---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/02/18: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:39 AM - Sun 'n Fun (goff) 2. 04:35 AM - Classic Engine Mount M10 Bolts (italianjon) 3. 07:00 AM - Re: Classic Engine Mount M10 Bolts (Bud Yerly) 4. 07:10 AM - Re: Classic Engine Mount M10 Bolts (italianjon) 5. 07:19 AM - Sun 'n Fun 2018 (Bud Yerly) 6. 07:22 AM - Re: Re: Classic Engine Mount M10 Bolts (Bud Yerly) 7. 07:36 AM - Does anyone have experience with registering foreign aircraft in the US? (William Daniell) 8. 07:52 AM - Re: Classic Engine Mount M10 Bolts (italianjon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:39:06 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Sun 'n Fun From: "goff" Hello all, I'm planning to spend all week at Sun 'n Fun, flying in with British Airways. Anyone else going to be there? Goff Goff Moore G-CHOX Europa XS Tri-Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478976#478976 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/g_chox_sarum_310.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:56 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Classic Engine Mount M10 Bolts From: "italianjon" Hi All, On the Classic, the M10 bolts that hold the engine to the engine mounting frame. The M10x55 and M10x130 in the Europa Classic Build Manual... Is there anything special about them, are they standard 'off-the-shelf' DIN912's? 8.8 or 10.9? It's difficult for me to see the designation markings on mine, and I'd like to have required parts before starting my job. Best Jon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478977#478977 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:34 AM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: Classic Engine Mount M10 Bolts Jon, I won=92t say for sure on the Classic as the bolts I have for the XS ring m ount (similar) appear to be US SAE grade 8 bolts or 10.9 Metric Hardness (+ 830MPa or 120K PSI) which is hardened enough for the task without being to o brittle. I would avoid anything lower grade. These bolts are loaded pr imarily in shear so I worry more about the ring mount wear on the bolt if i t is loose. This frame on the Classic and the later XS ring mount must be shimmed tight. See Rotax for a shim kit if you must shim your mount for an y reason. Lockwood Aviation Rotax supplied Allens for the 914 ring mount appear to be this grade also but there are no markings. Torque is 30NM-35NM depending on the year manual you read and are black anodized and have the right hardn ess... Regards, Bud Yerly Sent from Mail for Window s 10 ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of italianjon Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 7:35:37 AM Subject: Europa-List: Classic Engine Mount M10 Bolts Hi All, On the Classic, the M10 bolts that hold the engine to the engine mounting f rame. The M10x55 and M10x130 in the Europa Classic Build Manual... Is there anything special about them, are they standard 'off-the-shelf' DIN912's? 8 .8 or 10.9? It's difficult for me to see the designation markings on mine, and I'd like to have required parts before starting my job. Best Jon Read this topic online here: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.m atronics.com%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fp%3D478977%23478977&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2ae4 368f04a04a18080b08d5988e56b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6 36582659459635912&sdata=IF9iH%2BsC%2Fu3JjsQ%2BwjrfcjTP%2Fcje7lvzitLxcnTam z4%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2ae4368 f04a04a18080b08d5988e56b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6365 82659459635912&sdata=D8jtnxutY0V9zdUAQamSqjir4MVeVeAW14rHxqLATew%3D&reser ved=0 F%2Fforums.matronics.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2ae4368f04a04a18080b08d5988e56 b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636582659459635912&sdata= SucJ0J1HCd3i9HkSTrTwAmQj0SxRas2GpUINPrCjfBA%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwiki.matronics.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2ae4368f04a04a18080b08d5988e56b7 %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636582659459635912&sdata=ux SlWc8232Is5J2TLMW4qcAkdgB7G4eyIOJw0iFX0Js%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2Fcontribution&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2ae4368f04a04a1808 0b08d5988e56b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636582659459635 912&sdata=DsKSk5R1XhTsqRfnlhDbhRZVdhQn7RpXBZJXTC4jmws%3D&reserved=0 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:35 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Classic Engine Mount M10 Bolts From: "italianjon" Hi Bud, Thanks for the reply. I have a suspect oil leak from the starter, and the engine frame is in the way of the removal. It's a simple, undo, swing the engine forward a little bit, swap the starter and re-fit. No re-shimming should be needed, as I'm not changing anything in the setup. It shouldn't take too long, to do. I just want the right bolts. I'll order some 10.9's Best Jon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478980#478980 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:01 AM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: Europa-List: Sun 'n Fun 2018 I=92ve checked the forecast for the week of 10-15 April (Tuesday through Su nday) at the show will be sunny with a high in the mid 80=92s. Bring your sun screen and warm your bones after this nasty winter, and so called sprin g, and enjoy a spring break. You have no excuses not to enjoy a respite fr om the winter, bond with your fellow aviation enthusiasts, and enjoy some f un in the sun. We have new builders and restarting builders coming on down , and there will be much to share. As the front system presses south with a few showery clouds on Wednesday, s o our northern brothers can follow it down without difficulty either a bit early ahead of it, or plan a mid week arrival on the tail of it. Bring sho rt sleeve shirts, your shorts and some sunscreen. With one week to go, I am all set and have all the gear ready to go for an easy Monday setup. I=92m looking for the best day to have a Europa get tog ether. I believe that Friday will be the best day for an engineering meeti ng. Wipe off the winter woes and get the engine and airframe warmed up and come enjoy a week with us for Sun =91n Fun. Contact me if you are planning to attend or have special needs I can help w ith. Best Regards, Bud Yerly Custom Flight Creations, Inc. US Europa Dealer (813) 244-8354 Personal Email: budyerly@msn.com Sent from Mail for Window s 10 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:13 AM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Classic Engine Mount M10 Bolts It shouldn=92t, but be prepared. I=92ve found a Classic that when the engi ne frame was unbolted, it sprung out a =BC of an inch. Plus, oil leaks can be a bugger. Bud Sent from Mail for Window s 10 ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of italianjon Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 10:10:19 AM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Classic Engine Mount M10 Bolts Hi Bud, Thanks for the reply. I have a suspect oil leak from the starter, and the e ngine frame is in the way of the removal. It's a simple, undo, swing the engine forward a little bit, swap the starte r and re-fit. No re-shimming should be needed, as I'm not changing anything in the setup. It shouldn't take too long, to do. I just want the right bolts. I'll order some 10.9's Best Jon Read this topic online here: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.m atronics.com%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fp%3D478980%23478980&data=02%7C01%7C%7C322f 7b04312a46c0863a08d598a3ee50%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6 36582752195876565&sdata=cndWtUUP0Np5X%2BMGrvDy7GlfxtOjwlk1mqnRk1PqL08%3D& reserved=0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&data=02%7C01%7C%7C322f7b0 4312a46c0863a08d598a3ee50%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6365 82752195876565&sdata=AH0LD0QMdMOcoAEnMKc4fjNXumK8EsqcUJeCgjZPIP0%3D&reser ved=0 F%2Fforums.matronics.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C322f7b04312a46c0863a08d598a3ee 50%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636582752195876565&sdata= dkJ4VE30pri4TtafqmIlwT9RnuTk9KEzWnDeZa46xzc%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwiki.matronics.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C322f7b04312a46c0863a08d598a3ee50 %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636582752195876565&sdata=S5 BPF%2BcwaV%2Fagqx8EizjuI8BFPsw6eEywQCHX%2FRgl0c%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2Fcontribution&data=02%7C01%7C%7C322f7b04312a46c086 3a08d598a3ee50%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636582752195876 565&sdata=l0oNKRkCWTzjJBxzDo64lhAY3JJw5Kf2dxcTwazQMTs%3D&reserved=0 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:21 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Europa-List: Does anyone have experience with registering foreign aircraft in the US? I am planning to bring HJ460 to the US for good around august or September. Can anyone give me any pointers? HJ460 is a Colombian class II ultralight which is like a EU class II ultralight. Many thanks Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:06 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Classic Engine Mount M10 Bolts From: "italianjon" Oh joy! :) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478985#478985 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.