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1. 07:53 AM - Re: Fuel line parts (Eoin Maguire)
2. 11:02 AM - Instrument Panel (Eoin Maguire)
3. 11:11 AM - Re: Instrument Panel (Mike Christine Duane)
4. 11:47 AM - Re: Instrument Panel (JonathanMilbank)
5. 01:07 PM - Re: Instrument Panel (Eoin Maguire)
6. 01:32 PM - Re: Re: Instrument Panel (Eoin Maguire)
7. 01:53 PM - Re: Instrument Panel (JonathanMilbank)
8. 02:38 PM - Re: Tailplane shaft installation (n7188u)
9. 02:39 PM - Re: Re: Instrument Panel (Alan Burrill)
10. 07:31 PM - Re: Re: Instrument Panel (david park)
11. 11:25 PM - Re: Appeal to European Europa owners, aviation Garmin question (Richard Lamprey)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel line parts |
Hi Rowland
Apologies I just realised this message went into my junk mail so Ive only just
seen it.
Actually got sorted with Karen, shes hopefully dispatching the parts tomorrow so
Im sorted.
Kind Regards
Eoin
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> On 27 Sep 2018, at 14:30, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 2018-09-27, at 14:10, Eoin Maguire <eoinmaguire@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Just wondering does anyone have any new t pieces (two of) and one t piece with
restrictor for sale from the fuel system.
>>
>> Part nos from Europa catalogue:
>> Restrictor - FS02
>> T Piece HFTS 6-6-6
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>
> Eoin - sorry, I dont have any spare restrictors, but I do have 2-off HFTS 6-6-6
Tee-pieces surplus to requirements (Im using AN fittings and stainless braided
fuel hose). Whereabouts in the world are you? I see that the Europa parts
catalogue lists them at 5.68 each - have you asked Karen if they are in stock?
>
> As an afterthought, anyone with a small lathe (like me) and a bit of spare time
(not like me!) could probably knock up a restrictor from a piece of brass stock
quite easily. However, there does seem to be a range of opinions on the right
size of hole - the Rotax values dont seem to match the pieces that Europa
supplied.
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
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| Subject: | Instrument Panel |
Hi All
This may sound like a daft question but Im trying to figure out how to access the
back of our instrument panel.
I need to change out the asi which when I take our the four alan bolts holding
it in will fall back into the panel.....if Im right its a moulded panel so those
the entire panel need to come away to get at it and if so how?
Kind Regards
Eoin
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument Panel |
The full console is moulded but most builders have two aluminum faceplates. One
for the instruments and the other for the radio stack. These each have mounting
screws they allow you to remove each panel for modifications.
Is yours not built this way?
Mike Duane
Europa XS
Las Vegas, NV
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> On Oct 3, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Eoin Maguire <eoinmaguire@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi All
>
> This may sound like a daft question but Im trying to figure out how to access
the back of our instrument panel.
>
> I need to change out the asi which when I take our the four alan bolts holding
it in will fall back into the panel.....if Im right its a moulded panel so those
the entire panel need to come away to get at it and if so how?
>
> Kind Regards
> Eoin
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument Panel |
Eoin, I hope you're small-built like me. This is just about the worst job that
I've ever had to do, including the removal of engine and gearbox from an original
little Morris Mini car. In fact it's worse than that because if your panel
doesn't have the removable facia described by Mike, then you're going to be "in
a world of pain"!
The "binnacle" or console is attached to the firewall by screws inserted from the
engine bay side, except for a few which are inserted from the cockpit side
above the parcel shelf. Every time (6 times or so in 21 years) that I've done
the ghastly job, I swear that the next time I won't replace it until I've modified
the console with removable facia. But then I look at what's involved, chicken
out and reinstall it telling myself that it'll never need to come out again.
Idiot!
I recommend that you save yourself the frightful task of having to rub away scratches
from the inside of the windscreen by first making a thick-ish cardboard
sheet, shaped to fit inside the screen and tape it with masking tape to the surrounding
framework and/or upholstery. This is a top tip, believe me! Another
top tip is to remove the two control sticks from their sockets and then lay cushions
( I use my seat cushions ) into the well so that they provide at least
some protection for your back.
>From here on in, you're on your own. Each time that I've done it I slide myself
head-long down to the rudder pedals and lie face upwards. You'll probably need
first to have removed whatever you can which projects up from the central tunnel
and/or to have padded it to protect the under side of the console as you
slide it out. A good light is a must!
YOU WILL DEFINITELY NEED ANOTHER PAIR OF HANDS TO HELP YOU AT VARIOUS STAGES AND
I SUGGEST THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BELONG TO YOUR WIFE. BAD LANGUAGE WILL ALMOST
CERTAINLY FLOW PROFUSELY!
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483566#483566
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument Panel |
Hi Mike
Nope unfortunately mine is old school and the original moulded instrument panel
is still in place!
Kind Regards
Eoin
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> On 3 Oct 2018, at 19:14, Mike Christine Duane <DuaneFamly@aol.com> wrote:
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> The full console is moulded but most builders have two aluminum faceplates. One
for the instruments and the other for the radio stack. These each have mounting
screws they allow you to remove each panel for modifications.
> Is yours not built this way?
> Mike Duane
> Europa XS
> Las Vegas, NV
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 3, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Eoin Maguire <eoinmaguire@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi All
>>
>> This may sound like a daft question but Im trying to figure out how to access
the back of our instrument panel.
>>
>> I need to change out the asi which when I take our the four alan bolts holding
it in will fall back into the panel.....if Im right its a moulded panel so
those the entire panel need to come away to get at it and if so how?
>>
>> Kind Regards
>> Eoin
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument Panel |
Cheers Jonathan
Maybe the group might have a better solution to my problem so to save me whats
sounds like a horrendous job.
Long story short I bought the aircraft at the start of the year and have been working
through a few tech issues before getting the aircraft permitted in Ireland.
The aircraft has both a standard asi and dynon d10 neither of which registered
an airspeed during the flight. On stripping down of the route of the pitot/static
plumbing I found multiple kinks and badly made connections so replumbed from
pitot/static port under wing right into the cockpit. Under the dash the original
pipes connected into a 5 pin festo connector which Im assuming is used to
split to feeds to the dynon and standard asi.
Does anyone know a way of identifying how to test the asi or effectively identifying
the old pipes still in place to figure out which is the static and which
is the pitot without damaging the instruments ?
Kind Regards
Eoin
Sent from my iPhone
> On 3 Oct 2018, at 19:50, JonathanMilbank <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> Eoin, I hope you're small-built like me. This is just about the worst job that
I've ever had to do, including the removal of engine and gearbox from an original
little Morris Mini car. In fact it's worse than that because if your panel
doesn't have the removable facia described by Mike, then you're going to be
"in a world of pain"!
>
> The "binnacle" or console is attached to the firewall by screws inserted from
the engine bay side, except for a few which are inserted from the cockpit side
above the parcel shelf. Every time (6 times or so in 21 years) that I've done
the ghastly job, I swear that the next time I won't replace it until I've modified
the console with removable facia. But then I look at what's involved, chicken
out and reinstall it telling myself that it'll never need to come out again.
Idiot!
>
> I recommend that you save yourself the frightful task of having to rub away scratches
from the inside of the windscreen by first making a thick-ish cardboard
sheet, shaped to fit inside the screen and tape it with masking tape to the
surrounding framework and/or upholstery. This is a top tip, believe me! Another
top tip is to remove the two control sticks from their sockets and then lay
cushions ( I use my seat cushions ) into the well so that they provide at least
some protection for your back.
>
>> From here on in, you're on your own. Each time that I've done it I slide myself
head-long down to the rudder pedals and lie face upwards. You'll probably
need first to have removed whatever you can which projects up from the central
tunnel and/or to have padded it to protect the under side of the console as you
slide it out. A good light is a must!
>
> YOU WILL DEFINITELY NEED ANOTHER PAIR OF HANDS TO HELP YOU AT VARIOUS STAGES
AND I SUGGEST THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BELONG TO YOUR WIFE. BAD LANGUAGE WILL ALMOST
CERTAINLY FLOW PROFUSELY!
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483566#483566
>
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument Panel |
Testing of the ASI, as opposed to proper calibration, can be done by VERY gently
and carefully blowing into the pitot ( or hose leading from pitot to instrument
) then putting your tongue over the end to block it while somebody looks at
the instrument in the cockpit. Hopefully it won't show reducing airspeed until
the pitot is unblocked. An alternative is to use a syringe instead of your
mouth. If your Dynon ( I have one too ) is switched on as well, it will serve
as comparison for the analogue ASI. Mine are within 1 knot of each other.
What I suggested previously about removing the control sticks from their sockets
was incomplete. To save your back as far as possible, the sockets should be
unbolted from their forks and lain down on the cockpit floor.
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| Subject: | Re: Tailplane shaft installation |
Graeme,
Thanks for the feedback. I did make the front strut bigger (not as big as yours
but quite rigid it is) and found to help a lot. I still needed the struts aft
of the bulkhead so that when the top fin skin is cleoed to the bottom fuselage
the friction in the torque tube wouldn't increase.
I see you have some sort of cross member in the front of the bulkhead toward the
bottom, holding the rudder cable. I bet you that also stiffens the side skins
also.
Anyway, I am not implying all this is needed (except for the front strut) but in
my case the addition of the top caused enough deformation to cause slight binding
which I didn't want. The addition of the ribs or struts in my case was to
return the bottom aft fuselage section to the shape it had when I bonded the
bearings. Again, seems to work.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument Panel |
>>Does anyone know a way of identifying how to test the asi or effectively identifying
the old pipes still in place to figure out which is the static and which
is the pitot without damaging the instruments ?<<
I successfully used a low volume syringe connected to each line to check which
is which and consistance of deflection on more than one instrument.
Be careful and use a low volume syringe.
Alan
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> On 3 Oct 2018, at 21:27, Eoin Maguire <eoinmaguire@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know a way of identifying how to test the asi or effectively identifying
the old pipes still in place to figure out which is the static and which
is the pitot without damaging the instruments ?
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument Panel |
My advise would be to get a dremel and cut the panel out and replace with re
movable panels available from Europa!!!!
The three panels pull fwd for access to instruments etc leave sufficient ori
ginal panel round the edge to install fixed nuts.
Regards
Dave Park
> On 3 Oct 2018, at 21:27, Eoin Maguire <eoinmaguire@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Cheers Jonathan
>
> Maybe the group might have a better solution to my problem so to save me w
hat=99s sounds like a horrendous job.
>
> Long story short I bought the aircraft at the start of the year and have b
een working through a few tech issues before getting the aircraft permitted i
n Ireland.
>
> The aircraft has both a standard asi and dynon d10 neither of which regist
ered an airspeed during the flight. On stripping down of the route of the pi
tot/static plumbing I found multiple kinks and badly made connections so rep
lumbed from pitot/static port under wing right into the cockpit. Under the d
ash the original pipes connected into a 5 pin festo connector which I=99
m assuming is used to split to feeds to the dynon and standard asi.
>
> Does anyone know a way of identifying how to test the asi or effectively i
dentifying the old pipes still in place to figure out which is the static an
d which is the pitot without damaging the instruments ?
>
> Kind Regards
> Eoin
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 3 Oct 2018, at 19:50, JonathanMilbank <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
uk>
>>
>> Eoin, I hope you're small-built like me. This is just about the worst job
that I've ever had to do, including the removal of engine and gearbox from a
n original little Morris Mini car. In fact it's worse than that because if y
our panel doesn't have the removable facia described by Mike, then you're go
ing to be "in a world of pain"!
>>
>> The "binnacle" or console is attached to the firewall by screws inserted f
rom the engine bay side, except for a few which are inserted from the cockpi
t side above the parcel shelf. Every time (6 times or so in 21 years) that I
've done the ghastly job, I swear that the next time I won't replace it unti
l I've modified the console with removable facia. But then I look at what's i
nvolved, chicken out and reinstall it telling myself that it'll never need t
o come out again. Idiot!
>>
>> I recommend that you save yourself the frightful task of having to rub aw
ay scratches from the inside of the windscreen by first making a thick-ish c
ardboard sheet, shaped to fit inside the screen and tape it with masking tap
e to the surrounding framework and/or upholstery. This is a top tip, believe
me! Another top tip is to remove the two control sticks from their sockets a
nd then lay cushions ( I use my seat cushions ) into the well so that they p
rovide at least some protection for your back.
>>
>>> =46rom here on in, you're on your own. Each time that I've done it I sli
de myself head-long down to the rudder pedals and lie face upwards. You'll p
robably need first to have removed whatever you can which projects up from t
he central tunnel and/or to have padded it to protect the under side of the c
onsole as you slide it out. A good light is a must!
>>
>> YOU WILL DEFINITELY NEED ANOTHER PAIR OF HANDS TO HELP YOU AT VARIOUS STA
GES AND I SUGGEST THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BELONG TO YOUR WIFE. BAD LANGUAGE WILL
ALMOST CERTAINLY FLOW PROFUSELY!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483566#483566
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| Subject: | Re: Appeal to European Europa owners, aviation Garmin question |
Dear Roland, thanks so much, and my apologies for the slow reply, I have been on
wildlife survey in southwestern Uganda ( a place with no internet); sadly not
in my Europa but in a 51-year old Cessna 182!
Your information is very useful. I am quite surprised that none of your units
show large deviation from an Ordinance survey MSL datum, given that the deviation
of WGS84 spheroid from MSL is highest in northern Europe (about 70 m). I
suspect there might be a geoid correction in there somewhere, or possibly a barometric
correction (certainly for the Dakota).
If you get to a beach sometime, that would be interesting!
Thanks again ,
all best Richard
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