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1. 12:31 AM - Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018 (Hitchflight)
2. 03:02 AM - Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018 (carlp101)
3. 05:23 AM - Re: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018 (James Kelly)
4. 05:50 AM - Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018 (carlp101)
5. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018 (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
6. 09:04 AM - UL91 at Troyes Error (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
7. 01:03 PM - Re: Newbie questions (flyingeuropa)
8. 05:27 PM - Re: Re: Newbie questions (Robert Borger)
9. 11:12 PM - Seatbelts (spcialeffects)
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| Subject: | Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, |
2018
EVENT IS DEFINITELY ON
CHECKOUT THE EUROPA NEWS PAGE
http://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/rassemblement-europa-de-gap-tallard-maintenu
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| Subject: | Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, |
2018
Glad to hear it's still on.
I don't know what routes people are planning to take, but I'm considering the following.
Comments / advice appreciated:
Membury UK to Troyes Barberey via Goodwood, Amiens and DEVIM to clear immigration.
Troyes - Grenoble
Follow the valley south of Grenoble past Corps, Saint Bonnet en Champsaur, Gap
Hospital and into Gap Tallard.
I could route via Valence, but that would be at the expense of some amazing scenery.
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| Subject: | Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June |
9-10, 2018
Hi Carl,
I've been looking at your proposed route. Where do you intend
to clear customs "DEVIM" where's that ?
Best wishes
Jim Kelly G-BWEG Europa taildragger 912 UL
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 11:01 AM, carlp101 <cparkinson@cisc-uk.com> wrote:
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> Glad to hear it's still on.
>
> I don't know what routes people are planning to take, but I'm considering
> the following. Comments / advice appreciated:
>
> Membury UK to Troyes Barberey via Goodwood, Amiens and DEVIM to clear
> immigration.
> Troyes - Grenoble
> Follow the valley south of Grenoble past Corps, Saint Bonnet en Champsaur,
> Gap Hospital and into Gap Tallard.
>
> I could route via Valence, but that would be at the expense of some
> amazing scenery.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479299#479299
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, |
2018
Hi Jim,
I'm planning to clear immigration at Troyes. I just need to let them know before
16:00 local time the day before. DEVIM is an airways reporting point. It's just
to the south-west of Chamouille.
Regards
Carl
G-URMS
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| Subject: | Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June |
9-10, 2018
Troyes is highly reccommended. Good ATC, excellent restaurant , Avgas
and UL91 on serve youself with credit card set up. Grass or hard
runways. Beware, like many French A/Fs it closes at lunchtime. It is
where I clear customs for all my French trips, more or less. Worth
trying to get there by 12MD (11.00 British time) & sample the
restaurant. The city itself is very interesting and worth a stopover.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
On 2018-04-13 13:22, James Kelly wrote:
> Hi Carl,
> I've been looking at your proposed route. Where do you intend to clear customs
"DEVIM" where's that ?
> Best wishes
> Jim Kelly G-BWEG Europa taildragger 912 UL
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 11:01 AM, carlp101 <cparkinson@cisc-uk.com> wrote:
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>>
>> Glad to hear it's still on.
>>
>> I don't know what routes people are planning to take, but I'm considering the
following. Comments / advice appreciated:
>>
>> Membury UK to Troyes Barberey via Goodwood, Amiens and DEVIM to clear immigration.
>> Troyes - Grenoble
>> Follow the valley south of Grenoble past Corps, Saint Bonnet en Champsaur, Gap
Hospital and into Gap Tallard.
>>
>> I could route via Valence, but that would be at the expense of some amazing
scenery.
>>
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| Subject: | UL91 at Troyes Error |
Tim, I thought from memory it does but checking on the SIA website I
find it does not. Sorry, David
On 2018-04-13 16:55, houlihan tim wrote:
> David
>
> Does Troyes have UL91 ?
>
> Tim
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie questions |
Hello again,
after going in some more detail I'm still wondering if I could make the published
empty weight of 387kg/853lbs as mentioned on the website.
Would you do me a favour and post the empty weights and CG of your trigear
maybe with a short summary of the main components ( engine, prop, avionic).
I saw the "a plane is born" movie by Mark Evans. What a cool guy, everthing looked
so doable. From your builders point of view, what is the most difficult/challenging
work? The flight controls are now already done as far as I understood.
Thanks again for your help!
Simon
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie questions |
Simon,
Keep working!
853 lbs is certainly doable with the mono wheel if you build light, build per the
plans (no mods) and use the lightest engine/prop combination. It is more difficult
with the tri gear as all that steel landing gear crap is heavy.
My tri has a 913 lbs empty weight. My C/G ranges from 58.44 to 61.97 depending
on loading state. It is difficult to load out of C/G range.
My Europa has the ROTAX 914 with Airmaster C/S prop. The panel has the small GRT
Sport EFIS with the GRT EIS 4000 engine monitor, Microair radio and transponder
and Garmin GPS Map 496. In addition I have 2 1/4" standby turn coordinator,
airspeed, altimeter and vertical speed.
My guess is that the weight will change a bit when I finish installing the ADS-B
2020 equipment as I have to go back to the big instrument panel to make room
for some extra boxes. When the 2020 thing is finally installed I will have a
new panel without the standby stuff and the Microair transponder. But there
will be a new TRIG transponder and 2020 approved GPS. I hope to have that installed
and working later this year.
The most challenging part of the work is to keep building. Finishing the job is
the hardest part. Dont quit. Do something every day. I really dont remember
anything that was difficult. Well, maybe getting the peel ply out of the flap
root & tip ends was frustrating but not difficult. I have met and talked
to lots of builders who just could not keep building and quit. Dont be that person.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (100 hrs).
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP, Hercules Prop.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Apr 13, 2018, at 3:03 PM, flyingeuropa <s.radzanowski@web.de> wrote:
Hello again,
after going in some more detail I'm still wondering if I could make the published
empty weight of 387kg/853lbs as mentioned on the website.
Would you do me a favour and post the empty weights and CG of your trigear
maybe with a short summary of the main components ( engine, prop, avionic).
I saw the "a plane is born" movie by Mark Evans. What a cool guy, everthing looked
so doable. From your builders point of view, what is the most difficult/challenging
work? The flight controls are now already done as far as I understood.
Thanks again for your help!
Simon
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Does anyone have the specifications of the seatbelts that are supplied by Europa?
eg strength,flammability etc
Many thanks Frank
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