---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/22/18: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:07 AM - Re: Old / new tailwheel (tennant) 2. 07:47 AM - Re: Re: Old / new tailwheel (Gaham Singleton) 3. 08:27 AM - AAE Dipole Antenna (n7188u) 4. 09:26 AM - Re: AAE Dipole Antenna (Jan de Jong) 5. 10:25 AM - Re: AAE Dipole Antenna (n7188u) 6. 11:02 AM - Drilling Mono LG bolt heads (n7188u) 7. 11:52 AM - Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads (Robert Borger) 8. 12:05 PM - Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads (Bud Yerly) 9. 02:32 PM - Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads (n7188u) 10. 10:23 PM - Re: Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads (Bud Yerly) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:53 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Old / new tailwheel From: "tennant" Hi Ruedi, Get rid of the old tail wheel. I did about 100 hrs on it and was scared of it. The later wheel is much better. I find the spring action perfect on take off as there is nearly no transition from ground to air. As to landing, I am told by passengers that I land with the tail wheel first, I never notice because I am concentrating on keeping it straight. If you do that there is no bounce! If you fit the new tail wheel see recent posts about mounting it. Barry -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483925#483925 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:10 AM PST US From: Gaham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Old / new tailwheel Hi Ruedi One more thing, Dont get rid of the pushrod that moves the rudder. Connecting the rudder cables directly to the rudder puts too much load on the rudder hinges And the flange. Europa did take over my mod for this, the tailwheel is driven by cables from a bracket bolted to the bulkhead. It is possible to use the existing crank driving the old Classic tailwheel but using the mod will save weight. Graham > On 22 Oct 2018, at 13:07, tennant wrote: > > > Hi Ruedi, > > Get rid of the old tail wheel. I did about 100 hrs on it and was scared of it. The later wheel is much better. I find the spring action perfect on take off as there is nearly no transition from ground to air. > As to landing, I am told by passengers that I land with the tail wheel first, I never notice because I am concentrating on keeping it straight. If you do that there is no bounce! > If you fit the new tail wheel see recent posts about mounting it. > > Barry > > -------- > Barry Tennant > D-EHBT > At EDLM - Germany > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483925#483925 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:50 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: AAE Dipole Antenna From: "n7188u" Dear forum members, So these last two weekends I got the top fuselage bonded, firewall back taped, mass balance column top bracket done and I just have to bond the mass balance top stop to be done with this stage off the fuselage assembly. It is now time to start the wings (I did fuselage before wings because of space constraints). The question I have for the group is which of the AAE dipole antennas is more appropriate for installation in the sternpost, the straight or 90 degree connector one? I bought a used Becker radio from Germany, will be getting the radio in a couple of weeks and would like to try it. Having the antenna will help. I could of course build one with the ferrites and copper tape but figure that for the price might as well get something properly tuned and be over with. BTW, is it better to install the antenna forward or aft the sternpost? I read a posting from someone that installed outside (aft) but it required cutting a square hole on the post and I am not to crazy about that idea (weakening?) Regards, Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483935#483935 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:53 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: AAE Dipole Antenna From: Jan de Jong IMHO, if you want it "properly tuned" you have to do it yourself. The purchased one will not be, but will be good enough. Cheers, Jan de Jong (getting back to building, I promise). On 10/22/2018 5:27 PM, n7188u wrote: > > Dear forum members, > > So these last two weekends I got the top fuselage bonded, firewall back taped, mass balance column top bracket done and I just have to bond the mass balance top stop to be done with this stage off the fuselage assembly. It is now time to start the wings (I did fuselage before wings because of space constraints). > > The question I have for the group is which of the AAE dipole antennas is more appropriate for installation in the sternpost, the straight or 90 degree connector one? I bought a used Becker radio from Germany, will be getting the radio in a couple of weeks and would like to try it. Having the antenna will help. I could of course build one with the ferrites and copper tape but figure that for the price might as well get something properly tuned and be over with. > > BTW, is it better to install the antenna forward or aft the sternpost? I read a posting from someone that installed outside (aft) but it required cutting a square hole on the post and I am not to crazy about that idea (weakening?) > > Regards, > Chris > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:25:48 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: AAE Dipole Antenna From: "n7188u" I understand nothing is perfect but the AAE but you're not supposed to mess with the AAE antennas. they come tuned from factory. My understanding. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483941#483941 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:02:01 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads From: "n7188u" Dear forum members, My mono landing gear swing arm is done and I wanted to install it in the airplane. Looking at the manual I see the part about drilling the bolt heads. Yikes! That is something I really don't look forward to doing, with images in my brain of breaking tiny drill bits and having to order more bolts, etc. Does anyone remember if that was a pain to do, with a multitude of broken and stuck drill bits and the like? or are the bolts actually soft and not a big deal to drill? Not to gripe but I really wonder why couldn't Europa supply pre-drilled bolts with the kits [Evil or Very Mad] Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483942#483942 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads From: Robert Borger Chris, This can be done with care if you wish. It can be a PITA with little broken bits and unusable bolts. Unless you feel you really need to learn how to drill bolt heads, order the drilled head version from Aircraft Spruce or other vendor. Not "Evil or Very Mad," just cheep. Same with antennas. Unless you feel the need to learn how to build and tune an antenna just buy one. Quicker, easier and, when all is said and done, probably less expensive. Just my 2, YMMV. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (130 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP, Hercules Prop. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:01 PM, n7188u wrote: Dear forum members, My mono landing gear swing arm is done and I wanted to install it in the airplane. Looking at the manual I see the part about drilling the bolt heads. Yikes! That is something I really don't look forward to doing, with images in my brain of breaking tiny drill bits and having to order more bolts, etc. Does anyone remember if that was a pain to do, with a multitude of broken and stuck drill bits and the like? or are the bolts actually soft and not a big deal to drill? Not to gripe but I really wonder why couldn't Europa supply pre-drilled bolts with the kits [Evil or Very Mad] Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483942#483942 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:02 PM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads Chris, Buy the drilled head AN bolts and save the aggravation. AAE antennas: I have installed many. I put them in the vertical fin and h ave put them on the stern post as well as just behind the baggage bay. All have worked well. Don=92t cut the AAE or anything, they work right out of the box. Technique, if putting on the aft side of the stern post, and cutting a hole into the post for the coil, make sure the rudder clears. Personally I put them on the inboard skin of the port side of the fin and s imply cut a notch in the ribs to clear the antenna. Run the coax through a couple of grommets and leave it alone after glue up. Since the antenna doesn=92t fail, but anything can, a simple access hole in the fin can provi de access or I just will cut a hole (premarked for the client if necessary) between the mid and top rib and reach in and unplug the coax connector if for some reason my BNC connector failed. Regards, Bud Yerly Custom Flight Creations, Inc. Sent from Mail for Window s 10 ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of n7188u Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 2:01:33 PM Subject: Europa-List: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads Dear forum members, My mono landing gear swing arm is done and I wanted to install it in the ai rplane. Looking at the manual I see the part about drilling the bolt heads. Yikes! That is something I really don't look forward to doing, with images in my brain of breaking tiny drill bits and having to order more bolts, et c. Does anyone remember if that was a pain to do, with a multitude of broken a nd stuck drill bits and the like? or are the bolts actually soft and not a big deal to drill? Not to gripe but I really wonder why couldn't Europa supply pre-drilled bol ts with the kits [Evil or Very Mad] Chris Read this topic online here: https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.m atronics.com%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fp%3D483942%23483942&data=02%7C01%7C%7C 7641e756ad884f670f3f08d638490493%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0 %7C636758283585284851&sdata=c6rq0%2FbTOX%2FfuYAVT3tNfz5XpktbyA5vb9WVt Ow7j9g%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&data=02%7C01%7C%7C764 1e756ad884f670f3f08d638490493%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C 636758283585284851&sdata=npC3wa0JOketSa6mTAATkhPsnmn87G0SvIWJfmnkSuc% 3D&reserved=0 F%2Fforums.matronics.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7641e756ad884f670f3f08d638 490493%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636758283585284851& sdata=Vquih6U7ET4KXifD883X6R0vw0oOX9MbfW3csx8Oo3I%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwiki.matronics.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7641e756ad884f670f3f08d63849 0493%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636758283585284851&sd ata=2HSQpc%2FqiRIIWztQEeWGW7LsfH3nxzhoQE19w7hEogE%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2Fcontribution&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7641e756ad884f 670f3f08d638490493%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63675828358 5284851&sdata=yzkAsarc8TR8r7XLkmMT9uRntNkbVTCcwQS%2FhyV4SE8%3D&re served=0 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:44 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads From: "n7188u" Thanks for the Reply guys. First, let me assure you I will buy the bolts if I find them. Those bolts are 5/16-18 and 2 1/4 inch long. I didn't find that size at ASC. The only drilled head bolts I found are AN75A-21 or MS20074-05-21. I will look more for them to see if I can find the four I need. Regarding the antenna, I will follow your advice Bud and bond it to the fin. i assume you use the right angle connector version, is that right? And don't worry, I'm not cutting it. AAE clearly states not to mess with their antenna :) Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=483955#483955 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:23:54 PM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads Yes on the antenna. Bud Yerly Custom Flight Creations ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of n7188u Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 2:32:24 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Drilling Mono LG bolt heads Thanks for the Reply guys. First, let me assure you I will buy the bolts if I find them. Those bolts a re 5/16-18 and 2 1/4 inch long. I didn't find that size at ASC. The only dr illed head bolts I found are AN75A-21 or MS20074-05-21. I will look more fo r them to see if I can find the four I need. Regarding the antenna, I will follow your advice Bud and bond it to the fin . i assume you use the right angle connector version, is that right? And don't worry, I'm not cutting it. AAE clearly states not to mess with th eir antenna :) Chris Read this topic online here: https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.m atronics.com%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fp%3D483955%23483955&data=02%7C01%7C%7C dd3eaacdb49446f00f3508d6386651f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0 %7C636758409439034643&sdata=lten6nXv%2BQqn6zBIoFBC%2BczHmMsZLcIyM%2Fg Qu1%2BbEII%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cdd3 eaacdb49446f00f3508d6386651f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C 636758409439034643&sdata=Y5e7ULnDHB4B4pXVW3QgqXclka5J%2BItF%2Fol8%2FS eGXxY%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fforums.matronics.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cdd3eaacdb49446f00f3508d638 6651f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636758409439034643& sdata=KObI9IG%2FI%2FTifcpCEYC0vyG67yMxSERXrPlv6a2lR5Q%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwiki.matronics.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cdd3eaacdb49446f00f3508d63866 51f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636758409439034643&sd ata=jKSLdjE11vA69o0mTpm6GPyoDCDw1vAr8vlLLa1cGbU%3D&reserved=0 F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2Fcontribution&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cdd3eaacdb49446 f00f3508d6386651f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63675840943 9034643&sdata=DhzoJsTFJJHRT96V8GW1khHEIUhXylJDrfsIx%2FOvTL8%3D&re served=0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.