Europa-List Digest Mon 10/22/18

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Mon 10/22/18

Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 05:07 AM - Re: Old / new tailwheel (tennant)
     2. 07:47 AM - Re: Re: Old / new tailwheel (Gaham Singleton)
     3. 08:27 AM - AAE Dipole Antenna (n7188u)
     4. 09:26 AM - Re: AAE Dipole Antenna (Jan de Jong)
     5. 10:25 AM - Re: AAE Dipole Antenna (n7188u)
     6. 11:02 AM - Drilling Mono LG bolt heads (n7188u)
     7. 11:52 AM - Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads (Robert Borger)
     8. 12:05 PM - Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads (Bud Yerly)
     9. 02:32 PM - Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads (n7188u)
    10. 10:23 PM - Re: Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads (Bud Yerly)
 
 
 

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Time: 05:07:53 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Old / new tailwheel
From: "tennant" <barrington.tennant@gmail.com>      
      
      Hi Ruedi,
      
      Get rid of the old tail wheel. I did about 100 hrs on it and was scared of it.
      The later wheel is much better. I find the spring action perfect on take off as
      there is nearly no transition from ground to air.
      As to landing, I am told by passengers that I land with the tail wheel first, I
      never notice because I am concentrating on keeping it straight. If you do that
      there is no bounce!
      If you fit the new tail wheel see recent posts about mounting it.
      
      Barry
      
      --------
      Barry Tennant
      D-EHBT
      At EDLM  -  Germany
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483925#483925
      
      

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Time: 07:47:10 AM PST US
From: Gaham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Old / new tailwheel      
      
      Hi Ruedi
      One more thing, Dont get rid of the pushrod that moves the rudder. Connecting the
      rudder cables directly to the rudder puts too much load on the rudder hinges
      And the flange. Europa did take over my mod for this, the tailwheel is driven by
      cables from a bracket bolted to the bulkhead.
      It is possible to use the existing crank driving the old Classic tailwheel but
      using the mod will save weight.
      Graham
      
      > On 22 Oct 2018, at 13:07, tennant <barrington.tennant@gmail.com> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > Hi Ruedi,
      > 
      > Get rid of the old tail wheel. I did about 100 hrs on it and was scared of it.
      The later wheel is much better. I find the spring action perfect on take off
      as there is nearly no transition from ground to air.
      > As to landing, I am told by passengers that I land with the tail wheel first,
      I never notice because I am concentrating on keeping it straight. If you do that
      there is no bounce!
      > If you fit the new tail wheel see recent posts about mounting it.
      > 
      > Barry
      > 
      > --------
      > Barry Tennant
      > D-EHBT
      > At EDLM  -  Germany
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483925#483925
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      

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Time: 08:27:50 AM PST US
Subject: AAE Dipole Antenna
From: "n7188u" <chmgarb@gmail.com>      
      
      Dear forum members,
      
      So these last two weekends I got the top fuselage bonded, firewall back taped,
      mass balance column top bracket done and I just have to bond the mass balance
      top stop to be done with this stage off the fuselage assembly. It is now time
      to start the wings (I did fuselage before wings because of space constraints).
      
      The question I have for the group is which of the AAE dipole antennas is more appropriate
      for installation in the sternpost, the straight or 90 degree connector
      one? I bought a used Becker radio from Germany, will be getting the radio
      in a couple of weeks and would like to try it. Having the antenna will help. I
      could of course build one with the ferrites and copper tape but figure that for
      the price might as well get something properly tuned and be over with.
      
      BTW, is it better to install the antenna forward or aft the sternpost? I read a
      posting from someone that installed outside (aft) but it required cutting a square
      hole on the post and I am not to crazy about that idea (weakening?)
      
      Regards,
      Chris
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483935#483935
      
      

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Time: 09:26:53 AM PST US
Subject: Re: AAE Dipole Antenna
From: Jan de Jong <jan_de_jong@casema.nl>      
      
      IMHO, if you want it "properly tuned" you have to do it yourself. The 
      purchased one will not be, but will be good enough.
      
      Cheers,
      Jan de Jong
      (getting back to building, I promise).
      
      On 10/22/2018 5:27 PM, n7188u wrote:
      >
      > Dear forum members,
      >
      > So these last two weekends I got the top fuselage bonded, firewall back taped,
      mass balance column top bracket done and I just have to bond the mass balance
      top stop to be done with this stage off the fuselage assembly. It is now time
      to start the wings (I did fuselage before wings because of space constraints).
      >
      > The question I have for the group is which of the AAE dipole antennas is more
      appropriate for installation in the sternpost, the straight or 90 degree connector
      one? I bought a used Becker radio from Germany, will be getting the radio
      in a couple of weeks and would like to try it. Having the antenna will help.
      I could of course build one with the ferrites and copper tape but figure that
      for the price might as well get something properly tuned and be over with.
      >
      > BTW, is it better to install the antenna forward or aft the sternpost? I read
      a posting from someone that installed outside (aft) but it required cutting a
      square hole on the post and I am not to crazy about that idea (weakening?)
      >
      > Regards,
      > Chris
      >
      
      

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Time: 10:25:48 AM PST US
Subject: Re: AAE Dipole Antenna
From: "n7188u" <chmgarb@gmail.com>      
      
      I understand nothing is perfect but the AAE but you're not supposed to mess with
      the AAE antennas. they come tuned from factory. My understanding.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483941#483941
      
      

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Time: 11:02:01 AM PST US
Subject: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads
From: "n7188u" <chmgarb@gmail.com>      
      
      Dear forum members,
      
      My mono landing gear swing arm is done and I wanted to install it in the airplane.
      Looking at the manual I see the part about drilling the bolt heads. Yikes!
      That is something I really don't look forward to doing, with images in my brain
      of breaking tiny drill bits and having to order more bolts, etc. 
      
      Does anyone remember if that was a pain to do, with a multitude of broken and stuck
      drill bits and the like? or are the bolts actually soft and not a big deal
      to drill?
      
      Not to gripe but I really wonder why couldn't Europa supply pre-drilled bolts with
      the kits  [Evil or Very Mad] 
      
      Chris
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483942#483942
      
      

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Time: 11:52:21 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads
From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>      
      
      Chris,
      
      This can be done with care if you wish.  
      
      It can be a PITA with little broken bits and unusable bolts.
      
      Unless you feel you really need to learn how to drill bolt heads, order the drilled
      head version from Aircraft Spruce or other vendor.
      
      Not "Evil or Very Mad," just cheep.
      
      Same with antennas.  Unless you feel the need to learn how to build and tune an
      antenna just buy one.  Quicker, easier and, when all is said and done, probably
      less expensive.
      
      Just my 2, YMMV.
      
      Blue skies & tailwinds,
      Bob Borger
      Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (130 hrs).
      Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP, Hercules Prop.
      3705 Lynchburg Dr.
      Corinth, TX  76208-5331
      Cel: 817-992-1117
      rlborger@mac.com
      
      On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:01 PM, n7188u <chmgarb@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      
      Dear forum members,
      
      My mono landing gear swing arm is done and I wanted to install it in the airplane.
      Looking at the manual I see the part about drilling the bolt heads. Yikes!
      That is something I really don't look forward to doing, with images in my brain
      of breaking tiny drill bits and having to order more bolts, etc. 
      
      Does anyone remember if that was a pain to do, with a multitude of broken and stuck
      drill bits and the like? or are the bolts actually soft and not a big deal
      to drill?
      
      Not to gripe but I really wonder why couldn't Europa supply pre-drilled bolts with
      the kits  [Evil or Very Mad] 
      
      Chris
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483942#483942
      
      

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Time: 12:05:02 PM PST US
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Subject: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads      
      Chris,
      
      Buy the drilled head AN bolts and save the aggravation.
      
      
      AAE antennas:  I have installed many.  I put them in the vertical fin and h
      ave put them on the stern post as well as just behind the baggage bay.  All
       have worked well.
      
      Don=92t cut the AAE or anything, they work right out of the box.
      
      
      Technique, if putting on the aft side of the stern post, and cutting a hole
       into the post for the coil, make sure the rudder clears.
      
      
      Personally I put them on the inboard skin of the port side of the fin and s
      imply cut a notch in the ribs to clear the antenna.   Run the coax through 
      a couple of grommets and leave it alone after glue up.   Since the antenna 
      doesn=92t fail, but anything can, a simple access hole in the fin can provi
      de access or I just will cut a hole (premarked for the client if necessary)
       between the mid and top rib and reach in and unplug the coax connector if 
      for some reason my BNC connector failed.
      
      
      Regards,
      
      Bud Yerly
      
      Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
      
      
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      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matr
      onics.com> on behalf of n7188u <chmgarb@gmail.com>
      Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 2:01:33 PM
      Subject: Europa-List: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads
      
      
      Dear forum members,
      
      My mono landing gear swing arm is done and I wanted to install it in the ai
      rplane. Looking at the manual I see the part about drilling the bolt heads.
       Yikes! That is something I really don't look forward to doing, with images
       in my brain of breaking tiny drill bits and having to order more bolts, et
      c.
      
      Does anyone remember if that was a pain to do, with a multitude of broken a
      nd stuck drill bits and the like? or are the bolts actually soft and not a 
      big deal to drill?
      
      Not to gripe but I really wonder why couldn't Europa supply pre-drilled bol
      ts with the kits  [Evil or Very Mad]
      
      Chris
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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Time: 02:32:44 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads
From: "n7188u" <chmgarb@gmail.com>      
      
      Thanks for the Reply guys.
      
      First, let me assure you I will buy the bolts if I find them. Those bolts are 5/16-18
      and 2 1/4 inch long. I didn't find that size at ASC. The only drilled head
      bolts I found are AN75A-21 or MS20074-05-21. I will look more for them to
      see if I can find the four I need.
      
      Regarding the antenna, I will follow your advice Bud and bond it to the fin. i
      assume you use the right angle connector version, is that right?
      
      And don't worry, I'm not cutting it. AAE clearly states not to mess with their
      antenna :)
      
      Chris
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483955#483955
      
      

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Time: 10:23:54 PM PST US
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads      
      Yes on the antenna.
      
      Bud Yerly
      Custom Flight Creations
      
      ________________________________
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matr
      onics.com> on behalf of n7188u <chmgarb@gmail.com>
      Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 2:32:24 PM
      Subject: Europa-List: Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads
      
      
      Thanks for the Reply guys.
      
      First, let me assure you I will buy the bolts if I find them. Those bolts a
      re 5/16-18 and 2 1/4 inch long. I didn't find that size at ASC. The only dr
      illed head bolts I found are AN75A-21 or MS20074-05-21. I will look more fo
      r them to see if I can find the four I need.
      
      Regarding the antenna, I will follow your advice Bud and bond it to the fin
      . i assume you use the right angle connector version, is that right?
      
      And don't worry, I'm not cutting it. AAE clearly states not to mess with th
      eir antenna :)
      
      Chris
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.m
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