAA mag intro and there being an updated process for MOGAS E5 approval I have started to go through the check list; Flying from a strip I had been running on mogas since day one with no signs of any issues. Has anyone sent in the checklist yet? Any issues? -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, SmartA3 325 hours & 6 years on the Mono, 930 total g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478392#478392 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:09 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA =?UTF-8?Q?hoops=3F? Graeme, Yes a year or two back. It was not an issue. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2018-03-05 15:57, graeme bird wrote: > > Hi after seeing it mentioned again in the UK LAA mag intro and there being an updated process for MOGAS E5 approval I have started to go through the check list; > Flying from a strip I had been running on mogas since day one with no signs of any issues. > Has anyone sent in the checklist yet? Any issues? > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, SmartA3 > 325 hours & 6 years on the Mono, 930 total > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478392#478392 [1] > Links: ------ [1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478392#478392 [2] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [3] http://forums.matronics.com [4] http://wiki.matronics.com [5] http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:44 AM PST US From: "David Watts" Subject: RE: Europa-List: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? Graeme, Yes I also did it a couple of years ago on 3 separate aircraft and it was no issue. In fact we only had to get an inspector to sign the paperwork off and then attach the paperwork to the logbooks. There was no requirement to contact the LAA. Dave Watts G-BXDY Classic Mono -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of graeme bird Sent: 05 March 2018 15:57 Subject: Europa-List: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? Hi after seeing it mentioned again in the UK LAA mag intro and there being an updated process for MOGAS E5 approval I have started to go through the check list; Flying from a strip I had been running on mogas since day one with no signs of any issues. Has anyone sent in the checklist yet? Any issues? -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, SmartA3 325 hours & 6 years on the Mono, 930 total g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478392#478392 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:54:31 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? From: "Hitchflight" Hi Graeme Straightforward process. Retain inspection sheet. Get book signed by inspector. I would add Im very anal on this subject. Have you got an ethanol tester? I did tests in my local area with a wide range of results. Always test yourself. In the UK there is no legal requirement to show the % of ethanol in the fuel. Im fortunate that my nearest place is E0. And I routinely reprove it. For technically fuel station can change the configuration. My prefered station isnt Esso. But Esso comments are useful. Esso The majority of unleaded 95 Octane petrol sold in the UK contains up to five percent ethanol as required under the Governments Renewable Transport Fuels Obligation (RTFO). 97: There is currently no requirement for renewable fuel (such as ethanol) to be present in super unleaded (97 grade petrol). Esso super unleaded petrol (Synergy Supreme+ Unleaded 97) is ethanol free (except in Devon, Cornwall, the Teesside area and Scotland). We would therefore advise anyone who has concerns about the presence of ethanol in petrol to use Synergy Supreme+ providing they do not fill up in Devon or Cornwall, the Teesside area or Scotland. My local place sells E0. Long may it continue! E0 has less propensity for vapour lock and less likely to attract acetobacter interest. Regards Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478399#478399 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:46 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? From: "graeme bird" what kind of ethanol tester do you use, sounds a good idea. I do use the esso supreme -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, SmartA3 325 hours & 6 years on the Mono, 930 total g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478400#478400 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:41 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? From: "Hitchflight" I use a Briggs & Stratton gasohol tester. Sadly not stocked by any of the big people in the UK. But you will find them for sale at good quality Lawn Mower Repair places. They last forever and cost between 1 and 2. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478401#478401 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/e595c2f5_ffa9_4065_a3d4_b8506b12d9c2_571.jpeg http://forums.matronics.com//files/7e484f3a_461d_4528_bcf5_d59a7b58d4b1_122.jpeg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:39:21 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Corrosion in the engine/nose gear mounting frame From: "Ivor" Hi Roland have you had the frame reinforcement mod done? http://www.europa-aircraft.com/pdfs/modifications/Mod%2072.pdf I used fire intumescent paste in the lower tubes to stop flame or smoke being feed into the cockpit, the 8mm to 12mm reducer for the 914 Fuel pumps are normal, i would change them from the plastic ones you have to Brass or aluminium as the plastic ones get brittle and crack, dont forget to remove the small inlet fuel filter just inside the inlet side of the pump to clean it, its quite fragile so be careful, ivor Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478402#478402 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.