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Tue 03/06/18


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 01:40 AM - Re: Corrosion in the engine/nose gear mounting frame (Roland)
     2. 02:52 AM - Europa flight hours about to no longer count on EASA PPL? (Roland)
     3. 03:11 AM - Re: Europa flight hours about to no longer count on EASA PPL? (houlihan tim)
     4. 03:34 AM - Re: Europa flight hours about to no longer count on EASA PPL? (Roland)
     5. 06:47 AM - ethanol (Danny)
     6. 07:06 AM - Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? (graeme bird)
     7. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? (David Watts)
     8. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? (Brian Davies)
     9. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? (Tim Ward)
    10. 10:27 AM - Re: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? (Tim Ward)
    11. 12:49 PM - Nev's Engine Mount (Roger Sheridan)
    12. 12:58 PM - Re: Corrosion in the engine/nose gear mounting frame (Ivor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:40:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Corrosion in the engine/nose gear mounting frame
    From: "Roland" <schmidtroland@web.de>
    Good morning Ivor, thank you for your reply, we'll do the work with due diligence, as you suggested. Out of interest - where did you buy the Brass or Aluminium reducers? The MOD on the engine mounting frame is carried out, since my Europa was on the G-Register until 2011, so subject to the LAA maintenance scheme. Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478413#478413


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    Time: 02:52:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Europa flight hours about to no longer count on EASA PPL?
    From: "Roland" <schmidtroland@web.de>
    Dear Europa community, on another forum I came across this problem dawning on the EASA-horizon: https://www.euroga.org/forums/student-pilots/5243-uk-caa-allows-ab-initio-training-on-annex-2-and-easa-bans-it-april-2018-and-annex-2-hours-to-no-longer-count-towards-easa-licenses-merged?page=6 As it looks currently, this may hugely affect tnose (including myself) who fly exclusively with Annex 2 aircraft on an EASA license. If it comes through, we were forced to rent an EASA-aircraft at least for the 12 hours required for the license renewal. Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478415#478415


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    Time: 03:11:27 AM PST US
    From: houlihan tim <houlihan@blueyonder.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Europa flight hours about to no longer count on EASA
    PPL? Hi Roland The UK CAA have said this will not happen, three countries have put forward objections and the general view is that certainly France would not be happy with this. read this comment about it https://www.flyer.co.uk/flight-hours-annex-ii-aircraft-count-easa-ppl/ regards Tim H > > On 06 March 2018 at 10:51 Roland <schmidtroland@web.de> wrote: > > > Dear Europa community, > > on another forum I came across this problem dawning on the EASA-horizon: > > https://www.euroga.org/forums/student-pilots/5243-uk-caa-allows-ab-initio-training-on-annex-2-and-easa-bans-it-april-2018-and-annex-2-hours-to-no-longer-count-towards-easa-licenses-merged?page=6 > > As it looks currently, this may hugely affect tnose (including myself) who fly exclusively with Annex 2 aircraft on an EASA license. > > If it comes through, we were forced to rent an EASA-aircraft at least for the 12 hours required for the license renewal. > > Regards > Roland > PH-ZTI > XS TG 914 > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478415#478415 > >


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    Time: 03:34:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Europa flight hours about to no longer count on EASA
    PPL?
    From: "Roland" <schmidtroland@web.de>
    Hi Tim, thank you. However - and this is an information from 3rd march on a german forum: EASA NPA 2014/28 / FCL.035(a) (2): When flight time is completed during flights operated in the same class or type of aircraft falling under points (a), (b), (c) or (d) of Annex II to Regulation (EC) No 216/2008, it shall be given full credit for the purpose of issue, revalidation or renewal of a licence, rating or certificate. French DGAC stated: France supports the proposed draft for crediting hours performed on Annex II aircraft. Nevertheless in the same time France considers that the recognition shall be extended to allow the conduct of all skill tests (for the purpose of issuance/renewal of a Part FCL licence, rating, certificate), proficiency checks (for the purpose of revalidation of a Part FCL licence, rating, certificate) and assessment of competences (for the purpose of issuance/renewal/revalidation of Part FCL instructor/examiner certificates) on Annex II aircraft ((a), (b), (c) and (d)) as long as the aircraft used is correctly fitted for performing all relevant exercises during the practical examination as required by Part FCL. It is not logical to credit Annex II hours in full for the purpose of the issuance of Part FCL licence, rating, and certificate and in the same time not authorizing the conduct of the practical exam on such Annex II aircraft. To support this comment it should be noted for example that Appendix 4 B) (1) states that for a CPL(A) skill test : The aeroplane used for the skill test shall meet the requirements for training aeroplanes, [...]. Therefore as long as the Annex II aircraft is meeting the requirements for training it is possible to use it for the skill test. EASA Comment Response Document (CRD): Not accepted When the content of Annex II to the Basic Regulation was developed, Member States specifically wanted to exclude the aircraft referred to therein from the scope of the Regulation and its implementing rules. When proposing to accept hours flown on some Annex II aircraft, EASA considered that also hours flown on third-country registered aircraft would be credited for revalidation. Accepting the use of AnnexII aircraft to obtain qualifications with skill tests or assessments of competence and perform proficiency checks on Annex II aircraft would render the whole Annex II feckless. The intention was never to undermine Annex II but to provide General Aviation with the possibility to continue to use aircraft they were using for years already with the clear aim that at a certain moment only equipment that was certified in accordance with the Basic Regulation would be used for training, testing and checking. Let's see what happens. Anyway it's very amazing, that the EASA GA task force itsef dislcaimed this with the words "We do not know where this is coming from. We will publish an answer. Flyers will publish something to clarify." by the beginning of last week, obviously not knowing, what is going on in the legal department of EASA. Regards Roland Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478417#478417


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    Time: 06:47:35 AM PST US
    From: Danny <danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk>
    Subject: ethanol
    Hi All, A few years ago I bought a Ethanol testing kit. It consisted of a couple of small bottles and what looked like blue coloured cotton buds. I'm now down to my last couple of testing sticks, does any one know where I can get some more. I have tried all the usual aviation sites, but with no luck. I have looked through my old invoices but can't find them. Maybe the don't produce them any more :-( . Cheers Danny. G-c.e.r.i


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    Time: 07:06:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops?
    From: "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
    Do all you guys have normal standard fuel filters? Are they .1 mm ? Can't find a spec. And what about carb heating - water based? Added complexity and risk of leaks in my view? Carbs should be warmed from air flow out of the side top cowl vents and from sitting over the exhaust pipes ( mine have shielded bowls). -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, SmartA3 325 hours &amp; 6 years on the Mono, 930 total g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478420#478420


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    Time: 08:23:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA
    hoops?
    From: David Watts <dg.watts@talktalk.net>
    Graeme I'm personally involved with 3 other Europas besides my own and between us we use the standard Pro Fuel filters or gascolators. As for carb heating, we all use the Skydrive carb heat kit which uses the water system. Dave Watts G-BXDY Classic Mono > On 6 Mar 2018, at 4:05 pm, graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote: > > > Do all you guys have normal standard fuel filters? Are they .1 mm ? Can't find a spec. And what about carb heating - water based? Added complexity and risk of leaks in my view? > Carbs should be warmed from air flow out of the side top cowl vents and from sitting over the exhaust pipes ( mine have shielded bowls). > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, SmartA3 > 325 hours &amp; 6 years on the Mono, 930 total > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478420#478420 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:48:40 AM PST US
    From: "Brian Davies" <brian.davies44@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA
    hoops? Hi Graham, I fitted the water based carb heating 10 years ago. Yes, a bit more pipework but fit and forget otherwise. Remember, carb heating by warm air into intake = loss of power so heating the body of carb is a better way to go. Regards Brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of graeme bird Sent: 06 March 2018 15:06 Subject: Europa-List: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA hoops? Do all you guys have normal standard fuel filters? Are they .1 mm ? Can't find a spec. And what about carb heating - water based? Added complexity and risk of leaks in my view? Carbs should be warmed from air flow out of the side top cowl vents and from sitting over the exhaust pipes ( mine have shielded bowls). -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, SmartA3 325 hours &amp; 6 years on the Mono, 930 total g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478420#478420 --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com


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    Time: 10:03:09 AM PST US
    From: Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA
    hoops? Graeme, I use Pro Fuel filters under pilot and passenger seats, feeding to a 3 way Fuel cock, (Main-Res-OFF) then feeding to an Andair gascolator, electric fuel pump to the engine driven mechanical pump and finally engine. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand ward.t@xtra.co.nz Mob +64 210640221 > On 7/03/2018, at 5:22 AM, David Watts <dg.watts@talktalk.net> wrote: > > > Graeme > > I'm personally involved with 3 other Europas besides my own and between us we use the standard Pro Fuel filters or gascolators. > As for carb heating, we all use the Skydrive carb heat kit which uses the water system. > > Dave Watts > G-BXDY Classic Mono > >> On 6 Mar 2018, at 4:05 pm, graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >> Do all you guys have normal standard fuel filters? Are they .1 mm ? Can't find a spec. And what about carb heating - water based? Added complexity and risk of leaks in my view? >> Carbs should be warmed from air flow out of the side top cowl vents and from sitting over the exhaust pipes ( mine have shielded bowls). >> >> -------- >> Graeme Bird >> G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, SmartA3 >> 325 hours &amp; 6 years on the Mono, 930 total >> g(at)gdbmk.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478420#478420 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 10:27:55 AM PST US
    From: Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: TL2.26 use of mogas - anyone been through the LAA
    hoops? Graeme, Also have the Skydrive Water jacket around the Carb intake for icing, brilliant. Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand ward.t@xtra.co.nz Mob +64 210640221 > On 7/03/2018, at 7:02 AM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > > Graeme, > I use Pro Fuel filters under pilot and passenger seats, feeding to a 3 way Fuel cock, (Main-Res-OFF) then feeding to an Andair gascolator, electric fuel pump to the engine driven mechanical pump and finally engine. > Cheers, > Tim > > Tim Ward > 12 Waiwetu Street, > Fendalton, > Christchurch, 8052 > New Zealand > > ward.t@xtra.co.nz > > Mob +64 210640221 > > >> On 7/03/2018, at 5:22 AM, David Watts <dg.watts@talktalk.net> wrote: >> >> >> Graeme >> >> I'm personally involved with 3 other Europas besides my own and between us we use the standard Pro Fuel filters or gascolators. >> As for carb heating, we all use the Skydrive carb heat kit which uses the water system. >> >> Dave Watts >> G-BXDY Classic Mono >> >>> On 6 Mar 2018, at 4:05 pm, graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Do all you guys have normal standard fuel filters? Are they .1 mm ? Can't find a spec. And what about carb heating - water based? Added complexity and risk of leaks in my view? >>> Carbs should be warmed from air flow out of the side top cowl vents and from sitting over the exhaust pipes ( mine have shielded bowls). >>> >>> -------- >>> Graeme Bird >>> G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S, Woodcomp 3000/3W CS, trutrak Gemini 2 axis AP, PAW, PFLARM core, ads-b out, 8.33khz, mode S, FP-5, Aera500, SD on Nexus, SmartA3 >>> 325 hours &amp; 6 years on the Mono, 930 total >>> g(at)gdbmk.co.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478420#478420 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 12:49:34 PM PST US
    From: Roger Sheridan <rogersheridan@mac.com>
    Subject: Nev's Engine Mount
    Dear All, I believe that Nevs firewall forward design kept the engine in the same location as the XS but with a simpler, one piece, LAA approved engine mount. Is there any reason not to use this mount on an XS install & does anyone know who has the jig. Regards, Roger


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    Time: 12:58:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Corrosion in the engine/nose gear mounting frame
    From: "Ivor" <g-iver@live.co.uk>
    Hi Roland its ten years since i done mine and i used some brass ones, but these steel ones would be preferable to plastic, https://www.amazon.co.uk/12mm-Steel-reducer-joiner-connector/dp/B009C877ZC with a bit of googleing im sure you can source some aluminium ones, best wishes ivor Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478426#478426




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