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Sun 06/17/18


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 01:01 AM - Re: Quiet usb charger recommendation. (Ivor)
     2. 02:21 AM - Re: Gurgling (burping) (ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net)
     3. 02:32 AM - Re: Quiet usb charger recommendation. (ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net)
     4. 02:34 AM - Re: Quiet usb charger recommendation. (David Watts)
     5. 04:54 AM - Re: Quiet usb charger recommendation. (Ivor)
     6. 01:56 PM - Skib ibague colombia HJ460 (William Daniell)
     7. 02:21 PM - Hj460 SKIB (William Daniell)
     8. 02:57 PM - Re: Skib ibague colombia HJ460 (Robert Borger)
     9. 03:43 PM - Re: Skib ibague colombia HJ460 (William Daniell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:01:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Quiet usb charger recommendation.
    From: "Ivor" <g-iver@live.co.uk>
    Only three!! after many tries with numerous USB chargers with limited success, because some are noisy on different frequencies and on others they are quiet, so bit the bullet and brought from this company http://www.charge4.co.uk. A lot of money but now no interference on any channel and recharges a couple of Ipads with no problem, peace and quiet comes at a price :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480947#480947


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    Time: 02:21:42 AM PST US
    From: "ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net" <ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net>
    Subject: Re: Gurgling (burping)
    Alan, I think you've missed my point, which was about how far the oil can drain d own during certain aspects of normal use. Of course there is a procedure to follow for reinstating oil to the tank to be able to accurately confirm th at sufficient total quantity of oil is present. The later dipsticks provide for a greater quantity of oil than the early ve rsions, probably in response to this in-use 'drainage' issue and to reduce the danger of the oil circuit becoming unprimed. Note also that the UL Power engines now need a greater quantity to prevent oil starvation during aerobatics; similar sort of issue. Duncna McF. ----Original Message---- From: alanb@dpy01.co.uk Subj: Re: Europa-List: Gurgling (burping) >>I find there is a net drain of oil (from the catch tank) during any prolo nged idle (e.g of a few minutes, and including glide decents) where followe d by shutdown. Alarmingly so on occasions (to below the minimum dipstick ma rk). << The max - min marks in the dipstick only have meaning after the gurgling pr ocess in SI-27-1997 are you doing that first? AlanG-OBJT Sent from my iPad On 16 Jun 2018, at 12:14, Alan Burrill <alanb@dpy01.co.uk> wrote: I assume that you are following SI-27-1997 on checking the oils level. Personally I check after flight, I let the engine cool a little first, and that usually results in the =9Cgurgle=9D after only a few blade s. I also check before flight when engine cold but if I=99ve done it after flight the check, when cold, only needs a few blades as all the oil h as already been returned to the tank. Never had oil draining from the tank back into the engine. I have found cold engines will take 10 or 12 blades, sometime more, to get the gurgle and this is often when I=99ve hired something Rotax and th e previous user has not done it warm. AlanG-OBJT Sent from my iPad On 16 Jun 2018, at 11:30, "ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net" <ami-mcfadyean@talkt alk.net> wrote: Jonathan,How do you know that the oil is draining overnight? Do you check o il level immediately after last engine shutdown?I ask because I find there is a net drain of oil (from the catch tank) during any prolonged idle (e.g of a few minutes, and including glide decents) where followed by shutdown. Alarmingly so on occasions (to below the minimum dipstick mark). Prolonged idle may sometimes be unavoidable during taxiing in traffic, or voluntary, such as when allowing exhaust valves/piston rings (and turbo?) to cool bef ore shutdown. Duncan McF. From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matr onics.com> on behalf of jonathanmilbank <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 5:53:47 PM Subject: Europa-List: Gurgling (burping) > My 912ULS engine has done 250 hours since complete strip-down and rebuild a fter I bought it from an acknowledged Rotax engine expert. The three others who share the Europa with me are all happy with how sweetly it runs. The c ompressions were measured very recently and are excellent (close to 200 psi). The oil pressure is good being in th e vicinity of 4 bar. BUT.... Nine times out of ten the oil drains quickly (overnight) from the tank to a level below the flat on the dipstick. This wasn't always so and has become worse over time. It used to take about a dozen compressions done quite slo wly to push the oil back into the tank, while these days it can often take 50 or more compressions. Why? My supposition is that the oil escapes past the oil pump and the rate of es cape depends on the position of the pump lobes when at rest. So if the oil pressure remains good in flight, what's changed? Perhaps the oil pressure r elief valve is sticking in some way? Your experience and knowledge of likely causes would be gratefully received . 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    Time: 02:32:01 AM PST US
    From: "ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net" <ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net>
    Subject: Re: Quiet usb charger recommendation.
    The Pilotaware company refer to Anker chargers as being quiet. But I have no direct experience to confirm that. Duncan McF. ----Original Message---- From: wdaniell.longport@gmail.com Subj: Europa-List: Quiet usb charger recommendation. I have three....the interesting thing is that they all started quiet but 2 of the three one a Duracell and the other a Chinese whatever have become intermitently noisy. The quiet one is from an ancient tomtom gps. Go figure. Can anyone recommend quiet usb chargers (cigarette lighter type)? Thanks Will


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    Time: 02:34:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Quiet usb charger recommendation.
    From: David Watts <dg.watts@talktalk.net>
    Will I have used the USB chargers from OnebyOne and Anker. They are smart intelligent chargers and I have had no interference problems since using them and they are not overly expensive. Dave Watts G-BXDY > On 17 Jun 2018, at 3:04 am, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have three....the interesting thing is that they all started quiet but 2 of the three one a Duracell and the other a Chinese whatever have become intermitently noisy. > > The quiet one is from an ancient tomtom gps. Go figure. > > Can anyone recommend quiet usb chargers (cigarette lighter type)? > > Thanks > > Will


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    Time: 04:54:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Quiet usb charger recommendation.
    From: "Ivor" <g-iver@live.co.uk>
    [quote="Duncan McFadyean"]The Pilotaware company refer to Anker chargers as being quiet. But I have no direct experience to confirm that. Duncan McF. --- Duncan I have a couple of Anker ones and they are certainly better than most but was still getting interference on some frequencies, so decided to try and keep my diminished hearing from being ruined with constant background noise, i can listen now with volume at a moderate level so IMO money well spent Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480951#480951


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    Time: 01:56:51 PM PST US
    From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
    Subject: Skib ibague colombia HJ460


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    Time: 02:21:05 PM PST US
    From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
    Subject: Hj460 SKIB


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    Time: 02:57:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Skib ibague colombia HJ460
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    William, You have a beautiful aircraft! It must fly like an angel. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (130 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP, Hercules Prop. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Jun 17, 2018, at 3:55 PM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wrote: <20180617_105328.jpg>


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    Time: 03:43:40 PM PST US
    From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Skib ibague colombia HJ460
    Thank you (Im an absurdly proud father) Will On Sun, Jun 17, 2018, 16:59 Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com> wrote: > > William, > > You have a beautiful aircraft! It must fly like an angel. > > Blue skies & tailwinds, > Bob Borger > Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (130 hrs). > Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP, Hercules > Prop. > 3705 Lynchburg Dr. > Corinth, TX 76208-5331 > Cel: 817-992-1117 > rlborger@mac.com > > On Jun 17, 2018, at 3:55 PM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > <20180617_105328.jpg> > >




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