---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/01/18: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:46 AM - Re: Fuel Management (tennant) 2. 08:25 AM - Re: Fuel Management (AirEupora) 3. 08:27 AM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__Re:_Fuel_Management? () 4. 09:32 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Management (William Daniell) 5. 11:49 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Management (Kevin Challis) 6. 01:20 PM - Re: Fuel Management (tennant) 7. 11:05 PM - Official Europa-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle) 8. 11:15 PM - Official Europa-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:30 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fuel Management From: "tennant" Hi Mike, I have been using a fuel totaliser for over 20 years. I have an old fashioned 912UL so I fitted it after the tank return. It took a while to calibrate but is spot on and I would not want to be without it. No guesswork means you can extend your effective range. I originally fitted the sight gauge but took it out after a few years as it was unreliable and I did not Need it anyway. Barry -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480555#480555 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:39 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fuel Management From: "AirEupora" Hi mike, glad to see your building time. I have Bud Yerly's pipe down the side of the seat. It works great, but I've gotten to fat and it's hard to see in flight, but I have mirror so I can see it. I also have the MGL Voyager with a Calc tank that uses the Red Cube. After about five flights I have it dialed in the +/- .2 gallon. Sundays flight was Calc 9.4 actual was 9.17, but I could have put more fuel after it settled, but I had turn the pump off. I also never fly over 2.3 hours on a tank. It's a little scary when the engine quits and you have to switch to the reverse tank. Been there, none that. I want an airport off my wing when I do that. There is suppose to be 2 1/2 gallons in that side of the tank, but it seems on fill-up that there is less than that. Rick Stockton N120EJ, Jabiru 3300L 189 hours Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480558#480558 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:48 AM PST US From: Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Europa-List:_Re:_Fuel_Management? 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The owner told me that he simple doubles the consumption. Has anyone seen this elsewhere? Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:25 AM, AirEupora wrote: > > Hi mike, glad to see your building time. > > I have Bud Yerly's pipe down the side of the seat. It works great, but > I've gotten to fat and it's hard to see in flight, but I have mirror so I > can see it. > > I also have the MGL Voyager with a Calc tank that uses the Red Cube. > After about five flights I have it dialed in the +/- .2 gallon. Sundays > flight was Calc 9.4 actual was 9.17, but I could have put more fuel after > it settled, but I had turn the pump off. > > I also never fly over 2.3 hours on a tank. It's a little scary when the > engine quits and you have to switch to the reverse tank. Been there, none > that. I want an airport off my wing when I do that. There is suppose to > be 2 1/2 gallons in that side of the tank, but it seems on fill-up that > there is less than that. > > Rick Stockton > N120EJ, Jabiru 3300L > 189 hours > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480558#480558 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:49:29 AM PST US From: Kevin Challis Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Fuel Management I have a flow sender after the return line. It works well a bit of adjusting the values to start with but once it=99s set correctly very accurate. Gives great piece of mind unless you are very unlucky and get a leaking tan k. Kevin Challis > On 1 Jun 2018, at 17:32, William Daniell wro te: > > Just out of interest I have seen a pipstrelle here which has one red cube o n the feed line to one of the Carbs. The owner told me that he simple doubl es the consumption. > > Has anyone seen this elsewhere? > > Will > > William Daniell > LONGPORT > +57 310 295 0744 > >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:25 AM, AirEupora wrot e: >> >> Hi mike, glad to see your building time. >> >> I have Bud Yerly's pipe down the side of the seat. It works great, but I 've gotten to fat and it's hard to see in flight, but I have mirror so I can see it. >> >> I also have the MGL Voyager with a Calc tank that uses the Red Cube. Aft er about five flights I have it dialed in the +/- .2 gallon. Sundays flight was Calc 9.4 actual was 9.17, but I could have put more fuel after it settl ed, but I had turn the pump off. >> >> I also never fly over 2.3 hours on a tank. It's a little scary when the e ngine quits and you have to switch to the reverse tank. Been there, none th at. I want an airport off my wing when I do that. There is suppose to be 2 1/2 gallons in that side of the tank, but it seems on fill-up that there i s less than that. >> >> Rick Stockton >> N120EJ, Jabiru 3300L >> 189 hours >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480558#480558 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========================= >> pa-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Na vigator?Europa-List >> ========================= >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========================= >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========================= >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> ========================= >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:20:51 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fuel Management From: "tennant" I have an M&G Elba - 20 year reliability. 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