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Tue 04/17/18


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 01:23 AM - Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018 (JohnFrance)
     2. 06:47 AM - Re: Replacement fuel filler pipe for CLASSIC as per SM 13070 (JohnFrance)
     3. 11:36 AM - Re: Seatbelts (rampil)
     4. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: Question re carb balance tube (Bud Yerly)
     5. 01:16 PM - Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Europa Aircraft Dealer (Bud Yerly)
     6. 03:50 PM - Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Europa Aircraft Dealer (Fred Klein)
     7. 05:07 PM - Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Euro (rampil)
     8. 06:18 PM - Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Europa Aircraft Dealer (Robert Borger)
     9. 06:35 PM - Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Europa Aircraft Dealer (Christoph Both)
    10. 06:43 PM - Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Europa Aircraft Dealer  (Fred Klein)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:23:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10,
    2018
    From: "JohnFrance" <77alembert@gmail.com>
    Hello to all, I would like to comment about French airfields with ATC services regarding radio transmissions in English. While I would agree that 10 years ago the level of English was poor, however they have made a massive step forwards and I find all the controllers clear and competent in English. Why would you want to arrive when the tower is closed and use your French when you can use English when it's open? Regards, John [quote="Duncan McFadyean"]I prefer to arrive at French airports during (the 2 hour) lunch 'hour'; I can then blind-call in French and not be caught out by an unusual ATC request! Duncan McF -------- Europa mono Nr 192 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479392#479392


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    Time: 06:47:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Replacement fuel filler pipe for CLASSIC as per SM 13070
    From: "JohnFrance" <77alembert@gmail.com>
    Hello to all, I have had a several requests for information about the aluminium fuel filler pipe for the Classic Europa, owners using the long rubber centrally mounted fuel filler hose for one made of aluminium. A new batch will be ordered when a minimum quantity of 10 has been attained. If you think it will be necessary to change yours any time soon this might be the occasion and of course periodical hose replacement in the future will be with straight hose sections only! Here are the details: The tube will cost 195 or 214.50 plus postage. Postage within France is 20 and to other European countries 25 (27.25) which includes insurance for 200. PM me at 77alembert at gmail.com if you are interested Here is a link to the LAA site which gives further information: http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/engineering/Standard%20Mods/247_Europa%20SM13070%20Classic%20fuel%20filler.pdf Regards, John -------- Europa mono Nr 192 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479394#479394


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    Time: 11:36:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Seatbelts
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    As the Europa was a fully supplied kit, not a plans-built aircraft, There are no specs as you request for any part of the aircraft at all except the Rotax specs for engine fluids. Indeed, engineering specs like flammability requirements are not a part of any OBAM type aircraft. You might be looking for what your local jurisdiction might want. In the US there are no such requirements for Experimental owner built aircraft, only for for factory built aircraft. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479401#479401


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    Time: 12:14:37 PM PST US
    From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Question re carb balance tube
    Nigel, I couldn=92t agree more, but I don=92t think I would have been as kind. Here in the States we have many =93Joe Bag of Doughnuts=94 modifications be ing made and I am glad to see there are others in Europe seeing the same st uff I get to see. In a nutshell, a crossover tube on twin carbs is interesting. You Jaguar/T R owners from the 60s had many =93experts=94 commenting on the dual carb se tups. Personally, =93if it ain=92t broke, don=92t fix=94 it applies here to the R otax. Learning to balance the engine=92s carbs to a fine tune is more impo rtant in my opinion than throwing hardware at it that is dubious. Worn car bs do go out of sink. Gauges are not matched sets (always calibrate a gaug e) and frankly, I learned to balance carbs (once initially set by mechanica l/vacuum) by ear/vibration and sound. I had to put new carbs on 12AY becau se one of them had a piston that just wouldn=92t work smoothly. I built a vacuum setup for my Shop Vac out of PVC/Plastic and built an intake with ma nifold with Rotax rubber to carb supports/seals for both carbs to test side by side. I operated the dry carb throttles until I could see exactly what was happening. The pistons would not operate in sync at any setting but i dle and full. This gave a mid range vibration or shaking problem and barel y made a 300 RPM mag check drop and only after the piston on the right carb would finally move to a near proper position due to the vibration. My new carbs now can be balance by ear/vibration observation of the ignitio n boxes. The mag check coming back from Sun =91n Fun was 100 instead of th e normal 50 drop from the annual in January. The 912S mag drop will be sli ghtly higher than a 914 because of the plug firing difference of the types from being top/bottom L and R vs L and R top then bottom. The large tube, in my opinion, is the American technique of just make it bi gger (high rise manifold with three duce=92s) type mentality. Not really e fficient normally, just easier. So much air could flow through the carbs i t just muddled around the intake. It may allow some extra unmetered fuel a ir to cross over (as the fuel mixing is done low in the manifolds and the t ube is on top) and give you some leaning potential. How much, who knows. They don=92t validate their claims. With no validation, I don=92t throw my money or time at it. We have the HacMan over here for leaning. It pulls intake manifold air and applies it to the float bowl to reduce the fuel air mixture by decreasing the bowl fuel pressure vs the venturi pressure ratio. It can work, is very sensitive, and a sharp eye on the EGT (properly calibrated) and patience i s needed to lean the carbs in flight. It does work, kinda, sorta to lean t he engine and allow more efficiency for cruising with the 912 at 7500 to 10 ,000 MSL. But it not a simple leaning knob/lever as on a late model Cessna /Piper you could pull and lean by RPM/EGT/Kill the engine method. Best Regards, Bud Yerly Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Window s 10 ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matr onics.com> on behalf of Nigel Graham <nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:21:41 AM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Question re carb balance tube .uk> Jonathan, There are some simple clues to judging whether a forum poster knows anythin g about engines or not. If you spot the keyword =9CRPM=99s (wit h an =9CS=9D) you know straight away they do n=99t have a clue! You see it all the time on boy-racer forums for wh om =9Cstage one=9D tuning involves installing a Mega Base, putt ing their baseball caps on back-to-front and describing everyone as a =9Cmud flicker=9D ( .I think that=99s what they =99re saying). The links you posted are classic examples. To understand what the balance pipe does, you need to know how the engine w orks. A petrol engine is an air pump =93 at anything less that wide o pen throttle (WOT), it is working at below atmospheric pressure. The RPM (n o =9Cs=9D) and hence power, is regulated by the throttle butter fly which acts to close off the inlet tract (that=99s why it=99 s called a =9Cthrottle=9D) for idle, and successively open for full power (atmospheric pressure). When you fly in the cruise, you typicall y use about 75% power =93 meaning the throttle butterfly is partially closed and the manifold pressure is below atmospheric. The Rotax engine is a =9CBoxer=9D configuration meaning two cyl inders are on the left and two on the right and the designers decided that the simplest way of feeding fuel mixture to them was to use two separate in duction manifolds and carburettors. Whilst the =9Cpackaging=9D issues were simplified, this introdu ced the problem of ensuring that both systems were perfectly synchronised s o that all cylinders produce equal power. Any difference and the engine wil l vibrate. When you balance the carburettors, you measure the (partial) mean pressure in each manifold and adjust them to be the same. If the mean pressures are the same than there will be NO FLOW through the balance pipe, so there is n o need for a 1.5=9D drain pipe between the manifolds. So why do they fit a balance pipe? Carburettors have been developed over th e years to feed the right amount of fuel throughout the changing rev range and changing atmospheric pressure =93 but small differences in airflo w mean that the two manifolds are almost never exactly matched throughout t he flight profile. The balance pipe allows the small pressure differential to equalise, and smooth out any vibration that would otherwise result. The contributor of the second of your referenced forum postings, Billy-Bob P Sledgehammer III, is frantically calculating how much extra flow he could get though his balance pipe, not realising that he should be aiming to min imise the airflow through it! My advice would be to leave it exactly as Rotax supplied it =93 the p ower unit is surprisingly powerful for its size and very reliable. 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    Time: 01:16:25 PM PST US
    From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Europa
    Aircraft Dealer To All. Over the last 16 years I have been the US Europa Dealer for the US/North Am erica. It has been a wonderful trip. I now am 67 and it is time for me to retire and get away from the 7 day a week shop grind and do some of that e nvious travel that you all get to do. As we all know, and frankly the fact ory admits, the Europa has had a 25 year run. The factory will no longer s upport dealers, but still supply new kits and replacement parts on much of the aircraft. Foam cores and some older parts are no longer supported (rea d Classic and non NG XS cores) but the ever hard working Karen Pool and her assistants will be there to supply new parts/mods and spares as needed. T he new 2018 parts catalogue is out, and orders can be placed with the facto ry directly through Karen. I believe I sold the last two new factory kits some years ago and in this d ay of internet sales, the factory will be your source for parts and new kit s as well as the source for all factory technical support. The good news i s the factory has the molds in tip top shape should the fiberglass formed p arts or kits be needed. I will still be a Europa owner and as active as I can be on the matronics l ist and with the Europa Club. I am keeping open Custom Flight Creations, I nc. in my Seffner shop and at the Plant City Airport for the time being. I will also keep active as the Airmaster Dealer in the US and will be active at Sun =91n Fun for the foreseeable future, opening new markets for Airmas ter and selling propellers and supporting the Europa Club as long as I can. With the termination of my Europa Aircraft dealer status, I will no longe r be inhibited by non-compete clauses and as such can now suggest alternate parts sources and procedures for the US owners. Those of you in the UK an d other countries, which have more restrictive parts and modifications rest rictions, you will always be supported by the factory and of course the exc ellent guidance of the Europa Club and its relationship with the LAA. Please watch my website www.customflightcreations.com<http://www.customflig htcreations.com> over the next weeks and months as many of my ideas, techni ques, tech articles, spare part sources, tools and rigs will be modified an d new ones printed on line to allow the Europa Community to share in the th ings I have learned and done over the years which I could not share in the past. I will continue to give paid builder support in my shop for this yea r. For those aircraft builders who desire a continuous relationship with m e during their build in their shop, for a nominal fee (if I charge at all) I will assist them in their build remotely, as Facetime, Skype, Video Calli ng etc. are all viable ways to keep in touch where I can see exactly what t he builder is working with. I plan to keep the shop open as long as my lan dlord doesn=92t close on me for the near future. Anita and I will be takin g quite a few trips over the next few months, and into the fall and Xmas ti me frame for sure, so I will post a calendar on my site to keep you apprais ed of slots that may be open for those of you in need of hands on assistanc e physically in my shop or are attempting to build in a more comfortable en vironment than your dark, dank hangar in winter. I=92m glad to now just be one of those =9Cspecs=9D owners, with a bit more hands on experience than the average guy and somewhat more opin ionated. Best Regards, Bud and Anita Yerly Custom Flight Creations, Inc. Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Window s 10


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    Time: 03:50:37 PM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <freddythek10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer
    a Europa Aircraft Dealer Budyour standing and influence in the Europa community will not be diminished one iota with your announcementbut I know how it feels when the time comes to =9Chang it up=9DI wish you safe journeys in the traveling you speak of. Your announcement made me feel all the more chagrined at having missed Sun =99N FunI=99d definitely planned to attend but have been laid up w/ a nasty flu I=99m now rapidly running out of excuses for delaying my aircraft=99s first flight Be well, Fred > On Apr 17, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote: > > To All. > > Over the last 16 years I have been the US Europa Dealer for the US/North America. It has been a wonderful trip.


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    Time: 05:07:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer
    a Euro
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    Bud! You have always been there for us Europa builders, owners and flyers. We owe you much appreciation and gratitude! There is always a spare guest room or two up here for when you and Anita Kay transit northbound from FL -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479411#479411


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    Time: 06:18:33 PM PST US
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer
    a Europa Aircraft Dealer Bud, Welcome to the world of the semi-retired. I think you will find it fun and entertaining. You have no idea how much we appreciate your mentorship and your opinions. Please keep those coming. I=99ll be watching your web site eagerly for your new and updated postings. Please let us know if you are ever in the north Texas area. Our home is open to you and we can show your some excellent restaurants. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (100 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP, Hercules Prop. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Apr 17, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote: To All. Over the last 16 years I have been the US Europa Dealer for the US/North America. It has been a wonderful trip. I now am 67 and it is time for me to retire and get away from the 7 day a week shop grind and do some of that envious travel that you all get to do. As we all know, and frankly the factory admits, the Europa has had a 25 year run. The factory will no longer support dealers, but still supply new kits and replacement parts on much of the aircraft. Foam cores and some older parts are no longer supported (read Classic and non NG XS cores) but the ever hard working Karen Pool and her assistants will be there to supply new parts/mods and spares as needed. The new 2018 parts catalogue is out, and orders can be placed with the factory directly through Karen. I believe I sold the last two new factory kits some years ago and in this day of internet sales, the factory will be your source for parts and new kits as well as the source for all factory technical support. The good news is the factory has the molds in tip top shape should the fiberglass formed parts or kits be needed. I will still be a Europa owner and as active as I can be on the matronics list and with the Europa Club. I am keeping open Custom Flight Creations, Inc. in my Seffner shop and at the Plant City Airport for the time being. I will also keep active as the Airmaster Dealer in the US and will be active at Sun =98n Fun for the foreseeable future, opening new markets for Airmaster and selling propellers and supporting the Europa Club as long as I can. With the termination of my Europa Aircraft dealer status, I will no longer be inhibited by non-compete clauses and as such can now suggest alternate parts sources and procedures for the US owners. Those of you in the UK and other countries, which have more restrictive parts and modifications restrictions, you will always be supported by the factory and of course the excellent guidance of the Europa Club and its relationship with the LAA. Please watch my website www.customflightcreations.com <http://www.customflightcreations.com/> over the next weeks and months as many of my ideas, techniques, tech articles, spare part sources, tools and rigs will be modified and new ones printed on line to allow the Europa Community to share in the things I have learned and done over the years which I could not share in the past. I will continue to give paid builder support in my shop for this year. For those aircraft builders who desire a continuous relationship with me during their build in their shop, for a nominal fee (if I charge at all) I will assist them in their build remotely, as Facetime, Skype, Video Calling etc. are all viable ways to keep in touch where I can see exactly what the builder is working with. I plan to keep the shop open as long as my landlord doesn=99t close on me for the near future. Anita and I will be taking quite a few trips over the next few months, and into the fall and Xmas time frame for sure, so I will post a calendar on my site to keep you appraised of slots that may be open for those of you in need of hands on assistance physically in my shop or are attempting to build in a more comfortable environment than your dark, dank hangar in winter. I=99m glad to now just be one of those =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93specs=C3 =A2=82=AC=C2=9D owners, with a bit more hands on experience than the average guy and somewhat more opinionated. Best Regards, Bud and Anita Yerly Custom Flight Creations, Inc. Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10


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    Time: 06:35:42 PM PST US
    From: Christoph Both <christoph.both@acadiau.ca>
    Subject: Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer
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    Time: 06:43:52 PM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <freddythek10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a
    Europa Aircraft Dealer Budyour standing and influence in the Europa community will not be diminished one iota with your announcementbut I know how it feels when the time comes to =9Chang it up=9DI wish you safe journeys in the traveling you speak of. Your announcement made me feel all the more chagrined at having missed Sun =99N FunI=99d definitely planned to attend but have been laid up w/ a nasty flu I=99m now rapidly running out of excuses for delaying my aircraft=99s first flight Be well, Fred > On Apr 17, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com <mailto:budyerly@msn.com>> wrote: > > To All. > > Over the last 16 years I have been the US Europa Dealer for the US/North America. It has been a wonderful trip.




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