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1. 01:34 AM - Newbie questions (flyingeuropa)
2. 05:33 AM - Re: Newbie questions (tennant)
3. 06:17 AM - Europa Club 25 years lapel badge / pin (jonathanmilbank)
4. 06:43 AM - Re: Newbie questions (jonathanmilbank)
5. 08:19 AM - Re: Europa Club 25 years lapel badge / pin (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
6. 10:05 AM - Re: Europa Club 25 years lapel badge / pin (spcialeffects)
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| Subject: | Newbie questions |
Hi folks,
I'm totally new to the forum and the Europa itself so just a few words about me.
My name is Simon I'm living in northern Germany and after flying the standard
C172/Pa28 I'm actually owning a tailwheel vintage aircraft.
But since some time I'm thinking about building my own plane and have been searching
the internet for the right one.
I defined my mission, seperated between "nice to have" and "must have", calculated
the budget, read in several forums and I'm still not sure which kit would
be the right one. I'm very attracted by the Europa, being a european product with
european engine, nice performance data, low fuel burn, less trouble with corrosion
due to the composite structure, large baggage compartment, and last but
not least the trigear is looking so nice. To be honest, I personally don't
like the look of the monowheel.
Compared to the VANS Kits there is not that much information available, I joined
the europaclub but still have some concerns/questions.
1. Is the build time of 800 hours achievable for a first time builder. In the picture
gallery of the club the majority lists 2500+
2. I'll definitely need the 517lbs usefull load mentioned on the website europa-aircraft.com
for a 100hp Rotax. Again, the gallery shows empty weights 900+
lbs. I need a simple VFR panel, no autopilot, no big EFIS.
3. Is the Europa trigear critical in trim? Me and wife have together around 330
lbs and would still need the possibility to take full fuel and the 80lbs of baggage.
Maybe some of you can provide their weight and balance data.
4. Is the builder support sufficient? This is one of my biggest concerns...
5. Is there any Europa around -preferable in northern Germany- to have a look
at?
I guess the costs will be 70K+ so it should be the right decision ;o)
Thank you so much for your help and reading this long post.
Simon
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie questions |
Hi Simon,
Where are you in Northern Germany.
Perhaps we can get together.
Best regards
Barry
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Barry Tennant
D-EHBT
At EDLM - Germany
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| Subject: | Europa Club 25 years lapel badge / pin |
Just received mine in the post, which was an unexpected surprise. Many thanks to
our chairman and committee for arranging this gift. Much appreciated.
Jonathan
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie questions |
Hi Simon,
My Europa started life as a mono-wheel and was completed in 1997. In the winter
2013-2014 I converted it to tri-gear, which is much less stressful for me and
my group members during take-off and landing. But it is slower and heavier!
For a first time builder, I suggest that 3000+ hours of building is likely. So
it might be an idea to look for a partially completed kit, if possible.
Empty weight of my aircraft is about average at 868 lbs, which leaves 502 lbs useful,
or 390 lbs available with full fuel. Not too bad, compared with your requirements.
The Europa is not critical in pitch trim; in fact it would be quite difficult to
get it out of trim range.
The best builder support in my opinion is to be found on this forum, where you'll
usually get quick answers from several experienced builders.
You would always be welcome to PM me with your questions and if I don't know an
answer, then I might know of someone who does.
Welcome to the Europa world.
Jonathan
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Club 25 years lapel badge / pin |
Jonathan, Yes the committee have worked hard on this and are pleased
with the result. The major thanks however are due to our hard working
secretary Bob Hitchcock.
Regards, David Joyce, Chair, Europa Club
On 2018-03-12 14:16, jonathanmilbank wrote:
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> Just received mine in the post, which was an unexpected surprise. Many thanks
to our chairman and committee for arranging this gift. Much appreciated.
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> Jonathan
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478615#478615 [1]
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[5] http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Club 25 years lapel badge / pin |
Yes got mine too, many thanks
Regards Frank
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