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1. 01:23 AM - Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018 (JohnFrance)
2. 06:47 AM - Re: Replacement fuel filler pipe for CLASSIC as per SM 13070 (JohnFrance)
3. 11:36 AM - Re: Seatbelts (rampil)
4. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: Question re carb balance tube (Bud Yerly)
5. 01:16 PM - Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Europa Aircraft Dealer (Bud Yerly)
6. 03:50 PM - Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Europa Aircraft Dealer (Fred Klein)
7. 05:07 PM - Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Euro (rampil)
8. 06:18 PM - Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Europa Aircraft Dealer (Robert Borger)
9. 06:35 PM - Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Europa Aircraft Dealer (Christoph Both)
10. 06:43 PM - Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Europa Aircraft Dealer (Fred Klein)
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Subject: | Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, |
2018
Hello to all,
I would like to comment about French airfields with ATC services regarding radio
transmissions in English.
While I would agree that 10 years ago the level of English was poor, however they
have made a massive step forwards and I find all the controllers clear and
competent in English.
Why would you want to arrive when the tower is closed and use your French when
you can use English when it's open?
Regards,
John
[quote="Duncan McFadyean"]I prefer to arrive at French airports during (the 2 hour)
lunch 'hour'; I can then blind-call in French and not be caught out by an
unusual ATC request!
Duncan McF
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Subject: | Re: Replacement fuel filler pipe for CLASSIC as per SM 13070 |
Hello to all,
I have had a several requests for information about the aluminium fuel filler pipe
for the Classic Europa, owners using the long rubber centrally mounted fuel
filler hose for one made of aluminium.
A new batch will be ordered when a minimum quantity of 10 has been attained. If
you think it will be necessary to change yours any time soon this might be the
occasion and of course periodical hose replacement in the future will be with
straight hose sections only!
Here are the details:
The tube will cost 195 or 214.50 plus postage. Postage within France is 20 and
to other European countries 25 (27.25) which includes insurance for 200.
PM me at 77alembert at gmail.com if you are interested
Here is a link to the LAA site which gives further information:
http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/engineering/Standard%20Mods/247_Europa%20SM13070%20Classic%20fuel%20filler.pdf
Regards,
John
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As the Europa was a fully supplied kit, not a plans-built aircraft,
There are no specs as you request for any part
of the aircraft at all except the Rotax specs for engine
fluids. Indeed, engineering specs like flammability requirements
are not a part of any OBAM type aircraft. You might
be looking for what your local jurisdiction might want.
In the US there are no such requirements for
Experimental owner built aircraft, only for
for factory built aircraft.
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Subject: | Re: Question re carb balance tube |
Nigel,
I couldn=92t agree more, but I don=92t think I would have been as kind.
Here in the States we have many =93Joe Bag of Doughnuts=94 modifications be
ing made and I am glad to see there are others in Europe seeing the same st
uff I get to see.
In a nutshell, a crossover tube on twin carbs is interesting. You Jaguar/T
R owners from the 60s had many =93experts=94 commenting on the dual carb se
tups.
Personally, =93if it ain=92t broke, don=92t fix=94 it applies here to the R
otax. Learning to balance the engine=92s carbs to a fine tune is more impo
rtant in my opinion than throwing hardware at it that is dubious. Worn car
bs do go out of sink. Gauges are not matched sets (always calibrate a gaug
e) and frankly, I learned to balance carbs (once initially set by mechanica
l/vacuum) by ear/vibration and sound. I had to put new carbs on 12AY becau
se one of them had a piston that just wouldn=92t work smoothly. I built a
vacuum setup for my Shop Vac out of PVC/Plastic and built an intake with ma
nifold with Rotax rubber to carb supports/seals for both carbs to test side
by side. I operated the dry carb throttles until I could see exactly what
was happening. The pistons would not operate in sync at any setting but i
dle and full. This gave a mid range vibration or shaking problem and barel
y made a 300 RPM mag check drop and only after the piston on the right carb
would finally move to a near proper position due to the vibration.
My new carbs now can be balance by ear/vibration observation of the ignitio
n boxes. The mag check coming back from Sun =91n Fun was 100 instead of th
e normal 50 drop from the annual in January. The 912S mag drop will be sli
ghtly higher than a 914 because of the plug firing difference of the types
from being top/bottom L and R vs L and R top then bottom.
The large tube, in my opinion, is the American technique of just make it bi
gger (high rise manifold with three duce=92s) type mentality. Not really e
fficient normally, just easier. So much air could flow through the carbs i
t just muddled around the intake. It may allow some extra unmetered fuel a
ir to cross over (as the fuel mixing is done low in the manifolds and the t
ube is on top) and give you some leaning potential. How much, who knows.
They don=92t validate their claims. With no validation, I don=92t throw my
money or time at it.
We have the HacMan over here for leaning. It pulls intake manifold air and
applies it to the float bowl to reduce the fuel air mixture by decreasing
the bowl fuel pressure vs the venturi pressure ratio. It can work, is very
sensitive, and a sharp eye on the EGT (properly calibrated) and patience i
s needed to lean the carbs in flight. It does work, kinda, sorta to lean t
he engine and allow more efficiency for cruising with the 912 at 7500 to 10
,000 MSL. But it not a simple leaning knob/lever as on a late model Cessna
/Piper you could pull and lean by RPM/EGT/Kill the engine method.
Best Regards,
Bud Yerly
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matr
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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:21:41 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Question re carb balance tube
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Jonathan,
There are some simple clues to judging whether a forum poster knows anythin
g about engines or not. If you spot the keyword =9CRPM=99s (wit
h an =9CS=9D) you know straight away they do
n=99t have a clue! You see it all the time on boy-racer forums for wh
om =9Cstage one=9D tuning involves installing a Mega Base, putt
ing their baseball caps on back-to-front and describing everyone as a
=9Cmud flicker=9D ( .I think that=99s what they
=99re saying).
The links you posted are classic examples.
To understand what the balance pipe does, you need to know how the engine w
orks. A petrol engine is an air pump =93 at anything less that wide o
pen throttle (WOT), it is working at below atmospheric pressure. The RPM (n
o =9Cs=9D) and hence power, is regulated by the throttle butter
fly which acts to close off the inlet tract (that=99s why it=99
s called a =9Cthrottle=9D) for idle, and successively open for
full power (atmospheric pressure). When you fly in the cruise, you typicall
y use about 75% power =93 meaning the throttle butterfly is partially
closed and the manifold pressure is below atmospheric.
The Rotax engine is a =9CBoxer=9D configuration meaning two cyl
inders are on the left and two on the right and the designers decided that
the simplest way of feeding fuel mixture to them was to use two separate in
duction manifolds and carburettors.
Whilst the =9Cpackaging=9D issues were simplified, this introdu
ced the problem of ensuring that both systems were perfectly synchronised s
o that all cylinders produce equal power. Any difference and the engine wil
l vibrate.
When you balance the carburettors, you measure the (partial) mean pressure
in each manifold and adjust them to be the same. If the mean pressures are
the same than there will be NO FLOW through the balance pipe, so there is n
o need for a 1.5=9D drain pipe between the manifolds.
So why do they fit a balance pipe? Carburettors have been developed over th
e years to feed the right amount of fuel throughout the changing rev range
and changing atmospheric pressure =93 but small differences in airflo
w mean that the two manifolds are almost never exactly matched throughout t
he flight profile. The balance pipe allows the small pressure differential
to equalise, and smooth out any vibration that would otherwise result.
The contributor of the second of your referenced forum postings, Billy-Bob
P Sledgehammer III, is frantically calculating how much extra flow he could
get though his balance pipe, not realising that he should be aiming to min
imise the airflow through it!
My advice would be to leave it exactly as Rotax supplied it =93 the p
ower unit is surprisingly powerful for its size and very reliable.
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Subject: | Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a Europa |
Aircraft Dealer
To All.
Over the last 16 years I have been the US Europa Dealer for the US/North Am
erica. It has been a wonderful trip. I now am 67 and it is time for me to
retire and get away from the 7 day a week shop grind and do some of that e
nvious travel that you all get to do. As we all know, and frankly the fact
ory admits, the Europa has had a 25 year run. The factory will no longer s
upport dealers, but still supply new kits and replacement parts on much of
the aircraft. Foam cores and some older parts are no longer supported (rea
d Classic and non NG XS cores) but the ever hard working Karen Pool and her
assistants will be there to supply new parts/mods and spares as needed. T
he new 2018 parts catalogue is out, and orders can be placed with the facto
ry directly through Karen.
I believe I sold the last two new factory kits some years ago and in this d
ay of internet sales, the factory will be your source for parts and new kit
s as well as the source for all factory technical support. The good news i
s the factory has the molds in tip top shape should the fiberglass formed p
arts or kits be needed.
I will still be a Europa owner and as active as I can be on the matronics l
ist and with the Europa Club. I am keeping open Custom Flight Creations, I
nc. in my Seffner shop and at the Plant City Airport for the time being. I
will also keep active as the Airmaster Dealer in the US and will be active
at Sun =91n Fun for the foreseeable future, opening new markets for Airmas
ter and selling propellers and supporting the Europa Club as long as I can.
With the termination of my Europa Aircraft dealer status, I will no longe
r be inhibited by non-compete clauses and as such can now suggest alternate
parts sources and procedures for the US owners. Those of you in the UK an
d other countries, which have more restrictive parts and modifications rest
rictions, you will always be supported by the factory and of course the exc
ellent guidance of the Europa Club and its relationship with the LAA.
Please watch my website www.customflightcreations.com<http://www.customflig
htcreations.com> over the next weeks and months as many of my ideas, techni
ques, tech articles, spare part sources, tools and rigs will be modified an
d new ones printed on line to allow the Europa Community to share in the th
ings I have learned and done over the years which I could not share in the
past. I will continue to give paid builder support in my shop for this yea
r. For those aircraft builders who desire a continuous relationship with m
e during their build in their shop, for a nominal fee (if I charge at all)
I will assist them in their build remotely, as Facetime, Skype, Video Calli
ng etc. are all viable ways to keep in touch where I can see exactly what t
he builder is working with. I plan to keep the shop open as long as my lan
dlord doesn=92t close on me for the near future. Anita and I will be takin
g quite a few trips over the next few months, and into the fall and Xmas ti
me frame for sure, so I will post a calendar on my site to keep you apprais
ed of slots that may be open for those of you in need of hands on assistanc
e physically in my shop or are attempting to build in a more comfortable en
vironment than your dark, dank hangar in winter.
I=92m glad to now just be one of those =9Cspecs=9D owners, with
a bit more hands on experience than the average guy and somewhat more opin
ionated.
Best Regards,
Bud and Anita Yerly
Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
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Subject: | Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer |
a Europa Aircraft Dealer
Budyour standing and influence in the Europa community will not
be diminished one iota with your announcementbut I know how it
feels when the time comes to =9Chang it up=9DI wish
you safe journeys in the traveling you speak of.
Your announcement made me feel all the more chagrined at having missed
Sun =99N FunI=99d definitely planned to attend but
have been laid up w/ a nasty flu I=99m now rapidly
running out of excuses for delaying my aircraft=99s first
flight
Be well,
Fred
> On Apr 17, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
>
> To All.
>
> Over the last 16 years I have been the US Europa Dealer for the
US/North America. It has been a wonderful trip.
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Subject: | Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer |
a Euro
Bud!
You have always been there for us Europa builders, owners
and flyers. We owe you much appreciation and gratitude!
There is always a spare guest room or two up here for when
you and Anita Kay transit northbound from FL
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Subject: | Re: Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer |
a Europa Aircraft Dealer
Bud,
Welcome to the world of the semi-retired. I think you will find it fun
and entertaining. You have no idea how much we appreciate your
mentorship and your opinions. Please keep those coming. I=99ll
be watching your web site eagerly for your new and updated postings.
Please let us know if you are ever in the north Texas area. Our home is
open to you and we can show your some excellent restaurants.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (100 hrs).
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP, Hercules
Prop.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Apr 17, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
To All.
Over the last 16 years I have been the US Europa Dealer for the US/North
America. It has been a wonderful trip. I now am 67 and it is time for
me to retire and get away from the 7 day a week shop grind and do some
of that envious travel that you all get to do. As we all know, and
frankly the factory admits, the Europa has had a 25 year run. The
factory will no longer support dealers, but still supply new kits and
replacement parts on much of the aircraft. Foam cores and some older
parts are no longer supported (read Classic and non NG XS cores) but the
ever hard working Karen Pool and her assistants will be there to supply
new parts/mods and spares as needed. The new 2018 parts catalogue is
out, and orders can be placed with the factory directly through Karen.
I believe I sold the last two new factory kits some years ago and in
this day of internet sales, the factory will be your source for parts
and new kits as well as the source for all factory technical support.
The good news is the factory has the molds in tip top shape should the
fiberglass formed parts or kits be needed.
I will still be a Europa owner and as active as I can be on the
matronics list and with the Europa Club. I am keeping open Custom
Flight Creations, Inc. in my Seffner shop and at the Plant City Airport
for the time being. I will also keep active as the Airmaster Dealer in
the US and will be active at Sun =98n Fun for the foreseeable
future, opening new markets for Airmaster and selling propellers and
supporting the Europa Club as long as I can. With the termination of my
Europa Aircraft dealer status, I will no longer be inhibited by
non-compete clauses and as such can now suggest alternate parts sources
and procedures for the US owners. Those of you in the UK and other
countries, which have more restrictive parts and modifications
restrictions, you will always be supported by the factory and of course
the excellent guidance of the Europa Club and its relationship with the
LAA.
Please watch my website www.customflightcreations.com
<http://www.customflightcreations.com/> over the next weeks and months
as many of my ideas, techniques, tech articles, spare part sources,
tools and rigs will be modified and new ones printed on line to allow
the Europa Community to share in the things I have learned and done over
the years which I could not share in the past. I will continue to give
paid builder support in my shop for this year. For those aircraft
builders who desire a continuous relationship with me during their build
in their shop, for a nominal fee (if I charge at all) I will assist them
in their build remotely, as Facetime, Skype, Video Calling etc. are all
viable ways to keep in touch where I can see exactly what the builder is
working with. I plan to keep the shop open as long as my landlord
doesn=99t close on me for the near future. Anita and I will be
taking quite a few trips over the next few months, and into the fall and
Xmas time frame for sure, so I will post a calendar on my site to keep
you appraised of slots that may be open for those of you in need of
hands on assistance physically in my shop or are attempting to build in
a more comfortable environment than your dark, dank hangar in winter.
I=99m glad to now just be one of those =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93specs=C3
=A2=82=AC=C2=9D owners, with a bit more hands on experience than the
average guy and somewhat more opinionated.
Best Regards,
Bud and Anita Yerly
Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
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Subject: | Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. is no longer a |
Europa Aircraft Dealer
Budyour standing and influence in the Europa community will not
be diminished one iota with your announcementbut I know how it
feels when the time comes to =9Chang it up=9DI wish
you safe journeys in the traveling you speak of.
Your announcement made me feel all the more chagrined at having missed
Sun =99N FunI=99d definitely planned to attend but
have been laid up w/ a nasty flu I=99m now rapidly
running out of excuses for delaying my aircraft=99s first
flight
Be well,
Fred
> On Apr 17, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com
<mailto:budyerly@msn.com>> wrote:
>
> To All.
>
> Over the last 16 years I have been the US Europa Dealer for the
US/North America. It has been a wonderful trip.
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